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Why not build another Spanish three-decker like that, based on better sources and a modern reconstruction? The Nuestra Señora de la Concepción y de las Ánimas! The reconstruction made it into the spanish naval museum, and Dusek (MSW partner) released a kit of it.
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Brig USS Enterprise 1799 info gathering
Chapman replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Yes, thats the 1799 Enterprize or Enterprise as 1806 under David Porter. This picture by Antoine Roux actually has a text under the ship with the exact date in 1806 and David Porter as Capt. are called. Another picture by the same artist and the ship, also in 1806, shows the other side of the ship and, as I already mentioned, in motion. These two images are the most detailed and credible images of the ship. The number and placement of the existing gun ports are interesting. There are 7 gun ports but obviously none, not even a locked one next to or in front of the foremast. -
Brig USS Enterprise 1799 info gathering
Chapman replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Chapelle himself presented a plan for the superior in one of his books. There is probably a english made plan and a picture of the Superieur, it is possible that the above plan reconstruction of the Enterprize 1806 is based on this plan. However, we know that, among other things, the stern of the Enterprize was rebuilt before the shipyard in Venice, so it must have originally looked different and was therefore not completely identical to the Superieur. However, there are 2 pictures ( One portside at anchor and one underway from starboard ) of the Enterprize from the Roux family from the time after the renovation in Venice and still in the Mediterranean. which then show a strong similarity to the Superieur. -
Brig USS Enterprise 1799 info gathering
Chapman replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Hi Phil! The plan, according to Italian literature, is the brig cutter Giasone. An expanded version of the cutter class type Enea based on English plans. -
Hi George, in the past I had found ship oars stored on the outside of the Bulwarks in Baugean's detailed depictions of ships. Here is a link to a Mediterranean ship. I think there are a few to see here. There is also a nice representation of a big Dutch cutter of war from Baugean, here the ship's oars can also be seen on the outside of the bulwark. Sorry, can't find any better files online at the moment. Edit: Link Link 2
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Based on the main decorative figure, the winged coat of arms with lilies, and the top end of the side galleries with fire and birds, I think the bird depictions are phoenixes. As for the heads, they look like frightening scary faces. I suspect that the heads do not represent a specific character and are all pretty much identical, because they were probably made in a small series by an assistant.
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Van de Velde shows the last middle deck gun port of the French Reine with a standard gunport lid. The contemporary model of HMS Prince from 1670 had at that place a vertically divided lid. The latter would better adapt to the shape of the side gallery on the Fulminant. This would also cover the inharmonious and deep cut into the side gallery.
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I am pleased that the two ladies can now tell each other the latest gossip🛍️ face to face. As a decorative figure, without small talk, otherwise pretty boring. And the horses' necks look healthier too.😄
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