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As suggested on my opening forum in New to MSW by Allan, I am opening this forum to solicit information/suggestions or insights in completing a model of the Roger B.Taney that I inherited. The model was started by my farther but was not completed. I am now working with a modeler at the SDGO Maritime Museum both fixing damage and trying to complete. I have attached photos to my open forum in New to MSW along with additional information. 

In studying the rigging and sails as inherited it appears that my father took liberties in design of the sail plan increasing the sail area to increase speed. As I look at the rigging it also appears that the  modifications will not work as rigged(not complete). I have found a number of references but none address the specific rigging or the modifications.

Any insight or assistance will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks, Paul

 

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  • 5 months later...

Paul,

Sorry I missed your post in June. I just stumbled upon it. I have the sail plans for the Model Shipways Roger B .Taney. Send me a message and I will see if I can get you a copy.

Kevin

Hampton, VA

 

 

 

Current Builds: Skipjack Albatross - 1:32

 

On Hold: Yacht Atlantic - Scientific

 

Completed:  Ships Boat - MS - First Planked Kit

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Hi Kevin:

Do you still have the rigging plans for the Model Shipways #2006 Roger B Taney?

 

I'm trying to complete the kit my dad started, and almost finished, in 1971.  Anything you have on that model would be great.

 

Rick Cross

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Roger B Taney

Revenue Cutter

Launched 12/26/1833

Isaac Webb design

 

LBP 74.5"

Beam  20" 8.5"

Depth  7.5'

 

Howard I Chapelle drafted a hull plan and it is available from The Smithsonian

They also have  spar plan for the near contemporary  Revenue cutter Jefferson and one for the Revenue cutter Washington.

Since Jefferson may have been a sister, this plan may be close enough.

 

Chapelle provided the following data on his plan of the Taney

 

TaneyMasting.jpg.8ffec568a02e687ecbd1a55f4d32293a.jpg

 

Help for the details may be available in one or all of the following books:

 

LEVER,L DARCY                                                    
EDWARD W SWEETMAN CO                         
NEW YORK                 
1963
MASTING - RIGGING        


ART OF RIGGING, THE  1848                                        
BIDDLECOMB,G                                                     
EDWARD A SWEETMAN                            
NEW YORK                 
1969
MASTING AND RIGGING      


KEDGE ANCHOR, THE  1876                                          
BRADY,WILLIAM N                                                  
MACDONALD AND JANE'S                         
LONDON                   
1974
MASTING AND RIGGING      

 

SEAMANSHIP 1862                                                  
NARES,GEORGE S                                                   
GRESHAM BOOKS                                
SURRY                    
1979
SEAMANSHIP                           
19TH MASTING RIGGING SAIL                                                                                                                                                              

Rigging Period Ship Models
Petersson, Lannarth
Seaforth

2011

 

I have not looked at the books to see which are really helpful for a small vessel like this.

 

NRG member 45 years

 

Current:  

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner -  framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner -  timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835  ship - timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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I have the complete directions for the Roger B Taney. If you need any part, please let me know. I have the complete kit (left to me from my father) and I’m contemplating whether I’m going to build it or not. 😊

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I'm also finally starting a Dikar Roger B Taney model that I bought over 20 years ago but surprise, surprise, the only printed materials they included were plan sheets 1-4, supposedly there should have been 8 sheets total.

 

So if anyone has the complete plans/instructions and wouldn't mind selling/loaning/photographing a copy it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks Edit by moderator to remove email addy and prevent you being spammed.

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Jim

STRONGLY suggest you edit your post and remove your email address as you will likely get spammed from outside MSW.   Members can send you private messages which will go to your email without divulging your email address or theirs.

Allan

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Jim,

I went ahead and removed your email addy.  As Allan mentioned, you would get tons of spam.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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