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The 7-Provinciën 1665 by YankeeD - Scale 1:50 - according to drawings by Mr. O. Blom (First wooden scratch ship build)


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As I said in my "new members introduction post" some time ago, I hesitated to start a second build log here, since I have an extensive build log on a Dutch forum.

As this Dutch forum is basically/mainly an RC flying forum and over the last half-year/year the historical ship build sub-forum has gotten quieter by the day and most of the ship building persons that are still active there, are also active here on MSW.

So now I have decided to also start a build log here on MSW. It might not be an day-to-day active log as on the Dutch forum but I will see how it evolves.

The reason is mostly because this forum is much more active and has a much broader reach.

In this first post I will give a very short survey from start to the status of today.

Why I build something

As of January 2014 I have become ‘pensionado’ by lucky circumstances! So a lot of hours spare time. Since my younger years I have always had a hobby whereby my hands played an important part.

Plastic motor models, aircraft models where my favourites back then. I switched to electronics (my profession as an engineer) and built my own loudspeakers (woodworkingJ) and HIFI equipment for many years.

 

Now why a ship and particularly why this ship?

My family line has a long history (back to the 1700’s) of what we call “binnenschippers”, persons that hauled merchandise/goods by ship from the North sea ports land inwards. My grandfather was the last in line who trade down the Rhine as far as Koblenz.

So I started reading books and visiting forums. Now as a child I visited the “Batavia Warf” quite often with my parents and later on with my own kids I have witnessed the start (and death) of the 7-Provinciën.

Also a mysterious ship where little was known so it leaves a lot to the builder to decide and come up with. A choice was easily made.

 

My goals!

First of all: I have fun and love building and working with the wood!!

It’s not my intention at all to build the best looking or the most historical correct ship! Just the fun of building it is my main and first goal.

Being busy and figuring out how I can get something done. Getting acquainted with new skills I need and to perform certain tasks. That’s what I like about it. It’s my first build both in wood and as a ship, so I will get to learn and master many things.

 

I have chosen to follow the drawings made by Otte Blom. Not because they are the best but because they appealed to me the most.

The whole build might not be completed, I might stop at admiralty level. I am not so much into knitting and roping but who knows….

I started the build around summer 2014. Sometimes I stop for a while, working on other projects.

It’s mainly build from European oak, (apart from parts that were in those days also in pine (grenen) or other materials were used).

 

How far I am:

The pictures speak for itself I would say. I tried to take some representing pics from the start up to now.

 

Have fun building….. Hans.

 

This is from around November 2014. (I lost earlier pictures:( )

 

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My first method of framing. I changed methods in a later stage.

 

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I started working them in lots. A much better way to keep the correct lining of the hull.

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I finalised the hull around January 2016.

 

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The reason for taking that long is that when I got tired of the treadmill of framing I stopped for weeks or worked on other parts, like the windows below.

 

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I decided that after closing the hull it was time to get the shape roughly in order.

It took a lot of sanding and on some points I needed to correct the lining by adding wood or replacing parts.

As I changed methods of framing the bow part was slightly of scale (it ran a little too wide) but enough sanding was possible.

 

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Next steps deck clamps

 

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After the deckclamps I build the 2 main decks

 

 

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And here is the status per today:

 

I am working on the gunports now.

 

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Hello Hans,

 

I liked your introduction to yourself and to this build. 

You had a nice start and all is well under way. The scale 1:50 will give quite a large ship, in my mind I can see a sideboard with a model in wall-filling formate. wish you much fun with this wonderful scratch build..... will the model be under full rigged sail ?

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Hello Hans,

 

I liked your introduction to yourself and to this build. 

You had a nice start and all is well under way. The scale 1:50 will give quite a large ship, in my mind I can see a sideboard with a model in wall-filling formate. wish you much fun with this wonderful scratch build..... will the model be under full rigged sail ?

 

Nils

 

Hi Nils, thank you. The answer to your question is in the opening post ;) :

 

"The whole build might not be completed, I might stop at admiralty level. I am not so much into knitting and roping but who knows…."

 

Regards Hans.

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Thanks Jan! Indeed nearly a meter from bow to stern (Not included the beakhead).

 

I will be planking the hull both sides as my mood and thinking stands now.

 

Rgds Hans.

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awesome looking hull Hans....the internal shots are really nice  :)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Lovely work, Hans.  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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  • 2 weeks later...

Just a short update. I finished the correcting of the bow as its height was not correct.

The bow was build using a different method than what I used after I came to the 'grootspant'.

Also the holes for the anchor ropes had to be moved.

 

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I finished one side all the gunports for the orlop and main deck.

 

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Its hard to find the right english terms I now use the translation of Ab Hovings book but it does not contain all the words, eg like luizenplecht??

 

H.

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Jan, I have/use the English translation of  "A  J  Hoving - Nicolaes Witsen and Shipbuilding in the Dutch Golden Age 2012"

It has a glossary in the back that I use.

 

And to be honest I have to get used to doing this in english.... :piratetongueor4: .

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Hans,

 

With the pictures and explanations, you're doing fine.   Words don't always translate well and Google Translate makes a big mess of nautical terms.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Impressive work Hans, a real tribute to one of the most famous ships in the Dutch Navy. 

Don't fret too much about the English nomenclature for all the parts of the ship.  I'm also still learning but my excuse is that I am an airplane guy ;):rolleyes:

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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  • 4 weeks later...

I thought it was time for another update. I intend to keep this log updated by several weeks up to once a month. My dutch log will be updated more frequently though, about daily as I make progress.

 

So, for the past weeks I have finished all the gunports of the lower deck and the upper deck. There were quite soem ports that needed rework after the intial cut out or where I sanded to hard in my enthousiasm :angry: .

A simple tool for checking that ports were level at both sides. After this tedious work I wanted a change of work so I started on the anchor 'betting'.

 

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I do have a problem with the lid and the holes for the anchor cables. The drawings clearly show 3 holes whereas I think only 2 cables went down in the hul??? I leave it for now it will be sorted in due time.

 

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I will now started work on the remaining parts of the lower deck, like gratings and down stairs. After that the deck planking I think and after that the insie hull planking up to the upper deck.

 

Will be continued.

 

Rgds Hans

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  • 3 weeks later...

Well time for another update. I continued the work on the parts on the orlop deck. Some deckbeams have been fitted permanently and I will continue to do this as I finish hatches and gratings etc..

The positions of the 2 front masts have been fixed now and the "vissingen"  have been glued in place.

From there on I will continue building all the parts on that deck and also start the deckplanking, using 2mm thick oak 9-10mm width.

 

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very satisfied with the main knight!

 

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I was not satisfied with the first try of a stair. The steps protruded at the front.

And the sidebeams were too thick. I adapted the mould and thickness and now I think they look good.

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Well just before we are of on hols (we are going after the main season, nice and quiet:)) a last update.

 

As said the deckplanking and more details of the deck added.

 

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This is were we stand today.

Here I have chosen for the waterway of the orlop for 14mm broad oak. Its a little too much (it should have been 12 according to the scale. The first parts has been fitted now I will finish this waterway first in whole to the rear and then work the rest of the 10mm dekplancking to the waterway.

 

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See you all in a couple of weeks :D:P:rolleyes:

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Oak is such a nice wood to work with..........with that size of a hip,  it's gorgeous!  ;)     very ncely done! 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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  • 3 weeks later...

Well after a perfect holiday, nicely tanned and rested. As for the pic on the 7P (MMDD) thanks but I can see some differences with the plans I use and I do not intend (but who knows what can happen) to build a full model. I wonder who/what build that is?? Is there a build log?

 

Now a short update from the past 2 days.

I had some choices to be made on the planking widths.

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I said I setteld for 14mm waterstreaks. (12 should be according to plans and scale but that would not fit the other planks well.

Here the raw waterstreaks

 

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And here the closed half of the orlop deck.

 

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Now for the coming weeks closing the other half and then....??? the inside hull planking up to the main deck I think.

I am still doubting when to start the outside hull planking. I guess after I finish the inside hull planks up to the main deck.

 

Rgds Hans

 

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