esion Posted November 10, 2016 Share #1 Posted November 10, 2016 Hey everyone, I am back with another rigging question. On this portion of the rigging you can see #546 shown as two lines coming off the end of the fore sail gaff going down to stop #547, anchored through #549 and wrapping around #48a. So here is my question: Are there really two lines? Are they suggesting that I would have a line connecting to #48 on each side? The quantities on the instructions don't indicate that I would use two stops, etc. And all the pictures in the instructions only show one side, so I can't tell if it is on both sides. I guess I just don't know how this really worked on the ship. Is this something that they removed from 48 and swung from side to side? Or did they keep tension on both sides and adjust according to the wind? Thanks for the help! mtaylor, Canute and skipper1947 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted November 10, 2016 Share #2 Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) The line in question is called a vang. It's purpose is to prevent the gaff from sagging to leeward causing the sail to twist, an inefficient shape. Vangs were rigged in pairs. The windward one would be set up to control the gaff and the leeward one slacked off. When the sail was not set, by setting up both vangs the gaff could be left "standing," not lowered. The sail could be then brailed up to the gaff and mast. Yes, you need to rig two gangs, port and starboard. Roger Pellett Edited November 10, 2016 by Roger Pellett allanyed, Canute, esion and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esion Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted November 10, 2016 Thank you! I sort of figured but without good images I was stuck. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulises Victoria Posted November 10, 2016 Share #4 Posted November 10, 2016 This is a very common happening in rigging instructions. When two ropes are the same on both sides, they usually just draw one and a portion or a hint of the other to make drawings more clear or less cluttered. John Allen, BANYAN, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Coleman Posted November 10, 2016 Share #5 Posted November 10, 2016 Sometimes the letter "D" is used to represent that the line is double. John Allen, mtaylor, esion and 2 others 5 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted November 10, 2016 Share #6 Posted November 10, 2016 You might also see 'P&S' indicating port and starboard, in other words that there are two lines. esion, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esion Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share #7 Posted November 14, 2016 Sometimes the letter "D" is used to represent that the line is double. Thank you! I went back and looked at the instructions and saw the "D" on the line I was working on. That makes much more sense, I appreciate the help. -Mike- and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAM Posted November 21, 2016 Share #8 Posted November 21, 2016 what model are you working on? mtaylor and tasmanian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marter1229 Posted December 3, 2016 Share #9 Posted December 3, 2016 This topic was great help. Thanks Terry mtaylor and -Mike- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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