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Rayjack6

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Looking for a picture of upper shrowd connections on a skipjack. Book I have is not clear Ray
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thibaultron

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Are you building from a kit or scratch? Which Skipjack? I may be able to help.


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I'm using Steve Rogers The Skipjack for a scratchbuild. It looks like the srouds go threw a block and back down to deck.
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The Model Shipways instruction booklet for the skipjack Willie Bennett shows all of the rigging details, and can be downloaded free at the following link:

 

http://www.modelexpo...p?ITEMNO=MS2032


Edited by Mahuna, 03 January 2017 - 03:22 PM.

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Thank you very much those instructions will work.
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I built the H A Parks from plans, I think in the Smithsonian collection, and they were looped over the mast in the same fashion.  I photographed many of these still working skipjacks all over the Eastern Shore.  Ben Lankford did a nice job on this instruction booklet.  Let me know if I can provide any further help.


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Kate Cory Scratch Built

 

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H A Parks Skipjack Scratch Built

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Diligence Model Shipways Kit

 


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Rayjack6

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Yes I found out. I reserched images on Google and found some mast. They actually have a bump out on each side to catch them. Thanks for the help.
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Most boats had a swell for the shrouds and stays like you'd see on a t'gallant mast for instance, but some had cleats or wedges instead.

The shrouds tend to be looped around and clamped with a couple of wire clamps, but further back they were seized with wire.  One newer boat I saw had a sort of spider band on the mast and the shrouds had thimbled eyes shackled to it.


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Going to use the wedge type I think.
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thibaultron

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At the time skipjacks were built, they would have used wire cable standing rigging.


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Kevin from Hampton Roads

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Ron,

I do not believe that wire rope was originally used for standing rigging on skipjacks. Most Skipjacks were built on the cheap. I believe wire rope was not routinely used on skipjacks until the 1930s. (Unfortunately I cannot remember where I read this. I may be wrong.) Wire rope would have been an extravagance in 1890 - 1900.


Edited by Kevin from Hampton Roads, 08 January 2017 - 11:24 PM.

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thibaultron

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I have a Skipjack book around here, I'll look it up.


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Kevin from Hampton Roads

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Ron,

Please let me know what you find?


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thibaultron

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Certainly. I'll have to find the book, its buried, but I know the general location.


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I'll find the more definitive book in a couple days.

 

From "American Ship Models and How To Build Them"; It says that wire rope replaced hemp for standing rigging about 1860. Their instructions state that 3/4" wire rope was used on the skipjack Carrie Price for the shrouds, and 1/2" for the balance of the standing rigging. Hemp was used for the running rigging.


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I looked for about an hour in some of my books.  I have a few books on the Chesapeake Bay and their watercraft but could not find anything specific detailing the shrouds.  Robert H. Burgess wrote a really good book entitled Chesapeake Sailing Craft which has a lot of good photos of working Skipjacks.  I used some of these books when I was building mine back in the l970's.  

 

I did, however, find a reference to the standing rigging on the bugeye another boat tied to the Chespeake Bay and very much like the Skipjack in M. V. Brewington's Chesapeake Bay Log Canoes and Bugeyes.  This states that the bugeyes were originally rigged throughout with hemp but steel wire replaced this very quickly.  I have a feeling the Skipjacks were probably steel wire from the beginning.  Hope this helps.  I have other sources but they are at my other home.  This is the best I can do tonight.

 

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Current Build:

Kate Cory Scratch Built

 

Previous Builds:

Benjamin W. Latham Scratch Built

H A Parks Skipjack Scratch Built

Charles W. Morgan Model Shipways Kit

Rattlesnake Model Shipways Kit

Diligence Model Shipways Kit

 


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I found my other Skipjack book, but they do not say anything about the rigging materials. It is a nice history of the boats, with general details of construction, but no real modelers type info.

 

Did talk somewhat about some of the tricks they used to hide illegal features. Some areas restricted cargo volume, so they would put in false bulkheads or move a bulkhead to make the cabin larger, then remove or move them after the inspection.


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Thanks for all the info from all of you.
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Ray

Have you gone to St. Michaels or Deal Island to speak with the ship yard folks?    WAY back when I was building a skipjack for a friend I traveled there to take photos and they let me take piece of an original pine keel that was being replaced.  I used some the wood for some of the model build.  If nothing else, it may help to contact the Last Skipjacks Project people to make contact with someone that is truly in the know.   You can Google their website for contact information. The Chesapeake Maritime Museum folks may also have someone to help you.

 

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Not yet I live in Maine and Maryland is about 300 miles.
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