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JustBlowinInTheWind

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Looking for experiences with hide glue for deck planking? I've been using CA glue to lay the deck planks but you get one chance, and one chance only. This looks like it may provide a little time to move things around?


Edited by JustBlowinInTheWind, 12 December 2016 - 10:43 PM.

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druxey

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Why would you not use PVA (white) glue?


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Worldway

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I'm finding that carpenters glue works much better than CA glue. I don't have experience with other glues but the glue I'm using seems to be superior to what I've tried.


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mtaylor

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Brian,

 

Here's a starting post... http://modelshipworl...model-building/


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Mark

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probablynot

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Derek, when you say 'carpenter's glue', do you mean the brown stuff that comes in brittle slabs and has to be boiled up in one of those double containers with hot glue in the inside one and boiling water in the outside one?


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Brian

Current project: - Constructo "Silhouet" 1893 (Dutch barge) http://modelshipworl...constructo-160/

Some previous builds - HMS Bounty Launch [Model Shipways kit] http://modelshipworl...s-116-smallish/

Corel's Half Moon (lightly 'bashed')  http://modelshipworl...scale-150-wood/

A 1:12 scratch-build of 'Anastasia', my old sailing kayak from back in the 1940s. http://modelshipworl...by-probablynot-a-18-re-build-of-my-1949-kayak/

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probablynot

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Come to think of it, JBITW, is that brown stuff what you mean by 'hide glue'?


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Brian

Current project: - Constructo "Silhouet" 1893 (Dutch barge) http://modelshipworl...constructo-160/

Some previous builds - HMS Bounty Launch [Model Shipways kit] http://modelshipworl...s-116-smallish/

Corel's Half Moon (lightly 'bashed')  http://modelshipworl...scale-150-wood/

A 1:12 scratch-build of 'Anastasia', my old sailing kayak from back in the 1940s. http://modelshipworl...by-probablynot-a-18-re-build-of-my-1949-kayak/

Next project: - I'm thinking.   Might be Victory Models' HMS Fly.  A pretty ship - miles of rigging ...


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mtaylor

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Brian,

 

Carpenter's glue is usually the PVA that's yellow in the bottle.    Hide glue is brown flakes and needs the double boiler setup like you described.


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Mark

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Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0

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Triton Cross-Section
USS Constellaton (kit bashed to 1854 Sloop of War (Gallery) Build Log
Wasa (Gallery)


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probablynot

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Ah, see? Shows my age, doesn't it? I remember my dad using the brown-stuff glue in the double pot! Me, when I first got into all this, I was using something called Cascamite, which I seem t remember as a white powder that had to be mixed with water.
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Brian

Current project: - Constructo "Silhouet" 1893 (Dutch barge) http://modelshipworl...constructo-160/

Some previous builds - HMS Bounty Launch [Model Shipways kit] http://modelshipworl...s-116-smallish/

Corel's Half Moon (lightly 'bashed')  http://modelshipworl...scale-150-wood/

A 1:12 scratch-build of 'Anastasia', my old sailing kayak from back in the 1940s. http://modelshipworl...by-probablynot-a-18-re-build-of-my-1949-kayak/

Next project: - I'm thinking.   Might be Victory Models' HMS Fly.  A pretty ship - miles of rigging ...


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Regarding how well hide glue works, I have hide glue residue on my work bench which has been there  since about the 1920's.    It ain't coming off unless I chisel it and I have no plans to do so.  This bench belonged to my grandfather who was a life long cabinet maker and the bench has stayed in the family.   He used hide glue for many many years.  But, he switched to carpenters glue, unless he was doing restorations of  antiques that originally were built with hide glue.    He taught me a lot and swore that the carpenters glue was as good or better and soooooo much easier. 

Allan 


Edited by allanyed, 17 December 2016 - 10:41 AM.

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