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H.M.S. Triton Cross Section by Long9Ron - Scale 1:48


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#41
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Hello Ron.I have been playing with stains for the toothpicks.I had no luck with stains.So I thought that a tree contains a lot of water.Why not use water based dyes.I made up a very strong solution of" TEA".Four tea bags to a small amount of boiling water.I then added the toothpicks and covered them with the tea bags.I let them stand till they sunk to the bottom,water logged.Took about six hours.I reheated the water several times in the microwave.Let dry(add sugar and milk makes a tasty snack :P  :P )I think the wood stores have wood dyes and there is Rit Dyes if you need a darker color.I have not tried these.

Larry

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Joss, Daniel and Larry

 

Great ideas. I will have to put them all into my Things to Know Database. I'm not sure yet which way I will go. More testing to do. I also heard that a wood filler in the holes may be an idea.

 

Larry - What brand of tea did you use. Earl Gray?  :D    

 

Thanks


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Ron,It was orange pekoe and pekoe cut black tea.I'm brewing up a batch now.250 toothpick halves.My hull will be off white so these work perfect for me.  Larry

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Larry

 

Thanks for the tea idea. I will have a cup while I think about it.  :)

 

I mounted my frames today and decided to do the treenails on them using plain old wooden toothpicks.

 

Frames mounted.

 

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Treenails installed by freehand. Not to good. But, they won't be visible later. 

 

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Sanded down and ready to mount the Keelson.

 

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More pictures to come after I do a little more work. 

 

 


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That is good progress. My only observation is to make sure that the slot for the keelson is lined up well before you install the keelson.

 

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I have soaked the wooden toothpicks in Dark Walnut stain for a week now and just looked at them today. It seems that the stain has soaked right into the core of the wood.

 

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I might end up soaking a bunch and use them in my build. Haven't decided which way to go as yet. Natural or dark?

 

While the toothpicks were soaking I worked on my frames. Which in my opinion are not very good, but I will be using them the way they are. You can see where I filled in the gaps with a sawdust-glue mixture and some other sloppy areas. But, overall I think they will work and I think I will not have any of the frames showing in the end product.

 

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I have also cut some lumber for the inside planking and have my beams cut. I will be soaking the beams and bending them soon. After I do some inner planking and treenails of course

 

That's it for now.   :)  


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The walnut on the toothpicks turned out very nice.  It is not to light or to dark (just enough contrast to know it is there but not draw away from the rest.

 

And your frames look really nice. :dancetl6:   Hope mine turn out half this good.  Keep up the good work and looking forward to more.


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Ron,

 

I like the toothpik which has nearly the same cilor as your frames. After finishing the hull they will be light darker then the planking.

For my HMS Fly I use Pear for the frameing and also pear for all treenails in this part of the build


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I'm with Christian.. the ligher one.  But it's your build and you're the Captain.  Go with what your heart says.


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On treenails it depends very much on the sort of effect you are after. If you are extremely accurate with your treenail placement then a very dark colour can be very striking. If you are not that accurate then the very dark colour just draws the eyes to any mis-placed nails. If this is the case then lighter is better (less is more..)

 

So look at what you like visually, effect on others and potentially placement accuracy.

 

Coming along nicely though.

 

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Your frame line up is looking good and like the way that you kept the false keel long so you could screw it down tight.

 

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Thank you all for your kind words and advice.

 

I think that I will go with the Natural color of the toothpicks. If my frames were of a darker color wood then I might go for the stained walnut, but my wood is very light, so I think the best one for now is the light one. As Joss said, they may stick out as a sore thumb if I don't line them up correctly and being my first time at treenails that would most likely happen. Maybe when I get a little more experienced at it I will use a darker treenails.  

 

Have to pick up some drill bits before doing any treenails.  


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Good choice, Can't wait to see more :dancetl6:


Triton Cross Section 1:32

 

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Great idea on tea bags to stain


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Great idea on tea bags to stain

 

I can't take the credit for that great idea. It was Larry's idea for the tea bag staining.


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Good Luck with the drill and fill.

 

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yes i understand Larry's idea, and bty great looking build

I can't take the credit for that great idea. It was Larry's idea for the tea bag staining.


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Long9Ron: Thanks again for your help tonight.

 

I will spend more time in your thread but what I've seen so far the cross section is looking great. I also see there are many good suggestions from those following along. I'm working on a gantry building board and hopefully it will be ready to put to work before to long. The Triton Cross Section is beginning to look like a good candidate to run the first shake down with.

 

 

Cheers :)


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Just a little more to post at this time. I have been cutting my lumber to size for the planking and such and have the beams cut to size.

 

I made a little bending jig by gluing the frame drawing to a piece of wood and hammering finishing nails along the beam edge and then I soaked the beams in hot water for about an hour and mounted them in my bending jig. I will let them dry for a day or two before removing them from the jig. I think it will work just find. When that is done I will repeat the whole process for another set. Thanks to Snowmans idea.

 

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Hope I don't get any mold on the wood or I will have to do the old bleach trick on them.

 

Well, back to work, still making planking..     :)  

 

 


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Ron

 

 

Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48

 

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Nice set up for bending the beams,   I wonder should one overbend the beams some to account for any spring back to original shape, or will it dry enough to maintain the shape in the jig??  Will wait and see :)


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