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#21
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what the heck just tossing out ideas so lets shoot at it, i will take the first shot at my own idea.

An after thought, this very site is in fact a collection of information. Just use search and get what you need.

 

TRUE but i see it as standing at the edge of a huge forest. I am looking for a Sycamore tree, i know they grow in the forest but to wander around trying to find it is quite the task. If there was a data base on the forest i can zero in on the tree because now i know Sycamore trees grow in the low lands close to rivers and water sources.

so is it worth the time and effort to build a quick reference data base?

 

maybe how to carve

 

how to create a set of modeling plans


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A group on an intro to carving would be great......that subject might be a little advanced and intimidating...but maybe say this.   As it is applicable to the carved work in bas relief that is common on many period ship transoms and trail boards.   

 

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very nice idea Raymond

i would do that

Thanks Daves,

I figured it would be a great small/side project that would give the modeler new skills in this hobby. Jack's Oseberg Viking Ship is a great looking model and I think this type of project would be a great supplemental model/piece to add along side of her.

 
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Group projects for entire ships or boats are problematic for all the reasons presented here.  Having said that, I built the longboat because it was a group build and put my other projects on hold during the building process.  I would not have done that if the anticipated build time was months or years, rather than weeks.  I like the idea of a group build of a specific part of a ship, whether this is a sail, capstan, wheel or stove.  I definitely would participate in a group for carving.


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I would love to know how to carve. A group build for carving something simple would be nice. I might participate if there were enough people to help and teach me. I also like the idea of a group build of part of a ship. That way, it wouldn't take much time away from my ship. Maybe a group build on a certain part of rigging, like a mast from the deck on up?
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I am working on creating a simple group/class for carving a very simple design.  Stay tuned.  I will be presenting it to my local club first to see how it goes and then I will present here.

 

More details will follow shortly.  This is a short term project I think many will enjoy.


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Carving is great idea and so is sailmaking. But there is one subject that I would absolutely sign up for on a group build, and that is making figures for ship models. I've tried making figures before, I have a couple books that talk about it, but I haven't been very successful at it. 

 

Would love to be able to make figures in 1/8" scale, 1/4" scale, and even 1" scale.

 

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I also would definitely join a group build on making figures. 


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Hi.
The carving idea would be splendid idea.
It's one of my failings in model ship building.
Something basic to carve and advice on tools and timber choices.
Differently up for this idea.

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Looks like the topic has cooled off a bit so let throw some coal on the fire. With the summer coming to a close now is a good time to consider it. A carving "build' holds some interest for me as it would stretch my skill. One for just a deck section with some masts and rigging would do well also.

 

I agree with TLAVINE mentioned earlier that large projects are problematic for previous reasons mentioned and a smaller 'build' might be a better fit.  A small build project sounds like a shorter term obligation than a long term one. It is certainly a better fit into my current life.

 

So with fall and winter ( northern hemisphere ) model building season beginning any other thoughts or interest out there? 


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Chuck, if you can please follow up about the carving thing. I for one would like to join and learn.

I think there are enough replies above to get something started, but it would really be good to have one or more person(s) who can 'teach' and/or recommend some literature and tools. I am sure there are individuals here and now who can.


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Your ears must have been burning.  I am hoping to make a whole bunch of carving blanks.....package them up.....and send them to Kurt.  Hopefully he can add them to the website so you guys can buy them.  I didnt write anything like a "how to carve" but after having the workshop I dont think we will need that.  I will just start an area where folks can share their experiences while trying to carve the blanks.  I will post a few words about what we did in the workshop and how some of the guys chose to approach it.  Then we can just talk about our own attempts once you guys get them.

 

Here is what they will look like.  They are very simple...Not very large....typical ship model-like decorations....they basically are the blanks for my barge prototype.  They will be laser cut from 1/32" thick boxwood.

 

As far as tools,  I used primarily a #11 blade although I also used a flexcut mini chisel forsome aspects.   The "v" shaped kind.  I am sure everyone will have there own preferences.  

 

But its a few weeks away....at least.

 

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Looking forward to it, Chuck. I'm also interested and have some carving experience.


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Chuck,

 

    Will we get the carving blanks thru SYREN or thru NRG?


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Through the NRG....I am mailing Kurt 20 sets tomorrow morning.   He will add the line item to the NRG store.    But as they run low on stock I will cut more and send them.

 

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Count me in!


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I'm in for the learning and the wisdom.  There's many here who are masters but finding the knowledge in one area is tough.  Then there's the pucker factor... FEAR.   One needs to get one's feet wet sometime... so.. diving in.


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In my case, doing this in my 'office' (which is inside, instead of the 'work shop', my garage) gives me a good excuse to the admiral who continues to ask 'when are you going to finish your cross section?'

Now that fall is here and winter around the corner, my office is a great place to cut some small chips and not too much dust.

I just placed the order for the boxwood pieces and will start with one of the crowns.


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I would like to suggest a group build log for making Sails for Models. I think it would be great to have a lot of sail making projects available for perusal all under one heading. 

I would like to second this suggestion. Making sails can be very challenging and interesting. 

It requires some new skills (like carving wood was new to me) and perhaps the use of a sewing machine (my wife's and no harm done).

But it also involves selecting material and all the details of how to finish the edges, etc.

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So how do we get started?


Edited by Modeler12, 28 November 2016 - 02:46 AM.

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I too am interested in this one, I need to make sails for two sailboats and some hands on experience would be good, it is an area that I have been avoiding for a while now.

 

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