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1) Have a few questions on deck fittings for my Harriet Lane. The first is regarding the Bitts. It appears that the ship came with double bits. Do they go flat side on the deck or round things on the deck with the flat side like a table?

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2) question: The diagram shows "coaling rings" but my parts list doesn't have them listed and the side view diagram doesn't show them either Wayne suggested they are about 18" man hole thingies that are flush to the deck. Does that seem to be correct?

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3) question: Just aft of the windlass are two "thingies" (highly technical terms) where the anchor chains go into...what are these? What do they look like in 3D? Wayne used grommets like the "airports" are made from...is that correct?

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4) Final question: On the drawings there is this thing that almost looks like a speaker next to the deck house. It is not show on the overhead view or anywhere else that I can tell. Does anyone have any clue what this is?

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-Sarah

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Harriet Lane

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Sarah - will wait for others on the first 3 (I made some guesses on mine), but as to #4 (that speaker looking thing) - that is the shaft for the paddlewheels.  What looks like a box is actually bushings - if you look at the end view you can see it as just a shaft between the house and the paddle box.

Wayne

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Hi Sarah,

 

I'm going from memory on some of the other builds on this ship and ships of that era.

 

#1)  I believe "pointy end" up is correct.

 

#2)  Yes, the manhole covers would be right.

 

#3)  Those would be the anchor chain scuttles.  The chain feed through them and goes into the chain locker.   As for shape...I'm not sure if they would extend very far, if at all, above the deck.

 

Hopefully, someone will jump in an tell me where I'm wrong. 

Mark
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Sarah,

 

I found some photos that might help you.

 

1. Bollards to the left of this photo of a preserved trawler in the U.K.

 

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2. A coaling scuttle on the same trawler

 

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3. A photo off the web of a small spurling pipe (for the anchor shain) of the type shown on your plan.

 

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John

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You guys are the absolute best ever! So I'll probably make my "spurling pipe" out of sculpy, and the same with the coaling scuttle (then recess it into the deck), The bitts make soooooo much more sense from the photo, and I think I'll simulate the wheel axel/bushings with a square bit of wood that people would have to "step over"

 

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-Sarah

Current Build:

Krabbenkutter CUX-87

Harriet Lane

Fishcutter GO-38

 

In the Wings:

Corel Victory Cross section

 

Completed Build:

USS Missouri minimissouri.jpgHMS Bounty's Jolly Boat thumbnail.jpg Peterboro Canoe tiny.jpg

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Sarah,

 

I've made that type of spurling pipe in the past from brass tube.  Heat the tube to red heat and allow it to cool in order to anneal it; put a piece of wire of roughly the inside diameter of the tube up inside it to stop it from kinking and then bend it over 90 degrees and cut off to length.  If you do it that way you can also leave a bit of length on one end of it to put into the deck.

 

John

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John that is a great method, thanks for pointing it out. I think if I don't like the way the sculpy ones came out once I've tried painting them that I'll go to the store and get some piping (the only pipe I've got is the stuff for the funnel and that's WAY too big.  Luckily the hobby shop isn't too far away. I'll have photos up on the Harriet Lane log probably by Monday...we can all decide then if its good as is or if I should go get stuff for your method.

Thanks again!  I'm so lucky to have this forum and you guys.

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-Sarah

Current Build:

Krabbenkutter CUX-87

Harriet Lane

Fishcutter GO-38

 

In the Wings:

Corel Victory Cross section

 

Completed Build:

USS Missouri minimissouri.jpgHMS Bounty's Jolly Boat thumbnail.jpg Peterboro Canoe tiny.jpg

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