PAMIR 1905 by Mirabell61 - 4 mast barque scale 1:96 - -cargo sailing tallship - as she appeared since 1951/1952 - lost 1957 - Finished

[Mirabell61]

Thanks again Bedford,

 

cheers

 

Nils

[Mirabell61]

Hi Crackers,

when using the "Quote" button to your last message I get an error note, telling me that I´m not allowed to use That ending ?????, the Quote Feature works OK with all other members return Information

 

As for considering perhaps the light cruiser Emden, my preferance lays more on civil ships (exception 17-18th century war ships which I love for the beautiful lines those naval architects were capable of building).

Unfortunately I shall Need to pause anyhow, because I`m running out of space for putting the models

 

Cheers

 

Nils

Edited February 12, 2014 by Mirabell61

[Mirabell61]

Build log part 6

 

 

 

here is a terribly bad and wrong glued together wreck of the 1951 version (Heller 1:150) Pamir Hull, built by unknown...., but I saved it from the bin. It Looks like it ran on to the rocks of Cape Hoorn, but never the less I was only after taking cross check with the own 1:96 hull dimensions. I even sold that hulk at Ebay afterwards to someone else and for the same reason.

By the way, the assebly instruction Manual of the Heller kit, for whoever is able to get an exemplar, bears amoungst other valuable information, beautiful Explosion typ drawings of all individual parts, a great help !

 

leaving open the last Planks came very Handy for clamping down the decks

 

 

started to begin with several cardboard templates for the belaying pin racks Arrangement.

It was my decision to put all the rig (static ad running ropes,lines, chords, stays, Tacklings, bracing tackle, etc...) in full functional way to the rig. I asume there is not a Feature not modeled in to this ship

 

here just a Little Trial model

 

important to fix the Counters on the bottom deck side, same Little model

 

in accordance with the handscetch a made before

 

some of the many pin racks, semiround brass edge on the rope wear side, wooden semiround on the other

 

These also take up the shrouds- and backstay fastening bolts as well as the many individual pins

 

all eyelets have sufficiant Counter Points beneath the decks

 

eyelets within the mastgarden racks

 

 

 

Build log part 7 to follow...

 

 

Nils

[S.Coleman]

Very nice! I love the way that deck planking came up, looks amazing. How are you going to cover the Philips screws on your belaying pin racks? Some sort of filler? It's looking real great.

[Mirabell61]

S.Coleman,

Thank you for your words, the Tacklings of the belaying Pins afterwards cover the Philips srews heads to a great degree, (not obvious to see any more), so I leave them as is..., I also have the possibilty to tighten the screwheads after the Setting pull in the rig Needs some readjusting.

 

Nils

[Mirabell61]

This is very nice and a favourit ship and your looks impresv to. I have a phot that I will hope to seend you that came from the harbour master offic in Exmouth Devon uk robin b

Hi Robin

Oh yes, that will be nice, I`m looking Forward to your Photo, and thank you

 

Nils

[Mirabell61]

Build log part 7

 

 

 

bow bulwark planked but not sanded and not trimmed yet

 

aft maindeck with outcut for hatch

 

Counter measures below the deck

 

aft maindeck with port side fitted pinracks and mastgarden

The Philips head screws are stainless steel and M 1,4 thread

 

 

 

eyelets on starbord side

 

aft maindeck new deckhousing

 

starbord pinrack also mounted

 

final fit check poopdeck

 

Need to give round openings for to pass through the vents of deckhousings and for Counters of the eyelets around the masts area

 

 

 

Build log part 8 to follow

 

Nils

Edited February 12, 2014 by Mirabell61

[Mirabell61]

Build log part 8

 

 

 

 

all decks and the two deckhousings fitted

 

doing the forecastle bulwarks, bow jib boom mounted

 

set of supports for catwalks

 

model for hight adjustable support

 

the two appropriate parts

 

taking measurements with dummy catwalk plank

 

the vent tubes with their Hoods are preliminary mounted

 

the two deckshouses with notches for the venttube sleeves

 

different sizes of vents

 

the two Long ones go to the aft side of the midship highdeck

 

 

 

 

Build log part 9 to follow

 

Nils

[Jim Lad]

Nils, was she given those wooden well decks in the refit as a cadet ship?

 

John

[Mirabell61]

John

the (from outside) visible decks were all from finest steel riveted plating, but they have as well been covered with 3.5 to 4 Inch thick wooden oregeon pine planking from begin on. I unfortunately do not know to what degree the Wood may been (if at all) exchanged during 1951 and thereafter, but the Pictures Show that there was still Wood planking. One deck lower ( Tweendeck) was only steel plated

 

I am adding a Picture out of Gondesens book showing the decks planking on top of the riveted steel plating, and the plain steel riveted tween deck. The SS 180 on the drawing stands for Blohm & Voss build No. 180 that is the Pamir

 

Nils

 

[Jim Lad]

Thanks, Nils!

 

John

[dgbot]

Could you show us how you made those supports?  They look great.

David B

[Mirabell61]

David,

because I needed some supports that would withstand some Little bumps and touchings without breaking during the build, I found the solution shown in my log part 8 and here..

The Little bent to shape brass Strip on top is self explaining (fit to suit)

the brass square tube is 3.0 x 3.0 mm, wallthickness 0.25mm

the brass round tube is 2.5 dia with wallthickness 0.3mm, leaving an nominal opening centerhole of 1.9 mm, just enough for putting through a philips head screw with M 1.6 thread.

the screwhead has to be reduced a bit in Diameter, so that it does not hinder the squaretube to be slipped on in tight fit. The screw Centers itsself by means ot the tapered screw head.

This combination allows Support Setting (tight fit) to the hights and to whatever is to be supported.

 

Nils

 

 

for Fitting to the deck you might Need to put a Little beveling to round tube end in order to compensate the deck curvature at the requested Position,for upright Support Standing, and to fit tiny flat washers under the tube and under the Counter nut on the deck underside. That counternut must be secured, best with a Little wooden Cage and with CA glue

Edited February 13, 2014 by Mirabell61

[Mirabell61]

Build log part 9

 

 

now the Fitting out is slowly moving on

 

the deckhouses had to be metal plated and painted, portholes drilled, etc, allready because they are fastend to the well-decks from below, before the decks had been permanently attached. There is hardly Access to the deckhouses any more in that position

 

I trust not a gram of filler is necessary on the entire single layer planking, shall be nice smooth base for the metal plating

 

 

the deckhouses have rims for their own wooden small decks, and for supporting soldering on of the boat supports later on

 

The ventpost tubes for mounting the cargo derricks to become each an Access lader

 

Fitting in the stairs

 

here one can already imagine to what a fiddeling it shall turn out later on when belaying the mast-pinracks ( and the complete functional running rigging corresponds to the original ships rigging)

 

the Position of the catwalk supports must be carefully Chosen in order not to interfere with the later to be placed steering wire chords that run between These Supports and along the 2 aft welldeck Hatch rims and along the aft deck housing

 

the sleeves for the venttubes allow easy upwards removal for the ventposts for not desturbing during the build

 

self explaining....

 

 

 

Build log part 10 to follow....

 

Nils

[NenadM]

Premier League work !!!!

[dgbot]

Marvelous you must really enjoy working and building with metal.  I think I might chicken out and go to resin casting. 

David B

[Mirabell61]

Build log part 10

 

 

Holding rails and some portholes, deck and rim mounted to deckhouse

 

bunch of vents in all Versions and sizes

 

made some portholes on my own (just learn by doing)

 

Fixing doors and deck reinforckment brackets

 

Access ladder

 

this and the next two pics should have come earlier....(nobody is perfect)

 

 

 

 

 

doors and under deck vents in forecastle area

 

strong eyelets on portside to take on the shrouds and backstays tensile forces

 

 

Build log part 11 to follow

 

 

Nils

[Mirabell61]

Marvelous you must really enjoy working and building with metal.  I think I might chicken out and go to resin casting. 

David B

Nenad and David

thank you for your appreciative words

 

Nils

[Bugra]

Hello Nils ; 

 

I think I should take " how to shape metals parts " lesson from you Wonderful Job!

[Mirabell61]

Thank you Bugra

These few metal parts are really not complicated at all, but I`m glad you like them

 

Nils

[popeye the sailor]

this is a very unique take on build logs..........done on a ship that has already been built     folks always look at a model....and the burning question is  "how did you do it?".   she's a very beautiful model Nils.........I'd be happy to see what it took to build her    interesting how the hull frame was made,  using stringers.   very nicely done!

[Mirabell61]

Build log part 11

 

 

 

 

fixed a spring loaded steering chord strummer, adjustable spanning device

 

the steering (tin galvanized steel chords) come down from aft the highdeck and are guided over the aft welldeck, through the first two Bulkheads of the poopdeck, to where the spring is attached

 

in the Center keel "spine" (in Picture starbord of the spring) the 8,5mm hole-notch for taking up the 3rd mast safely, can be seen

 

the steering device leads into the highdeck wheelhouse in covered square protections

 

and is guided on along the aft welldeck

 

These are the two Long vents, they are still removeable and swivilable like all vents

 

somehow the Pamir Needs to steer, so here Comes the Balance type rudderblade

 

a Little riveting to it.....

 

and here now starts the riveting and plating of the hull

more to that in the next log part

 

for those of you who had already watched the plating of my steamship "Heinrich Kayser" one would say.... as usual..

 

 

 

Build part 12 to follow....

 

Nils

Edited February 13, 2014 by Mirabell61

[popeye the sailor]

well done Nils.......lots of construction tips!   

[Mirabell61]

Well Popeye

Thank you...

I´m happy to share this with the MSW comunity if it is of help for the fellow members

 

Nils

Edited February 13, 2014 by Mirabell61

[captainbob]

I love the grain in the wood deck.  and you're metal woork is great.  Nice work.

 

Bob

[Mirabell61]

Bob,

the deck Planks are cut from pine. I think the etheric pine-oil in the cut Wood brings this nice warm natural structured tone. It smells wonderfull during cutting and sanding, takes on the PA glue very well and is easy to bring into shape.

There shall be more metal work to come later on, because all hollow masts, Yards, etc. are of brass as well as the many winches.

 

Nils

[michael mott]

Just caught this log Nils, wonderful just wonderful to see how you built her. how did you make the vents?

 

Michael

[Jim Lad]

It's a real pleasure to watch her coming together, Nils.

 

John

[Mirabell61]

Hi Michael

thank you

the vents are made from cut off dome nuts and brass tube (a Little bit Fitting and soldering)

Please refer to my "Heinrich Kayser" build log, part 8 if you like

 

Nils

 

ammendment....

 

Michael,

 

here is a quick 3 minutes handscetch, in case you refer to the vents of the deckhousings

 

Nils

 

Edited February 14, 2014 by Mirabell61

[Mirabell61]

It's a real pleasure to watch her coming together, Nils.

 

John

Thank you John

 

Nils