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Schooner Polotsk by Mike Y - Master Korabel - 1:72, 1777


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Mike Y

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I am going to build this kit with my daughter. She was really insisting on building her own wooden ship, like daddy's. Seems to even be ready that it will take a year. Will see, will see, she seems to be really interested  :)

 

The kit is a 1777 schooner in 1:72 scale made by russian manufacturer Master Korabel (translated as "Master Shipwright").

Laser cut planking, nice wood, seems to be very well thought through!

Includes few PE sheets, very nice castings (anchors and cannons), all fittings have a good quality. The laser cutting is top notch and plywood is high quality as well.

Best part - the price is $95!

Despite having english text on the box, all instructions are in russian. But maybe photo manual would be enough?

Here is the link to the manual, it answers most of questions about this kit construction: http://forum.master-...com/mk0302f.pdf

Some build logs for the ones who are curious:

http://forum.modelsw...topic13151.html

http://serikoffshipm...m/forum/6-576-1

 

Got a few questions "where to buy the kit". My friend bought it in Russia and gave it to me, it is a cheapest option. 

I also found it on ebay, the seller has a 100% rating and looks like a producer of the kit. So maybe buying it directly from the producer via ebay is better.

ebay.co.uk: http://www.ebay.co.u...l-/112015347120

ebay.com: http://www.ebay.com/...l-/112015347120

It is a "plus" version, so a bit more expensive. The kit I bought is a regular one - no boat and the blocks are simpler.

 

The main goal is to enjoy the process together, learn the handcraft and generally have fun. In the end, I would be super proud of her if she will have enough stamina to finish the hull and plank it. That would be quite an achievement for 6 years old.

I will try to show that kit in details, please pardon for the build quality - I am letting her to do as much as possible, not focusing too much on quality and accuracy. Step by step :)


Edited by Mike Y, 16 November 2016 - 09:19 AM.

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The kit: 

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Super detailed plans:

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Fine parts:

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Castings:

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Laser cut parts:

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Laser cut finish level of planking and transom and other parts:

Foto 2016-11-11 12 48 24.jpg

 

Building jig:

Foto 2016-11-11 12 49 32.jpg


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Really impressed with the kit quality!

The laser cutting is super accurate, the kerf is minimal:

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All bevels are pre-marked, so you just follow the lines:

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The ply is good, very uniform, no defects, middle layers are not falling apart:

Foto 2016-11-12 20 43 44.jpg

 

Super impressive for the $95 kit. It is the quality you would expect from the $400-$500 range.

Frames are inserted into clear slots in the base board, that ensure perfect alignment.

Notches in the frames and keel are a bit too tight, so all notches and all parts require some filing to fit. That was a bit unexpected, and too tedious for my daughter (so far), so I spend some time filing.. Meh, boring task :)

 

But there is a steady progress :)

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End result of the first two modelling sessions:

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The "building board" is, apparently, a permanent part of the hull (lower deck), the upper parts would be installed on top of it. Interesting idea!


Edited by Mike Y, 13 November 2016 - 07:44 PM.

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This so cool, Mike.  I look forward to watching this build.   Interesting kit and for the price, it looks like a great deal.  I'm seeing more kits with pre-spiled planking...  


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Yes, pre-spiled planking for beginner kits is a must. I do not have the hard statistics, but the feeling is that a lot of beginners stop the build during the planking.

First part - assembling the skeleton, bulkheads and keel - is quite simple and takes few evenings. Then - decks, that are also fairly easy. And then most of kits suggest to plank the hull with a set of thin and straight planks, which is dramatically more different comparing with all the previous phases of the build.

So I really hope that pre-spiled planking will make this kit available for kids. With some simplifications, for sure. Will see.


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What a great thing to do with your daughter Mike! Kit looks great - especially for the price. :) I'm pulling up a chair for this one. Don't forget to get your daughter to make some posts herself so we can all say hello and give her some encouragement.
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Pulling up a chair also Mike.  This is great !


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Right now I'm just saying hello to a very enterprising little girl!  What a marvellous idea you had, to build a model ship just like your dad!
It looks as though you've started well, but be careful not to do it better than he does!  It might hurt his feelings!


Mike, I wish I'd got into model shipbuilding when my eldest daughter was your daughter's age.  She was always interested in the hobbies I had, and she loved to take part.  She would certainly have loved the idea of building a model ship.  But she's adult now (probably quite a bit older than you, in fact!) and she pursues her own hobbies.

So far, it seems you've found the perfect kit for your daughter to try out her burgeoning skills.  I hope she perseveres.  This will be a most fascinating build log, and I'm looking forward to seeing how she progresses.


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Looks like a great build for your daughter, Mike. I'll follow along, too. Like Grant says, have her chime in from time to time...
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Thanks everybody for the encouragement! Yes, we are talking about what the online communities are, what the build log is, and she is going to make the photos (and maybe a comment) for the next post :) It is good to know that our community is really the best when it comes to kindness and sharing!

Edited by Mike Y, 13 November 2016 - 09:57 PM.

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Pulling up a chair for this one. You will both have memories that will be looked back on. Every time she looks at the build she will remember the time you spent together.

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I believe we had a couple of the MK longboat kits posted here a year or so ago. As I recall, those kits were also of high quality and went together very nicely.


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Mike,

I am so proud of you and your daughter. This is priceless.

And she has already done a great progress.

I reserved my seat for this build log too.


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I got a few questions "where to buy the kit". My friend bought it in Russia and gave it to me, it is a cheapest option. 

I also found it on ebay, the seller has a 100% rating and looks like a producer of the kit. So maybe buying it directly from the producer via ebay is better.

 

ebay.co.uk: http://www.ebay.co.u...l-/112015347120

ebay.com: http://www.ebay.com/...l-/112015347120

It is a "plus" version (with a boat kit included, and a better block quality), so a bit more expensive. The kit I bought is a regular one - no boat and the blocks are simpler.


Edited by Mike Y, 17 November 2016 - 08:05 PM.

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Proper photo update is coming soon, but in a meanwhile - a little bit about the kit.

It sure has a lot of notches and parts connected by inserting them into that notches. 

The problem is that all that connections are too tight. Nothing could be inserted without filing it first. Using the brute force can lead to cracks and broken parts, and I hate doing it this way. Fine fitting connections + wood glue are better than brute force :)

 

So before she can build the next step - I spend some time with a file, knife and chisel, making sure everything fits. Frankly, that is quite tedious and boring. As you can see, the kit has hell lot of notches! And every single one should be enlarged with a file.

 

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Edited by Mike Y, 19 November 2016 - 05:33 PM.

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Hola Mike:

 

There are a couple of things that really amaze me, that your little daughter is interested in building wood boat models (I am sure she will be an excellent engineer in the future !!) and second, the quality of the model. I had not seen kits with this quality for 95.00 and also where the hull planks came pre-cut. This greatly facilitates things, especially for beginners.

 

Please congratulate your daughter for her effort.

 

Saludos, Karl


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Thanks Karl! Yes, I am also quite surprised with her passion to building stuff, and trying to feed this passion by showing her different techniques, materials, doing it together, encouraging, etc. No matter what career path she will choose, an engineering mindset will never hurt!  :)

 

This time she also dictated her first post in the build log. I just translated it to english with minimal syntax corrections:

 

I am building this ship with my dad. He helps me, but I build it myself. I am a Daughter Daria.

We are making a ship body (hull). I am gluing the parts:

Foto 2016-11-15 18 27 14.jpg

 

This is the center of the ship, I insert the parts here:

Foto 2016-11-15 18 41 31.jpg

 

And remove an extra glue with a stick:

Foto 2016-11-15 18 29 15.jpg

 

We used clamps to help the glue stick parts together:

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I also made some wooden things with a file. These things are now inside the ship.

Foto 2016-11-19 20 44 55.jpg

 

Here we glued the deck. It was hard to fit all that parts at the same time!

Foto 2016-11-19 20 50 22.jpg

 

Our ship will be big! With a long masts and big sails. We will ship some things, food, paintings and curtains on it, as well as toys and doll stuff. 


Edited by Mike Y, 19 November 2016 - 08:46 PM.

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Impressive work, Daria.  You're doing a fine job of building this ship.  


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Well done, Daria (and Dad)! That is going to be very impressive. I'm looking forward to your progress.


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Excellent work Daria! Thank you for sharing your build with us. I think pretty soon you'll be helping Dad with his model too!
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