Jim Lad Posted February 16, 2013 Share #1 Posted February 16, 2013 Well, the Stag is back, but only in a “from here on” form, as I never keep copies of my posts. Just to remind you, the Stag was an English revenue cutter built at Ryde, on the Isle of Wight, in 1827. This was the revenue cutter that seized my Great-great grandfather’s boat Palmerin, which was the subject of a now defunct build log on the old site. I felt it only fair to build a model of the revenue cutter as well – besides, I’ve always liked cutters. Oddly enough, the Stag was the fastest cutter of her day and as a consequence, the Royal Navy took her into Portsmouth Dockyard in 1839 and took off her lines, which resulted in a very nice set of detailed ‘as built’ drawings, which are housed in the National Maritime Museum at Greenwich. To kick off the resurrected log, here are contemporary paintings of the Stag, her inboard profile and some photos of her as she stands now. I’ll hopefully be posting an update next week, but in the meantime I’ll be happy to answer any questions that members may have about the build in view of the fact that the information in the old log hasn’t been reproduced here. John Chuck, Dubz, qwerty2008 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted February 16, 2013 Share #2 Posted February 16, 2013 To bad your log was lost, but this still will be a great model, that will never change. I can imagine she was fast, she's got a whole lot of sq ft sail Remco Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 16, 2013 Share #3 Posted February 16, 2013 Hi John, Yes the loss was painfull, I will follow along as you continue the build. Good to see you back up and running. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted February 16, 2013 Share #4 Posted February 16, 2013 Nice to your Stag back John - shame about the loss of the previous log, but we'll all enjoy following you to the finish line from here on! Cheers,Grant Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 16, 2013 Share #5 Posted February 16, 2013 I loved your build log and it is a pitty it got lost. However, I'm glad we can still have this as reference material. These cutters needed to be fast with the smuggling during those days ... It's incredible how much sail she could carry, even under heavy weather. Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted February 16, 2013 Share #6 Posted February 16, 2013 I'm glad to see you back up and running, John. I look forward, as always to your future work on her. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted February 16, 2013 Share #7 Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) The painting shows the ship had lovely lines. I will be looking forward to watching the rest of your build! Edited February 16, 2013 by newbuilder101 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted February 16, 2013 Share #8 Posted February 16, 2013 Glad to see Stag has returned. Oh yeah, you too John. And thanks for including one photo with that whacky galley stack. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j21896 Posted February 16, 2013 Share #9 Posted February 16, 2013 And just how many thousands of posts had you gotten up to John? Seriously, it's great to see you and Stag back on-line! Cheers, Robert Quote Current Build: HMS Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 16, 2013 Share #10 Posted February 16, 2013 And from your on saying, its now the fun begins, eyh?! (read Rigging) Good to have you back! Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted February 16, 2013 The Stag thanks you all for your welcome back! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 17, 2013 Share #12 Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I am glad to have made it back!............glad to see the Stag did as well. thankfully people talk....or I wouldn't have known when MSW was back online. I couldn't use the bookmark I have, so I had to do a search in order to reconnect with the site.......just got in tonight. it's so sad to see the library so bare gone is the content that used to be there it was like taking a walk on the longest pier to view all the ships that used to be here through all the effort, of all that are friend will whittle away, in an effort to mend the void that was created, by the electronic foe back to the greatest site, that we used to know it's not much, but I threw this together for you folks at MSW...........we'll get her back ship shape Sir{s} Edited February 18, 2013 by popeye the sailor coxswain, Wintergreen, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Posted February 17, 2013 Share #13 Posted February 17, 2013 John, Its good to see Stag back in the dockyard! Cheers, Elia Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlb Posted February 17, 2013 Share #14 Posted February 17, 2013 Looking forward to the rigging, John. Can't wait to see the rest of the mast, the boom, etc. Ron Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks for the welcome back, folks. Popeye - you may well be appointed as MSW's poet laureate! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 17, 2013 Share #16 Posted February 17, 2013 an appointment I would be all to happy to take on just so happy to be back with all my friends. I took Monday off.........I think I'll be quite busy tonight! cog 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted February 17, 2013 Share #17 Posted February 17, 2013 Nice to see your Revenue Cutter Stag log back in action, John, looking forward to more updates Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted February 18, 2013 Share #18 Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Hey John great to see you and this great build reappear. Could I ask that one of your next posts includes a scaling device or ruler so that newer folks see just how small a scal you work with? Popeye - we'll look forward to the when you are appointed cheers Pat Edited February 21, 2013 by BANYAN Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 19, 2013 Share #19 Posted February 19, 2013 thank you pat.......and every one who 'liked' the poem. a great comedian once said in an interview, that he used to travel around with a note pad in his pocket......every time he thought of something, he'd write it down. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share #20 Posted February 19, 2013 Aldo and Pat, thanks for your support. I'll try and remember a ruler when I take the next photos, Pat! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dida Posted February 19, 2013 Share #21 Posted February 19, 2013 Nice ship and beautiful build! Quote Kind regards, Hrvoje Finished: Leut by Dida My current build: Leut II My forum dealing with traditional Croatian and Mediterranean shipbuilding: http://drvenibrodovi.forumotion.eu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted February 19, 2013 Share #22 Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) John--- just don't use Australian coin currency as a size reference Edited February 19, 2013 by Augie Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 19, 2013 Share #23 Posted February 19, 2013 Welcome back. Even if the log was lost, the model is still there, and she looks great! Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share #24 Posted February 20, 2013 I managed to get a bit of work done today, but no photos, unfortunately. The bowsprit is now permanently fitted (I hope I don't regret it later), I replaced the anchor shaskles and got a bit of work done on the main mast and top mast. I took my camera in to the museum with a set of fully charged batteries only to find when I get there that my 'alternate brand' set of batteries had lost their full charge in only four days! Oh well, photos next time! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Vadas Posted February 20, 2013 Share #25 Posted February 20, 2013 Welcome back John . I'll be following with interest as usual. What? You don't save ANY of your pics??? Why on earth not? A hard lesson, what happened a week ago . Cheers, Danny Quote Cheers, Danny ________________________________________________________________________________ Current Build : Forced Retirement from Modelling due to Health Issues Build Logs : Norfolk Sloop HMS Vulture - (TFFM) HMS Vulture Cross-section 18 foot Cutter Concord Stagecoach 18th Century Longboat in a BOTTLE CARD Model Build Logs : Mosel Sydney Opera House (Schreiber-Bogen) WWII Mk. IX Spitfire (Halinski) Rolls Royce Merlin Engine Cape Byron Lighthouse (HMV) Stug 40 (Halinski) Yamaha MT-01 Yamaha YA-1 HMS Hood (Halinski) Bismarck (GPM) IJN Amatsukaze 1940 Destroyer (Halinski) HMVS Cerberus Mi24D Hind (Halinski) Bulgar Steam Locomotive - (Modelik) Tanker and Beer Wagons (Modelik) Flat Bed Wagon (Modelik) Peterbuilt Semi Trailer Fender Guitar Restorations for Others : King of the Mississippi HMS Victory Gallery : Norfolk Sloop, HMAT Supply, HMS Bounty, HMS Victory, Charles W. Morgan, 18' Cutter for HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture, HMS Vulture Cross-section, 18th Century Longboat in a Bottle Other Previous Builds : Le Mirage, Norske Love, King of the Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted February 20, 2013 Danny, I have all my pictures, but I didn't think that this was an important enough log to reconstruct it completely. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted February 20, 2013 Share #27 Posted February 20, 2013 but I didn't think that this was an important enough log to reconstruct it completely. John I think you are underestimating the value that your log contributes to the sum of knowledge on this forum!! Could you not add a shorter set so that some context is provided and that the members don't think that you stole Harry Potter's Wand and just materialized the wonderful model out of thin salty air? Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Salomone Posted February 20, 2013 Share #28 Posted February 20, 2013 Hello Jim, It's always a pleasure to see your work. The English das quite a variety of cutters, and this is a fine example of good old English Naval Architecture. I cannot really give my opinion, as my line of builds is 1850 to 1945, but I do recognise good work. Well done Jim, you have created a small jewel. I echo, what the other have said, I cannot wait to see her ready for action. I have the billing boats Wasa, Denmark and the German WW1 sailing auxiliary cruiser. Still in their boxes. I must find some time to get these started. Quote Cheers Paul NEVER RETREAT - NEVER SURRENDER JUST DO IT YOUR WAY AND NEVER LOOK BACK Current Build: 1:72nd German WWII Heavy Battle Cruiser DKM Scharnhorst http://modelshipworld...1:72ndDKMScharnhorst/ Future Build Logs: German WWII Captured Flower Class Corvette. German WWII Armed Trawler. German WWII Aircraft Carrier - Graf Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 20, 2013 Share #29 Posted February 20, 2013 oh well John...........but at least it's nice to hear you got to work on her........I'll look forward in seeing some pictures soon. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 21, 2013 Share #30 Posted February 21, 2013 John: I am sure everyone would like to see at least a few photos of your early framing and planking process on this model. It is really quite something to behold. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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