russ Posted January 29, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 29, 2017 Hello everyone. I am starting a new project. This is a 1/48 scale scratch built model of a Biloxi lugger named Captain Roy, built in 1948 by local builder Jules Galle'. This was one of two identical luggers he built that year for Roy Rosalis, owner of Biloxi Canning Co. The other boat was named Boston Bill. I have used tonnage admeasurement data and photographs to reconstruct the lines and details for this model. Here are two photographs; one is a rather poor copy, and a bow view. I also include the outboard view from my plans so you can see the finished model's appearance, and her original certificate of admeasurement showing her dimensions etc. Russ KennyH78, KenW, mtaylor and 12 others 15 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #2 Posted January 29, 2017 Here is where the fun begins. Russ KennyH78, Overworked724, KenW and 14 others 17 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skifflake Posted January 29, 2017 Share #3 Posted January 29, 2017 Hi Russ: I will be joining in. thanks. Pat at Skiff Lake NB Canada mtaylor and russ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahuna Posted January 29, 2017 Share #4 Posted January 29, 2017 Hi Russ. Looking forward to following your build. mtaylor and russ 2 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 29, 2017 Share #5 Posted January 29, 2017 Nice, a new model!! I'll just sit back relax and enjoy the ride mtaylor and russ 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted January 29, 2017 Share #6 Posted January 29, 2017 A Biloxi lugger. What a wonderful workboat. Thanks Russ, a similar boat, a shrimper is on my list. Bob mtaylor and russ 2 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted January 29, 2017 Share #7 Posted January 29, 2017 She looks a fine, seaworthy work boat, Russ. Interesting that such a boat should be called a lugger; do you know the origin of the name? John russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) Most agree that it was taken from the sailing luggers that were used in this area in the late 19th century. They carried a dipping lug sail used in European waters, especially in the Mediterranean. They were built here by immigrant builders and sailors for local use. Many of those luggers were later fitted with engines and then later, newer boats that were built along the same lines were built with engines and were called luggers. The Captain Roy is a later variety that is characterized by a larger hull that is a bit longer for its breadth and a bit deeper for its length than previous luggers. The earlier luggers from the 1920s-30s were rather small and tended to be a bit tubbier and more shallow. I should mention that the term lugger in this instance refers to a Biloxi built motor powered fishing vessel with the pilot house aft. If the pilot house were up forward, as they were in many later built boats, they would not call it a lugger. The local term would be a "Florida rig", referring to the similarity with shrimp boats built along the Florida Gulf Coast. Russ Edited January 29, 2017 by russ KenW, Elia, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted January 29, 2017 Share #9 Posted January 29, 2017 That's interesting, Russ - and I thought that might perhaps be the answer as our 'pearling luggers' arer still called that even though they've been motoer boats for a long time, and gaff rigged ketches since before the turn of the 20th century. John russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted January 30, 2017 The next step is to cut out the pieces for the profile former. Although I could try and get the former out of a single piece, it is always possible/probable/likely that there will be a warp or twist that would ruin it. So, I decided to cut it out of two pieces with a jigsaw type joint between two bulkheads. It is also important to trim that joint carefully to get a decent fit and alignment. On the pattern there is a reference line that must line up from one end to the other. This will help me fitting the bulkheads later on. Also, there is the bearding line that is marked on the pattern. This needs to flow from end to the other. This is all about sand, check, sand, check until each area is right down to the line on the pattern and it all fits. Once the profile former pieces have been trimmed to their outer shape, the center joint fits and all has been checked for fit with the plans, I used a scalpel blade to trim along the bearding line on both pieces. The paper in the rabbet was removed and the bearding line transferred to the other side of the former. I also measured and marked the edge of the former pieces for the depth of the rabbet. Next is actually trimming the rabbet. Russ davec, canoe21, KenW and 10 others 13 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted January 30, 2017 Share #11 Posted January 30, 2017 Hey Russ. Looks like it will be a great model! I like the way your models are of boats with local history. The plans you're using - are they of your design? A very impressive start and looking forward to following along. Cheers. russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Pilot Boat Mary of Norfolk Completed Builds: Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share #12 Posted January 30, 2017 Ken: Thanks. I have made the history of these boats my work and I hope to publish about it eventually. I am working from original customs house documents and photographs, as well contemporary newspaper articles, half models, etc. The plans are mine. They are developed from tonnage admeasurements and photographs. Nothing traced from any other plans. Russ KenW, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted January 30, 2017 Frank, Carl, and Bob: I am glad to have you guys along. I hope you enjoy it. Russ mtaylor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted January 30, 2017 Pat: Thanks for looking in. I missed replying to you and the others. Russ mtaylor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share #15 Posted January 31, 2017 The rabbet has been trimmed, although it will require some fine tuning. Here is a photograph of the two pieces of the profile former roughly fitted, but not glued together. The daylight in the center joint is deceiving. When it goes together properly, the joint is much tighter. The paper pattern has been removed and the bulkhead slots have been cut and the trimmed to size. The bottoms of the slots will be fine tuned as each bulkhead is fitted. Next is cutting the bulkheads and fitting them to their slots in the profile former. Russ popeye the sailor, Jack12477, Elia and 8 others 11 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted January 31, 2017 Share #16 Posted January 31, 2017 Hi Russ a bit late to the show, A very interesting looking boat, I shall be following along. Looks like youe have made a good start already. Michael russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted January 31, 2017 Michael: Thanks for looking in. This was a fairly typical local fishing vessel from the 30s on through the 70s, although the later boats carried the heavier double rig instead of the single rig. So far, I am trying to make sure that the framework is as close to the plans as possible. That will make planking (and everything to follow) much easier. Russ mtaylor and cog 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted January 31, 2017 Share #18 Posted January 31, 2017 Looks like you're half way there already, Russ! John mtaylor and russ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share #19 Posted January 31, 2017 John: Not quite. Russ mtaylor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted February 1, 2017 Share #20 Posted February 1, 2017 I like your style of creating a model. It's like you create a 'kit', and then build it. Ever think of making your plans available to the MSW public? Very impressive. russ, mtaylor and cog 3 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Pilot Boat Mary of Norfolk Completed Builds: Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share #21 Posted February 1, 2017 Ken: Thanks. The components do resemble what you see in a kit, albeit with a few more bulkheads. If you cut and trim everything carefully, there is nothing here that is beyond the experiences of one who has built a kit or two. There may be some plan sharing in the future. Russ Elia, popeye the sailor and cog 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share #22 Posted February 5, 2017 At the risk of boring anyone, here is the latest (and not much of it) progress in the framing. Bulkhead frames 1-5 have been cut and fitted into their slots in the profile former. Still some tweaking to do along the bearding line. I am going to fit all the bulkheads to make sure they slide in with just a little friction, but not glued in until the profile former pieces are glued together. Bulkhead 5 will likely be replaced because during the fitting process, it broke right alongside the former and along the bulkhead's wood grain. I have another pattern glued up and I will probably recut that bulkhead tomorrow. I glued the bulkhead back together and the joint is solid enough, but I will have nightmares about it breaking during the final sanding before planking. If that happens, there will be the devil to pay. Better to recut it and not worry about that glue joint. Russ mtaylor, canoe21, popeye the sailor and 10 others 13 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share #23 Posted February 7, 2017 Some more progress. Nothing earthshattering, but I have shaped and dry fitted bulkhead frames back to about the midsection. So far, good plans and careful cutting and sanding have yielded very good results. A sample plank was laid over the outside of the bulkheads and everything looks good so far. Needless to say, I am feeling pretty good at the moment. Russ mtaylor, src, dj.bobo and 9 others 12 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share #24 Posted February 7, 2017 One other item. On my bulkhead drawings, I have placed a horizontal line to use as a reference. There is a corresponding line on the profile former. Once the line on the bulkhead meets the line of the profile former, I have the correct height for that bulkhead. One problem I had early on was how to accurately transfer these lines from the drawings to the wood surface. Here is a how I did it. I used this on both the bulkheads and the profile former and it worked very well. Russ captainbob, Mahuna, KennyH78 and 9 others 12 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 7, 2017 Share #25 Posted February 7, 2017 She's coming along well, Russ. That's a cunning idea for transfering the line onto the bulkhead. John mtaylor, russ and cog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share #26 Posted February 7, 2017 John: Thanks. I am looking forward to planking this model. I think it will be a pleasant experience. I hope that trick with the reference line might be useful for someone down the road. Russ mtaylor and src 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 7, 2017 Share #27 Posted February 7, 2017 Russ, Looks promising. You could have used carbonpaper for the line, at least, that was my initial thought. Cheers russ and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted February 7, 2017 Share #28 Posted February 7, 2017 A late comer Russ, somehow missed your new build - but better late than never I suppose Looks like another very nice Biloxi Lugger in the making. cheers Pat russ and mtaylor 2 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share #29 Posted February 7, 2017 Carl: Thanks. I am not sure how carbon paper would work when the pattern is rubber cemented to the wood. I used a scalpel to remove the part of the pattern I needed without disturbing the pattern as a whole. Russ mtaylor and cog 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share #30 Posted February 7, 2017 Pat: Thanks. Glad you found the build. This one is a motor powered boat so very little rigging and no sails. There will be a trawl net and some machinery on deck, but compared with the schooner, there is a lot less fiddly work to be done above deck. Russ cog, Elia, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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