guraus Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share #31 Posted February 24, 2013 ... fatih79, Elmer Cornish, Jeronimo and 4 others 7 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 24, 2013 Share #32 Posted February 24, 2013 I like the way that you only copper-ed a section, when I saw the first picture of the copper going on I thought Oh No all that beautiful planking getting covered with copper. Michael Mirabell61 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dida Posted February 24, 2013 Share #33 Posted February 24, 2013 Beautiful ship! I am impressed with whole build, but must say that the hull planking is perfect. Mirabell61 1 Quote Kind regards, Hrvoje Finished: Leut by Dida My current build: Leut II My forum dealing with traditional Croatian and Mediterranean shipbuilding: http://drvenibrodovi.forumotion.eu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1847 Posted February 24, 2013 Share #34 Posted February 24, 2013 Thanks to reposting back your log. The treenailing and the wales is a master work piece byiself. Best wishes! Daniel. Mirabell61 1 Quote In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share #35 Posted February 24, 2013 Thanks guys. Next batch: riders, crutches and orlop deck beams. Yugo12, fatih79, Obormotov and 3 others 5 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share #36 Posted February 24, 2013 Orlop deck framing and the grand magazine. butch, Obormotov, Megiddo and 8 others 10 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share #37 Posted February 24, 2013 More on the grand magazine Кутузов Сергей, Farbror Fartyg, Zarkon and 5 others 7 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share #38 Posted February 26, 2013 More on hold and orlop deck framing. Elmer Cornish, Yugo12, Mirabell61 and 5 others 8 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share #39 Posted February 26, 2013 ... Jeronimo, paulsutcliffe, Yugo12 and 2 others 5 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share #40 Posted February 26, 2013 ... Jeronimo, Yugo12, Mirabell61 and 3 others 6 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share #41 Posted February 26, 2013 Hold and orlop deck framing is done. fatih79, Jeronimo, Dubz and 4 others 6 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortres Posted February 28, 2013 Share #42 Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Good afternoon !I ask I am sorry my English - I use automatic translator.I talk on behalf of members of forum Serikoff Ship ModelsWe build the models of HMS Victory.Studying "Anatomy of The Ships - HMS Victory" of John McCay and modern photos of ship, we paid attention to such fact.Forehand of upper deck ahead beakhead bulkhead on a modern ship lifted on 1-1,5 foot by comparison to pictures from McCay and is at one level with the grate of latrine(grating).Before grating stood higher than nasal part of upper deck. That do you think on this occasion ? Edited March 1, 2013 by Fortres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share #43 Posted February 28, 2013 Good afternoon ! I ask I am sorry my English - I use automatic translator. I talk on behalf of members of forum http://serikoff.ucoz.ru/ We build the models of HMS Victory. Studying "Anatomy of The Ships - HMS Victory" of John McCay and modern photos of ship, we paid attention to such fact. Forehand of upper deck ahead beakhead bulkhead on a modern ship lifted on 1-1,5 foot by comparison to pictures from McCay and is at one level with the grate of latrine(grating).Before grating stood higher than nasal part of upper deck. That do you think on this occasion ? Hi Fortres, I am not sure I fully understand your question... But I think you are asking about the height of the deck at the beakhead level which in McKay's plans is at the same height as the upper deck as is shown in first picture. From the pictures I took several years ago, when I visited Victory in Portsmouth (pictures 2, 3 and 4 below), one can clearly see there is a difference in level between the upper deck under the fore castle and the outside deck. Same difference can be seen in A. R. Bugler book plans - pictures 5 and 6 below. Based on that I would say there is an error in McKay's plans concerning this particular part of the ship. I am not yet there in my build but I will have that difference in height between the upper deck and beakhead deck. Hope this helps you. Alexandru YaRus, Obormotov and Jeronimo 2 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortres Posted March 1, 2013 Share #44 Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) Hello, Alexandru! Thank you for attention to my question. you understood me correctly. But, I consider that in McKay's plans there is not an error.I regret, but I can not show pictures on your forum.Look position of D1 from "Anatomy of The Ships - HMS Victory" of John McCay - will pay attention to height of bottom of "decorative pilaster .".(p.18) beakhead bulkhead.Compare - as beakhead bulkhead looks today.Look kit from Jotika - on McKay's plans : with a step after the grate of latrine.And when and why changed the height of nasal part of deck is a question !Konstantin. Edited March 1, 2013 by Fortres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share #45 Posted March 1, 2013 Konstantin, The upper deck probably does go, as Mc Kay shows it in the first picture above, all the way forward but what is probably missing is the small beakhead deck 2 or so feet above it as it is shown in Buglers plans (last two pictures). This will make it consistent with what the ship looks today. Was it always like that? I don't know. Was that common practice to have a deck 2 feet above the upper deck which made for a lost space between them? I am not so sure, as wasting space was not common practice on these ships. They always found something to store even in the smallest place. Maybe somebody else on this forum has some additional information about that. I will check to see in other books/plans I have at home of English built ships of that time to see if this arrangement does exists in other ships. Alexandru Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted March 2, 2013 Share #46 Posted March 2, 2013 (edited) Hi Alexandru, Thank you for taking the time and effort to repost your log of this magnificent build. I had forgotten how truly stunning it all was. Re-reading from the beginning has been a real delight. Edited March 2, 2013 by gjdale Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted March 2, 2013 Share #47 Posted March 2, 2013 I just came across this build. You are an inspiration. Incredible work ... if I could aspire to have 1/10 of your skills I would be a very happy man! Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortres Posted March 2, 2013 Share #48 Posted March 2, 2013 AlexandruNasal part of deck was heaved up later, than ship is built.The underbody of beakhead bulkhead testifies to it, on that until now there are decorative pilaster and partial continuation of roundhous below than level of deck on a side in the district of head reils of latrine.Probably, a deck it was heaved up because from an error in constructing before beakhead bulkhead a bowl turned out in 2 feet in depth, that was filled by water at skipper's daughter...I have interest too, what you looked books through this question.Especially I am interested by "HMS Victory - Building, Restoration & Repairs" Arthur R. Bugler,that I can not find on-line. Prompt me - how to place pictures in posts on your web-site ? Konstantin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share #49 Posted March 2, 2013 Thank you Gary for your pictures and for the explanation of how you did it. Thanks Grant and Amfibius for your appreciation and for following my build. Konstantin, I've looked in Rees'e Naval Architecture where he shows several plans of ships at around 1800 (one is a 74 guns) and none has that small rise platform at the beakhead. Couldn't find anything on Longridge's "The Anatomy of Nelson's Ship", nor in Goodwin's "English Man of War". It looks like is not all that common practice to have that but for some reason it was done on some ships. Probably none is wrong. If you want to post pictures you have to press the button "More Reply Options" in the lower right part and then another button labelled "Choose Files..." will show letting you to browse and atach pictures. Alexandru Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share #50 Posted March 2, 2013 Here are some more pictures as I am slowly catching up to where I am. Obormotov, Кутузов Сергей, Yugo12 and 3 others 5 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share #51 Posted March 2, 2013 ... fatih79, Yugo12, cpt. Tom and 2 others 5 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 2, 2013 Share #52 Posted March 2, 2013 Fortres, Please post your pictures in the Gallery. Then modify your post to link to the gallery instead of "hijacking" Alexandru's build. Thanks. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share #53 Posted March 15, 2013 Hello all, I was gone for a couple of weeks but now I am back and I will post some more pictures to get closer to where am I in the build. Here they are starting with the main (lower) deck beams construction and dry fitting. Кутузов Сергей, Obormotov, Yugo12 and 5 others 8 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share #54 Posted March 15, 2013 Before installing the lower deck the planking and arrangements on the orlop deck have to be done. First thing: the electrical installation for the LED lighting of the hold then planking of half the deck. fatih79, Mirabell61 and Obormotov 2 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share #55 Posted March 15, 2013 Main deck framing started from the back of the ship and aft hanging magazine build. Obormotov, fatih79, Yugo12 and 3 others 5 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share #56 Posted March 15, 2013 Lighting of the fore part of the hold and construction of aft bulkheads. Кутузов Сергей, Yugo12, fatih79 and 2 others 5 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guraus Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share #57 Posted March 15, 2013 ... fatih79, Dubz, Mirabell61 and 6 others 8 1 Quote For all my builds please visit my site at: http://www.AlexShipModels.com Previous builds HMS Victory Machine a curer les ports La Jacinthe Japanese Fune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archjofo Posted March 15, 2013 Share #58 Posted March 15, 2013 hello,I admire your fantastic performance. Obormotov 1 Quote Best regards Johann Video: La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette of 1827 - naval artillery La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - Construction of long boat La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - Construction of the masts La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - 2019 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 1 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 2 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 3 See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfn1803 Posted March 15, 2013 Share #59 Posted March 15, 2013 Alexandru, I am so glad to see your log. Such outstanding work is an inspiration to us all. Regards, Clay Quote Current build: HMS EURYALUS (36) 1803 1: 48 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted March 15, 2013 Share #60 Posted March 15, 2013 Hi Alexandru, I am happy that you continue your fantastic log. You build a very nice and special model of this famous ship. Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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