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I´ll start by putting some pics and I will edit them later.

 

I have saved most of the literature in word but I´ll try to resume and cut some of them.

 

 

Let´s see.

 

 

Congrants  Sinan to see you back, come on and go for the planking...!

 

Regards,

 

 

Daniel.

 

 

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These are good news, Daniel.

I think, it's a good idea to rebuild your log as it was, because this will be very helpful for other less experienced user, who like to build the model.

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

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DEAD WOOD + INNER POST: 05/12/2012



Hi every single soul around!



Lots of things have being made during these
days. I have finally “recover” de Aft deadwood piece and start to make the
steps for the aft cant frames.



With the pattern glued to the starboard was
easy to cut the steps, for the other side, the portside, I printed out again
the same pattern but I have used tracing paper (vegetal paper) in order to copy
the same lines in the other side. I have marked with a pencil the lines at the
top and the bottom to be sure that this pattern is symmetrical to the other side
of the deadwood.



I have chiseled the perimeter of the piece
of wood, like if you are modeling a piece of stone. Doing this you assure
yourself not to remove too much wood than it is necessary.



I have work very carefully while chiseling
the wood with X-acto blades out of de Aft deadwood in order to make the step
cuts….like someone said  once “the wood
you chisel out, never comes again”



Meanwhile I am cutting several frames to
just relax myself.



Hope to finish at least the stern for the
end of the year…



Best wishes.



 



Daniel.



 

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Hi everyone!



I´ve decided to cut the patterns for the
frames abaft. It takes a while to print them, write on them and cut them all
with the scissors. I am using transparent folders to keep them all in order.



In every folder I cut and keep the scale
with the number of the frame. I use it to write on it the pieces I have to
repeat (too much wood eaten by the scroll saw i.e.) or the frames I am not sure
that are been cut properly. I am always trying to leave at list 0.5mm of wood
out of the cut line to be sanded lately.



It has taken me till frame #12 to realize
the thing about “blue” and “red” lines Mark was talking about. Red lines are
forward (“a proa”) and blue lines abaft (“a popa”). Therefore I assume that
looking at our plan the right hand side is the portside (“babor”) and the left
is the starboard (“estribor”).



This can seem pretty obvious to you but for
me It´s been a pain in the neck. Not to mention I am a little bit dyslexic.
Right, left, left, right …



 



Best wishes to all.



Daniel.



 

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Hi everyone!



I think this might be the shortest post I
put on. I am just happy to been accomplished at least two of the filling
transoms #4 & #3.  I have repeated
four times #4 and twice #3. Fingers cross.



My intention is to put some kind of rising
keelson fronting the inner post and the five transoms. It´s my intention,
another thing is if I will be able to do so with the tools I have right now.



The pics show how I fail treating to finish
the FT#3 by itself. I founded that sanding and chiseling it before been cut
from the whole piece of wood was easier. The piece is quiet weak. I have also
bevel a little bit the inner post to “receive” the filling transoms.



 



Daniel.



 

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    I have glued all the patterns to the cherry wood till #20 so during next weeks I will be just cutting and cutting lots of
pieces. That means I will be out for a while.

 

I´ve also done the stern Jig. 



 

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Hello Again.



It has happened again. As Randy advised me
I did bevel too much frame #28 so I have had to redo both. More scrap pieces to
the sack. But I am happy because I am at last building something rather than
being cutting and sanding day and day.



The JIG has been very helpfully so far… I
do not Know how I am going to get rid of it cause it won’t come out by itself.



I have glued already frames #28,#27,#25
& #23. And tomorrow I hope to complete the whole thing.  I´ll write some more explaining the process.



Here are some pics…



 

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The hardest frames have been #28 and #27. I
repeated twice #28 and maybe I´ll have to repeat the portside fame again. As
you can see only #27 is shaped an beveled… we´ll see if I have to repeat this
too.



I will follow what Druxey said to me as the
Bible:



“If I can recommend
not getting too enthusiastic about bevelling the frames before erecting them.
It is an unpleasant surprise when fairing up the hull later to discover you
took a little too much off earlier!”



The rest of the frames were pretty easy to
fit. I am using a ribband to understand more or less the shape of the
hull. 



Have a good weekend. Let´s rebuild our logs!!


 

Daniel.



 

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Wow, looks like a great model that you have going on there. Good Luck with everything.

 

Later Tim

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Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while

Current Build -- Triton Cross Section

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Good morning people!

 

I have completed all the aft frames from #19 till #0 The dead flat one. Number 3 is not in the picture. I´ve allready printed out the copies for the fore frames so the next days I will be busy again writing and cutting more patterns. Back to the post #4!!

 

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Enjoy your day.

 

Daniel.

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Hello all and thanks ! (We are just four or five... :()

 

I have stolen a little time just to cut the parts of the stem. My intention is to glue all the four pieces #3 together and then sand and fair them. That´s why I´ve left some extrawood above where they joint with piece #4.

 

Here are the rough cut pieces and the lefties.

 

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Then in order to sand them I always ensure the perpendicular of the table sand machine.

 

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Here is the tyniest piece I´ve ever sand with the disc sand.

 

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And here is the result of sanding. I have to fair them much more. I hope to have some time tomorow and glue the whole thing together. We´ll see.

 

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Best wishes!

 

 

Daniel.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Daniel

Rather than using your finger so close to the sanding disk try using a hold down stick, safer.

Looks like it is fitting good.

 

Later 42rocker

Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while

Current Build -- Triton Cross Section

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Daniel,

I only just noticed this build log. Looks like you'have made a good start. Interesting stern jig, on the inside of the frames instead of the outside. Any particular reason for this? Seems to have worked out for you.

 

Regards,

Grant.

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Thank you all for answering! Three replies in day is World record in my log...

 

Thanks rocker for the advice. I did just to try and it will not happen again. I hold the piece using my finger nails, actually I look like a guitar player. They are quite helpful.

 

Pete I am not going to simulate the caulking. I´ll do it with the deck planking only. I don´t like the caulking stuff. I hope that with the finish with wax or tung oil (not decide yet) all the lines will come out. The joints are there!

 

Grant, The stern jig was a copy of the John´s and Bublehead logs from MSW 1.0. I separated the top of the upper jig 17.9cm. Jonh separated 16.5cm. If I have had to do it again I would use the three of them not just the upper one.

 

Back to the workshop! (my living room)

 

Thanks!

 

Daniel.

 

info about treenailing (copied from the Matrim´s notes)

1/48 scale Frames, no 61 bit (.039", 1mm), hull planking, no 76 bit (.020" .5mm), deck beams, knees, bitts, etc, no 68 bit (.031" .8mm), and for securing the frames and the keelson, a no 52 bit (.0625" 1.5mm) will do fine.

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And the thing is completed!! HU HA! (Chimo Bayo)

 

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Using a piece of glass has been very useful to ensure the whole piece is flat. I took it from a trash bin on the street. It´s amazing what we trash. I guess is this market economy we all live in. I did my way. (Frank Sinatra)

 

I have glued first all the #3 chocks, then I glued the #2 mainpiece to the #5 bobstay, then #1 + #1 gripes and then the whole thing. I have to repeat the #4 piece. Do not Know why but it does not fit. More scrap pieces!!

 

 

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Good Night!

 

 

Daniel.

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Nice job, Daniel.  Rest well, you deserve it.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Nice knee of the head. If I have to make such small pieces like the chock, I use a slightly bigger piece and cut only the first two or three sides to the correct size.

On the other side I let allways enough material for safe working. After glueing together I cut the last sides to the correct size.

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

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Hello all!

 

Here´s where I am on right now. In order to lay all the frames I have so far, I need to do the keel. Here are the pieces marked with pencil.

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It has reminded me someway the work I did back in 2011 with the pillars and the joist in my house. It´s amazing how things changed working from 1:1 to 1:48.

 

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Good Weekend!

 

 

Daniel.

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Hello All!

 

Small progress has been done during this week. Lots of party days, Saint Joseph, Saint Patrick and now the Easter ahead. To much kids arround and too less time to enjoy the hobby.

 

Anyway, I´ve completed the apron. First I cut the pieces as always from 8mm thick cherry timber. I´m using only cherry for the frames, keel, stern and stem. I´ll use some more wood but from time to time.

 

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Here is the order I followed gluing the different pieces. I have used again a glass surface to ensure the flatness of the pieces.

 

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Here is the result. I´m nut ungluing the paper patterns by the moment. In the other side I will use tracing paper again as I did cutting the steps on the stern. (See post # 3)

 

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Here is all the set. I have to fair a lot the whole thing. I am quite scared about how to sand the bow and the damn rabbet. How I miss the "Stickies" posts that used to be in the old MSW 1.0 snif snif...

 

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Best wishes to all and Happy Easter!

 

 

Daniel.

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