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How much detail is too much


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#41
shihawk

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I feel troubled looking at those pictures . maybe i should quit this hobby right now , cause that is just scary ????!!!!!!!!!!!


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I feel troubled looking at those pictures . maybe i should quit this hobby right now , cause that is just scary ????!!!!!!!!!!!


Now I know what you are up to,cmon isn't this inspirational? Lol

Edited by zoly99sask, 16 October 2015 - 01:59 PM.

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Holy crap.  Spend the time to look at that Royal Caroline.  It has crazy stuff like this:

 

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Incredible amount of detail on these models.  This website is a must see.

 

http://www.shipmodell.com/index_files/0ROYAL_CAROLINE2.html


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One relevant factor to the "less perfectionist" modeler is that too much detail can extend hugely the build time and slow the progress rate.

Some find great satisfaction in building one small  small piece of work  after another to great standards.

But others think - as I believe was said on here - " I am building a vessel not an assemblage of bits"

Better a completed model with a moderate level of detail than an abandoned one.

 

I have done every level myself - when the kit first came out  I built a couple of Flys in very short time indeed - and they look OK  to a non modeller I think but not to a modeller! The speed was partly because I " built the box" and added no detail .

On the other  hand my record is a bit of carving just over a cm long on Snake which  carried me through most of a winter.

At the moment I have spent weeks and weeks trying to get the deck planking patterns for a build to my satisfaction and practicing nibbing - no one will notice but its satisfying to do.

 

One point I do feel though is that rigging of both vessels and guns is very very very hard to get to look right and the more detail you attempt the harder it gets -  somehow - at least to me - detail on the  hull comes easier.


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Speaking of details

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Edited by zoly99sask, 16 October 2015 - 03:06 PM.

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I wonder what sieze of magnifiers he is wearing ????


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zoly99sask

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Look at this  the seat ,looks like  it has been used for years

 

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http://www.shipmodel...ELL_PANDORA.htm


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Speaking of details

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This person's day job is probably working with something on the molecular level.  This may seem enormous to him! :D


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Yep,this is molecular ship model building at cellular level.

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Have you seen Doris's Royal Caroline?   We have quite a few builders here doing that level of work. 


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zoly99sask

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Have you seen Doris's Royal Caroline? We have quite a few builders here doing that level of work.


Can you get the link for me please?
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       Completed :        Armed Virginia Sloop

       Completed:         Flyer

       Current Build:     Santa Maria - Mantua

          Current build:     America's Cup 1930 J Class Enterprise - Amati

 

        My blog: Historic ship models (not completely updated, yet)


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Here ya go.

 

Royal Caroline by Doris.


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Thank you for the link zoly99sask that is truly impressive, it makes one humble to think how far some of us have yet to go to active the ultimate - but very good to see just what can be done with skill and time when you put your mind to it.

 

It is a very impressive web site in general and well worth a detailed look at all the models, there is much to be learnt there.


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                                               As regards the amount of detail,i think a small amount of neatly done detail is far better

 

                                              than a model with a lot of detail badly done.


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Janet , I think you have summed up the conclusion i have come to , if you can,t do it to look right ,don,t do it .


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Adding detail is a matter of preference and how much time you want spend on it/with proper skill,just for an exemple tke a look at this Hungarian modeller what quality and detail has been built into his HMY Caroline.Realt worth time to check all the pictures!!

http://www.shipmodel...AL_CAROLINE.htm

And the Pandora was built for almost 20 years,20000 work hours!!



http://www.shipmodel...ELL_PANDORA.htm

 

 

I have seen some modelling skills in the past few years - but I've just had the privilage of spending 30 minutes with my jaw constantly hitting my desk as I surveyed the photographs of the Pandora build - and I've only just looked at a small part.

 

Should all models be built to that level of detail?

 

Well I personally would absolutely love to have even 1% of the skills to be able to come anywhere near this level of detail - and that would be when using a kit!!

 

And then I realise that this is a complete Scratch build - I'm afraid I don't have long enough to live to learn these skills.

 

Meantime, I return to my attempt at building Pickle to the very best of my abilities so that when she is finished I can look at her with pride of a job well done........


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zoly99sask, on 15 Oct 2015 - 9:52 PM, said:snapback.png

Adding detail is a matter of preference and how much time you want spend on it/with proper skill,just for an exemple tke a look at this Hungarian modeller what quality and detail has been built into his HMY Caroline.Realt worth time to check all the pictures!!

http://www.shipmodel...AL_CAROLINE.htm

And the Pandora was built for almost 20 years,20000 work hours!!



http://www.shipmodel...ELL_PANDORA.htm

  Thanks for the links,.....the work found here is SCARY GOOD!!! ... just goes to show that there is no limit to how much detail  can go into a build, scratch or kit build.

 

JP


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I found a 1:48 scale cello and violin that I just must get into my HMS Surprise. I like detail though I would not be a bolt counter about it. I understand the work that goes into a craft such as ours and would enjoy the results regardless of the detail. The elegance of simplicity is just as attractive as the super detailed.


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I got my first model when I was about 5 years of age. I put it together over and over again using scotch tape. Loved that 1st model.

Here I am now at 62 years of age, and I've advanced to actually using glue, but I still love it! :rolleyes:  When I get tired of it (building models), I put it down and do something else for a while. I always come back to it later when I feel like it. And it always keeps me happy, no matter how much attention to detail I place in it. But that's just me.


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On small details I generally apply a scale 'rule'

If the part scales down to a size I don't think I am capable of making then I drop it.

I don't like the approach where a part is made within a persons capability but when scaled up is actually twice real size.

i.e. If a stanchion scales up the be 5" dia. then it will never look right if it was a 2" dia. metal post.


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