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#21
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Well the Phantom arrived, first off hats off to modelexpo, it was on back order I made the order on the 20th and it was here on the 27th. Did what everyone said and did a parts check. the only thing missing was two 1/8" double blocks I emailed model and they are sending the parts


i have some pics, im not sure but it seems like there is a lot of trimming for the corners, I must say as for a beginner i think it will be challenging but wow the parts are small. well i will start in on it soon i cant wait I will deffinatley be asking for help. thanks guys
Just an fyi for anyone who has not ordered this model, if you use the rain13 code it only comes with 4 paint colors not 6 the tools are cheaper tools but they will make good for having extra tools around. I dont remember if i asked this, how do i know if i have a #11 exacto blade, i have a bunch but none have an 11 on it.

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The number 11 blade is the very basic triangular shaped blade with the point on the end.

 

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HI,

 

A bunch of Phantom builds are going on at this time and some in the  completed kit gallery section. Plenty of photos and logs to visit for sure. Though small, you will have fun building her. Be patient and take your time.

 

Wish you well as you build along.

 

Cheers,

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you guys have been great, I am about to start my build but I am a little confused, I put the bow templet on the boat and the templete sticks up about a quater inch higher than the top rail of the bow. From what I can tell if I do any sanding it will make that height increase. what i am asking is, is the templet correct and when i start shaping will it line up see photo.

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The "R" should align with the underside of the rail, about where you have it.  You will be installing a cap rail around the bulwarks (see step 6/Figure 13 in the instructions).

 

As you shape the hull, it will start to fit better along the stem and the keel.  take your time, start about template 5 and slowly fair the hull in each direction from there fore and aft. 


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I agree with Wayne: The "R" is for the underside of the rail.

 

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So my work place is basically in my garage when im not using the island is it ok to leave everything in the garage when im not working on it since the garage is not ac controlled

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That is a tough call. I wouid definitely secure all your materials and tools etc. Maybe in a box or container. Any waterbased paints or glues should be okay.

 

My workshop is also uninsulated space but it is under lock and key. I have a wall unit AC for the really bad days in the summer. You might want to consider a box fan or something similar to help cut the heat and humidity.

 

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Good deal thanks

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so i am working on the trimming of the hul and also the parts on the deck that need to be trimmed to spec as you can see they didnt do a real good job around the mid deck area like i have seen on other Phantom models  on others there is a clean line of where this lip is on mine they kind of rolled it together with the bottom deck so i had to measure and make sure i get the lip in the right area. my question is on Chucks build instructions he says this board that goes there is 1.5mmx3mm can someone tell me which is height and width.

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as you can see here on hopefulls pic the mid deck line is a clean cut

 

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Ah, another member of the phantom club! Welcome Gulf!    I used the phantom as  my first build and it was a joy pretty much from beginning to end!!!

 

That mid-deck step comes in all of the kits just like yours did.  You just need to carefully square it off and clean it up some. You will find that a good deal of your beginning time will be on shaping and working the hull.  There are many ways you can do that step. Some people had great luck with carving bits.  I did mine with the #11 and just sliced vertically then horizontally until I got it squared up rough then sanded it smooth.

 

To answer your other question: I will double check when I get home but I believe it was 1.5 wide, 3 high.

 

Good luck and Enjoy it!

 

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Skerry

thanks i think the wood that came with it is that size maybe a little trimming will need to be done



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Yeah, there is always a little trimming to be done :D

 

I will confirm that measurement when I get home.  I will also dig up my phantom pics from my old build log and re-post them here (I thought I had done that when the site first came back up but I can't seem to find it - so will chalk it up to really wanting to and thus thinking I did :huh: )


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Current Builds

 

Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF

MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB
Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June)

USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull

Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

 

On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently

 

USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB

18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF

Hunter - Mamoli (Missing parts:  My Upcomming Scratch n Bash Project)

La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB

 

Completed Builds

 

Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull

 

The Wish List (Someday - hopefully)

 

Model Shipways - Rattlesnake

OcCre - La Candelaria

Model Shipways - U.S.S Constitution

Model Shipways - Niagara

Artesania Latina - La Pinta

Something Scratchbuilt - not sure what yet, will cross that bridge when I get the nerve! :huh:

 


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Just double checked the one on my desk and it is wider than tall.  so 1H 3W =)


-Adam

 

Current Builds

 

Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF

MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB
Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June)

USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull

Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

 

On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently

 

USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB

18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF

Hunter - Mamoli (Missing parts:  My Upcomming Scratch n Bash Project)

La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB

 

Completed Builds

 

Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull

 

The Wish List (Someday - hopefully)

 

Model Shipways - Rattlesnake

OcCre - La Candelaria

Model Shipways - U.S.S Constitution

Model Shipways - Niagara

Artesania Latina - La Pinta

Something Scratchbuilt - not sure what yet, will cross that bridge when I get the nerve! :huh:

 


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so i am having trouble finding pictures or any history of the phantom, i have tried different ways to search and have not come up with much does anyone know what shipyard this vessel was build in



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She was built in East Boston in 1868, designed by Dennison J. Lawler. That is on the kit's box. This jives with what has been written about her by Chapelle and others over the years. Lawler was both a designer and builder and he was based in Boston.

 

As for photos, I am not sure how many there would be given the early time period. However, the plans should be fairly accurate.

 

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