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Keel Drawing - first drawing for Trition Full-Build And Access Request


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#81
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I am a model sailboat enthusiasts from China, hoping to join the project, and everyone can learn communication. But how do I start my own journey it? :huh:



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Please read the first post inside this topic


Ours is a life of constant reruns. We're always circling back to where we'd we started, then starting all over again. Even if we don't run extra laps that day, we surely will come back for more of the same another day soon. - Joe Henderson


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Hi there, for the POB version, is the keel the same as this plan? As I haven't stated the build and don't have access to the downloads I wanted to check before any work or wood was obtained.

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1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed
1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed
1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed
1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed
1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed

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VOC Batavia 1629
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Tallshiptragic...welcome to the build


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I'm new to scratch building. I downloaded the plan and plan on doing this in 1/4 scale. The one thing that I am not sure of is the thickness of the wood for the keel. Can someone help me with that??

 

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The plan has all the info you need. The 'wide' section shows the overal length and the height and to the left of the 'wide' section marked keel is a cross section (with two notched high up on the left and right). This shows you the width as well.

 

With those two diagrams you have all the measurements you need.
 

Here the blue line is length the green height and the red the width

 

Attached File  keel.png   3.36KB   0 downloads


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I looked at the drawing again and all that I can find are the side view of the keel, no end view like you included in your post. Is the side view in your post for the 1/4 scale?

 

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Starting Projects Triton full build and creating a build log.
Triton sectional build with build log.

Future builds Cutty Sark, Sea Witch, Virginia pilot boat 1805, Sultana Colonial Schooner 1767.

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I looked at the drawing again and all that I can find are the side view of the keel, no end view like you included in your post. Is the side view in your post for the 1/4 scale?

 

Michael

 

Michael,

 

You are correct that there is no end view on the PDF in the original post, which means there is no way to see that rabbet (which seems odd, because it's sort of important I think), but if you look at that sheet there are two views.  At the top there is the side view, and then at the bottom there are three items - The Keelson, the Keel, and the False Keel (Items 1, 4, and 5) in a Plan View.  Plan View means as viewed from above, so you can get your thickness dimension from that part of the drawing.



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yes I down loaded the 1/4 scale pdf. That's what the title said


Current build Mare Nostrum
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Starting Projects Triton full build and creating a build log.
Triton sectional build with build log.

Future builds Cutty Sark, Sea Witch, Virginia pilot boat 1805, Sultana Colonial Schooner 1767.

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Question?

Is this still open? I am thinking to make a new build. I only have Dutch ships now. And I like an other ship also. And looked at the Triton for many times.

Problem is, time. I think it will take lots of time in between the updates for me. I am a slow builder because I need to work also.


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Yes though you have to build the keel and start a build log to get access to the full plans.

 

On the subject of the keel image my screenshot was from the cross section plans (which can be cross referenced). If doing a full build you should be aware that the rabbett will move and the thickness will decrease as it approaches bow and stern so a single cross section of the keel in the full plans could cause more damage than help.


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Ours is a life of constant reruns. We're always circling back to where we'd we started, then starting all over again. Even if we don't run extra laps that day, we surely will come back for more of the same another day soon. - Joe Henderson


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Hello there,
 
is this interesting project even in 2016 still open to new members?

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It is as others have just started on it.  You might as well join the party.  :)


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Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0

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May I get a wood list please, I would like to figure out the wood I can use and get

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There is no wood list as the wood choice is entirely up to the builder. The best approach is to look at the other logs and see a wood combination that you like then copy it (if they mention what it is) and if they don't then add a post to an active log asking..


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Thx for quick reply, I just wanted to know how much and the sizes is needed. I understand the the types of wood to use, I just don't know how much wood I need to order. šŸ˜Ž
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Pete pinned one of (original MSW) builders build logs in the cross section thread here

 

http://modelshipworl...on-timber-list/

 

the pdf listed all he used.


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Ours is a life of constant reruns. We're always circling back to where we'd we started, then starting all over again. Even if we don't run extra laps that day, we surely will come back for more of the same another day soon. - Joe Henderson


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I am assuming this build is still going? I want to draw the keel up in solidworks first as virtual since I have never built a model of this scale before only plank on bulkhead types.

 

Want to work on it virtual as I go so I understand how to build it before i start with wood and glue. need to see what size the complete model will be also as I want to make it radio control so I may want to enlarge it some


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