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What is the most EPIC kit available???


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Rossi46

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Hey folks,

Im currently mid way through building the HMS Surprise and would like to start researching for a future build. I was hoping to hear your opinions on what is the ultimate kit out there in terms of detail, quality of wood and parts, instructions and sheer presence.

What are some of the very highly regarded kits out there... Royal william, SOS, Victory etc... Or any large scale models of smaller boats. Im looking for something very stunning or with a really cool story behind it. Or a high quality large scale viking boat. Any guidance would be appreciated.

Edited by Rossi46, 09 January 2017 - 04:23 PM.

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mtaylor

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I don't think or know of any kit I'd describe as "epic" as by nature, all kits have issues, be it wood quality, instructions or sometimes just outright fiction.   However, any kit can be bashed and modified to produce the look and degree of authenticity you wish including details.

 

You'd have to define "stunning" or "story" as those vary by the beholder.  


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One gent took a stock kit of a destroyer (USS Kidd, I believe) and turned it into a multiple blue-winning model by adding features and detail.  That's pretty epic.


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I agree with what's been said so far. If you want something truly epic, start with a kit you really like and then super-detail it. In order to make a buck, kit manufacturers have to cut some corners. You find out where the corners were cut, then un-cut them, so to speak, and voila -- epic model. For some good examples of this, check out any of the builds done by dubz; he's quite good at it.


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I agree with everybody. Many of the kits out there are 'stunning' or 'beautiful' or 'majestic' or whatever ..... but they are just kits. To turn a kit into an 'epic' you will certainly need to add extra detail. My advice to you is to seek out a kit that has extensive plans that go beyond what is supplied in the kit material and do your research.

 

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Look around at the various builds that are on here. There are some huge ships with a lot of details and ornamental carvings or there are smaller ships with less decoration but, due to the design of the hull, rigging and colors it can be even more beautiful to behold. As said, this is mostly in the eye of the beholder as to what qualifies as "epic". As to a kit being "epic", it has already been said that that won't happen. However, any kit can be bashed into an epic model with enough patience and determination of the modeler. 

 

As with all projects I say, find the ship that you think is cool and sparks that passionate interest in. Then however you choose to build it, be it kit or scratch, go above and beyond what it called int eh instructions and push your skill past your comfort zone and into the next level. Then you will have an epic model.


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Rossi46

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Im so new to this im not sure how to source wood for a scratch build. Do you buy sheets and cut your own planks, buy prefabricated planks in the size you need. I ask because i have a dremel, file and a knife and thats about it lol
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Well.... yes.  You can buy billets, sheets, strips, etc.  


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Mark

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With your current tool selection I would recommend buying the wood from one of our sponsor sites that specialize in wood for ship building. They are on the front page, lower right. You can get milled lumber in any dimensions you would want as well as sheet material. This would be preferred as you do not have the tools to cut and mill rough cut lumber that could be obtained at a lumber yard.

 

Starting a ship from a pile of lumber is a hard thing to do. I would start trying to modify kits and see what types of materials and tools you may want or need before diving into scratch building. This will familiarize yourself more with ship building and also allow a slower accumulation of tools which will make scratch building easier.


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Current Builds - La Couronne - Corel &  Le Soleil Royal - Sergal

Completed - Wood - Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo

                      Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark.

Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch.

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I mean if by epic you mean covered in ornamentation cannons rigging and carvings then the answer is Sovereign of the Seas or Wasa. Both could probably cause a mental breakdown while building but what a way to go! :D


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I have a mental breakdown just LOOKING at them.


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Rossi,

 

    Where do you live?  It sounds like you are looking to venture into the dark side; heavy kit bashing at (dare I say) scratch building.  If there is a model club near you, I would recommending getting with them as well as interacting here.  Sometimes face-to-face discussions and demos can be invaluable.


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Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:
Continental Sloop PROVIDENCE
Continental Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (1/2" Scale Model Shipways Kit)
Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans)


On Hold:
Colonial Pinnace VIRGINIA (1607)(scratch)
18th Century Longboat (Model Expo Kit)
 
Completed:
Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch
1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans)


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Rossi46

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I live in windsor ontario.  I'm leaning towards kit bashing, but could easily see myself ending up scratch building and really getting into carving.  I had no idea what the possibilities were until I started digging into the posts on this site.  But I don't want to get ahead of myself with the scratch build stuff, which is why I'm looking at kits that get you on your way.  I'm looking more and more at smaller boats done in larger scales ie. greater than 1:40, to get that authentic look.  so much to sift through its overwhelming.  My dad just got the Chaperon, and that looks like a blast to build. 


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check out the Amerigo Vespucci kit by Panart. at 49 inches it's big, it's detailed.... pretty epic. 


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Water World and Heaven's Gate were epic movies, epic failures that is.  There's a few kits that fit that version of "epic."


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When the Amati 1:64 Victory comes out that might be described as epic.


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As others have said, "epic" is in the eye of the builder. I am just finishing a model of the lobster smack Emma C. Berry. This is not huge. It has no intricate detail or challenging rigging. But it is a beautiful model. And as a plank on frame it is very challenging to build it to scale and to a nice finish. Maybe i was lucky, but the kit i got from Model Shipways had great wood and plenty of it. I found it quite enjoyable to build. Did a bit of bashing. My motto is slow and easy; so it's taken me a couple of years to complete. I'm quite proud of the result.

Walt


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Patience, patience; slow and easy makes the model.


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CharlieZardoz

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Also that HMS Warrior kit by Billing Boats like 60" looks pretty epic.
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Usually the next one, but for a serious answer, Caldercraft's Imara has plenty of scope for detailing and some whizz-bang RC features.


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When the Amati 1:64 Victory comes out that might be described as epic.

I've heard from a few people about this kit, noone seems clear when it is getting released, but its on the to do list.  I think I'll be able to finish the surprise and then do one more before tackling that beast.  I'm leaning towards the billings boats Oseberg Boat.  Not as detailed and appointed, but I am really interested in its story and have always loved the lines of the old viking boats.  Plus a smaller project will put me in the right frame of mind for the monster Victory:)


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