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HMAS Vampire by Banyan - 1:350 3D Print in FXD


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BANYAN

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Hi folks,

 

My next project will be the HMAS Vampire based on a 1:350 #D printed model from Bogeys Bits (via Shapeways).

 

I served a very enjoyable 2.5 years in this ship and it will be a joy building this model of her as it will rekindle many good memories.

 

HMAS Vampire Official RAN Photo.jpg

 

This photo is from the official RAN website.

 

This log is being started now but no serious work will begin before mid-2016 while I research, acquire detail parts etc and get to grips with working with this material. 

 

This is my first non-wood build so I will be learning a lot as I go.  In the meantime I will have to devote some serious time to my long-suffering Endeavour (if I don’t, the Admiral will have some stern words :)).

 

Place holder for Index

 

Cheers

 

Pat


Edited by BANYAN, 16 October 2015 - 12:46 AM.

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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The following overview of HMAS Vampire is adapted from the description provided in Wikipedia.  Further details can be found at: http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-vampire-ii and https://anmm.wordpress.com/tag/hmas-vampire/

 

The Royal Australian Navy initially ordered four Daring class destroyers, which were to be named after the ships of the "Scrap Iron Flotilla" of World War II.  The ships were modified during construction: most changes were made to improve habitability, including the installation of air-conditioning.  Vampire and her sister ships were the first all-welded ships to be constructed in Australia.

 

The Darings had a standard displacement of 2,800 tons, which increased to 3,600 tons at full load.  Vampire was 390 feet (120 m) long, with a beam of 43 feet (13 m), and a draught of 12 feet 9 inches (3.89 m) at mean, and 14 feet 6 inches (4.42 m) at full or deep load.  Her propulsion system consisted of two Foster Wheeler boilers, feeding two English Electric geared turbines, which provided 54,000 horsepower (40,000 kW) to two propeller shafts.  Vampire could sail at over 30 knots (56 km/h; 35 mph), and had a range of 3,700 nautical miles (6,900 km; 4,300 mi) at 20 knots (37 km/h; 23 mph).  Her standard ship's company consisted of 20 officers and 300 sailors.

Vampire was laid down at Cockatoo Island Dockyard in Sydney, New South Wales on 1 July 1952.  The destroyer was launched on 27 October 1956 by the wife of the Governor-General, Sir William Slim.  She was completed on 22 June 1959, and commissioned into the RAN in Sydney a day later.  In June 1970, Vampire was handed over to Williamstown Naval Dockyard for a $US10 million modernisation.  Vampire re-entered active service on 4 March 1972.

On 25 June 1986, Vampire left active service.  She was decommissioned on 13 August 1986, having spent 27 years in service, and travelled 808,026 nautical miles (1,496,464 km).  She was later presented to the Australian National Maritime Museum for preservation as a museum ship.

 

I will be depicting her as she was when I served in her in 1973 through to mid-1976 when she was COMAUSDESRON 2 (Commander Australian Destroyer Squadron 2).  Her livery will reflect the “pretty work” detail she had when were deployed to the SE Asia station and her visit to the US Bicentenial celebrations.  She will therefore be sporting nice white bollards, fairleads and other tiddly bits :).

 

At that time, post-refit, her main armament comprised six 4.5-inch (110 mm) Mark V guns mounted in three Mark 6 twin turrets, two forward and one aft.  Her anti-aircraft outfit consisted of six 40 mm Bofors; two single mountings on the forward superstructure, and two twin mountings on the aft superstructure.  Four 0.5-inch (13 mm) Browning machine guns were carried for point defence.  For anti-submarine warfare, a Limbo anti-submarine mortar was carried on the aft deck, offset to port.

Vampire was fitted with a Type 170 attack sonar, a Type 174 search sonar, and a Type 185 submarine detection sonar.  The fire control directors were two WM22 units.  The long range air warning radar was an LW-02, and an 8GR-301A surface search and navigation radar was installed.

cheers

 

Pat


Edited by BANYAN, 14 January 2015 - 10:27 AM.

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

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The following photos show the various aspects of the parts designed by Bogey and printed in 3D (Frosted Extreme Detail - FXD) by Shapeways. 

 

This is my first resin 3D printed kit so I do not have much to compare with.  That said it appears a sound kit; I certainly cannt complain about detail as Bogey has included everything we could find to represent her appearance in 1975/76.  This detail shows up very well even at this scale (1:350).

 

I will provide a more detailed report of all of the bits and pieces as I get to grips with what is / is not provided and where greater detail will be needed.

 

These are the kit bits and pieces provided:

 

To be updated

 

I look forward to making a start as the research has been quite enlightening - trying to remember what all the equipment and their locations and arrangements.

I must also thanks Jim Lad (John) for the many trips to Vampire photographing all the details for me.

 

cheers

 

Pat


Edited by BANYAN, 16 October 2015 - 12:54 AM.

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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Will be watching this one as I was on Duchess in 1967.



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Am I correct in assuming the kit came packaged in a tube?  That'd be a first for me.


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Hi Chris, yep in a tube in bubble wrap :)  [Edit:  I am no longer building the resin version Chris refers to and I discuss below]

 

Not sure about the real quality of this kit yet.  While there is a lot of hint of detail, not much is fine detail but at this scale that is to be expected I think?

 

Also there are quite a few air bubble holes (larger than pinholes - probably 1 to 2mm wide, but also pinholes.) and the bubbling/descaling evident on the port bow at the waterline (see first photo).  This is all repairable but perhaps should have been caught in QA? Perhaps I may have been expecting too much?

 

I just had a quick look at your Torpedo Boat V108 - a very nice build and excellent finish.  Is that a resin also. 

 

cheers

 

Pat


Edited by BANYAN, 16 October 2015 - 12:55 AM.

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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Hi rpeteru;

 

I went to Duchess after leaving Vampire and paid her off - many a fine run in the Sth Pacific :)  Thanks for looking in mate.

 

cheers

 

Pat


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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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Nice to see that the 'Bat' is at least on the bench, Pat.

 

Re your Endeavour - I suppose if the missus had stern words you'd bow to the pressure! ;)

 

John


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Hi Chris, yep in a tube in bubble wrap :)

 

Not sure about the real quality of this kit yet.  While there is a lot of hint of detail, not much is fine detail but at this scale that is to be expected I think?

 

Also there are quite a few air bubble holes (larger than pinholes - probably 1 to 2mm wide, but also pinholes.) and the bubbling/descaling evident on the port bow at the waterline (see first photo).  This is all repairable but perhaps should have been caught in QA? Perhaps I may have been expecting too much?

 

I just had a quick look at your Torpedo Boat V108 - a very nice build and excellent finish.  Is that a resin also. 

 

cheers

 

Pat

 

 

  G'day Pat, I look forward to you building her, she has very nice lines, I have only built one resin kit and that was HMS Cossack, I cannot recall the scale but she was tiny, that kit also had air bubble holes and a lot of pin holes, I made enquiries and was told that it is normal for resin kits, I built her as full hull and had a lot of filling and sanding to do to get the two parts to fit, anyway hope you enjoy building her,

 

  best regards John.



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Hi John (Jim Lad),

 

thanks for looking in and the 'comments'  - me bow - NEVER (well only until dinner time) :)

 

cheers

 

Pat


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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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Hi John (Neptune) thanks for looking in also.  I have done a dry fit of the bits and pieces without having sanded the flash etc off and all seems to align pretty well but there will be a gap where the two hull halves join.

 

As to the pin/holes, a tip I have picked up is to fill them with 5 min brush on resin gel (the stuff fingernail artists use) as it adheres better than putties and works well.  I have picked up a bottle and intend to try it this weekend.

 

cheers

 

Pat


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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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Hi Banyan

Definitely looking forward to this one and will keep a close eye on research and construction.

All the best
Patrick

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Pat,

 

This looks to be fun.. and the research and memories will a big part of it.   I'm pulling up a chair also.


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Hey Pat, I think all resin kits have air bubbles and distortions compared to injection moulded plastic kits. I'm sure those imperfections could be filled and sandpapered. 


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While assessing the Resin kit version  I had decided to change the turrets provided in the kit.  A close inspection shows that some of turrets were subtly different.  Only B turret had the aerial mounting platform, and other turrets have different numbers of access panels.  Bogey (from bogeys bits) was able to create a set that represents the turrets exactly as fitted in Vampire, and with a little more detail than the resin kit version provides.  I am still trying to find brass barrels for the 4.5" guns, but will resort the printed ones.  If you have a close look at the printed turrets, bogey provides two mounting options, one with, one without the barrels in situ.  the design also allows the barrels to be set at any angle you like.  There is also more detail provided in the barbette mounting/slip ring under the turret. 

 

This was fortuitous, as these parts are now part of the 3D printed kit.

 

These bits are designed by Bogey and printed via shapeways in Frosted Extreme (FXD) Detail which really is great for showing detail, even at this small scale.  See:

http://www.shapeways...c=SearchResults 

 

The following is a copy of picture from Bogey's page on Shapeways which shows what it can look like when painted.  Also shown is a copy of the Limbo Mk10 mortar that will be fitted.  Also note that this is a standard turret and that Vampire had 3 panels in hers.

 

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These printed items are good value for money and will allow me to show much more detail.

 

Anyone know of a brass barrel manufacturer (at 1:350) for these 4.5" guns (Master does not have them)?

 

cheers

 

Pat


Edited by BANYAN, 16 October 2015 - 01:02 AM.

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If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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Hey Pat, great to see a new worklog. You served on these boats in 1973? You don't look that old! I think I have more white hair than you! 

 

If you need brass barrels of that size, why not turn them? You have a Sherline lathe, don't you? 


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Nice build with several memories. However how did they come up with the name?
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Hi all,

 

Thanks for looking in Patrick (great name!), Mark and Dave.  Dave Vampire 1 was one of the ships in our old 'V' class and formed part of the 'scrap-iron' flotilla during WWII in the Med. see: http://en.wikipedia....p_Iron_Flotilla - Vampire II, along with Voyager and Vendetta, were named in their honour and followed the RN tradition of renaming ships with the same name if they had 'honourable' names and histories.  The scrap iron flotilla proved a very big thorn in the side of German attempts to supply their troops and trying to isolate ours - got quite a name for themselves.  The number of names that can be used that start with V are limited so perhaps that is one of the reasons for "Vampire"?

 

Brian, here is an example of what I mean by the pin-holing (you need to  open it the larger size); appreciate your interest in this little project.

 

Bridge resion block with pinholes.jpg

 

I don't know if this is normal (this degree of holes) for resin or not as it is my first one

 

cheers

 

Pat


Edited by BANYAN, 08 February 2015 - 07:46 PM.

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) - underway

Next builds:    HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin 1:350)

Built:                Battle Station (Scratch)

                         HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (1:64)


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G'day Pat, I did'nt have as many pin holes as that in my HMS Cossack, it looks rather severe,

 

  best regards John.



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Thats the norm with resin kits i'm afraid mate. Some Tamiya modellers putty and a bit of sandpapering will sort it. 






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