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Nice work on fairing. No rush as this a hobby.  :)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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Hola Amigos! (put it mexican accent like in the movies)

 

 

I will spend next week sand the exterior of the hull and cleaning all the patterns. Wish me luck!!

 

Well... It took me almost one month. :(

 

The worst part has been to remove all the patterns and PVA glue from the frames. I did it using just water and a brush wetting the frames (three or four at a time. Then with an x-acto blade I scrapped the glue or the pattern working extremely carefully trying not harm the wood...

 

here are some pics. Not in order.

 

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I have printed out the stern timbers and the lights. That´s where I am going to move on in order to make the main wales. I am kind of following Wang´s log.

 

Happy Sunday!

 

 

daniel.

 

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Hi Daniel!

 

Mighty fine work, looking very good. It might be a little late, but I use a glue that my wife gave me to try out for my patterns. It's for scrapbooking used to glue photos in her books. The great thing about it is that it holds very well but when your done with the cutting, it peals off very nicely without leaving anything on the wood. It's called Tombo Aqua. You put it on, let it dry a minute or two then put your patterns on. It's good stuff. Then when I'm finished cutting, I just use a little plastic scraper and it scrapes it off in one swipe with nothing left on the wood.

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Hello Randall!

 

Very acuarate work you have done this weekend. Nice transoms... And lots of pics (the logs I do like).

 

I have been using that glue for the Triton since I started on 2011. The problem I was refering to was the PVA. One thing is to remove a pattern when is a piece by itself on the table an another is to remove it when is glue and in place on the keel. Thanks for the info anyway...

 

Have a good modelling week!

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Hola Daniel,

I've just followed your log from start to finish and I must say, "Bravo Maestro". If you do not mind, I'd like to take a few ideas from your log and keep them for future reference on other builds.

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Great work you do!!! 

Your Triton :wub:  is great - thanks for sharing!

 

Stan

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Hello All!

 

Just a small update… Lot of Works around…

 

I´m dealing with the Port Stern timbers. I have started with the piece #3 which I think is the most complex.

 

I have started cutting the patterns and glue them to a piece of wood. Then sand it using the “Stern view” first and the side one (plant) to cut it with the scroll saw. I hope the pics below will explain the process.

 

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You can see clearly where is the error.  I have been thinking about plastering that joint but I think will be better to repeat the piece.

 

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The piece is not correct ( see pics marked with pencil) so I will have to repeat it. At least I have a “reference” piece and now I know how I have to cut it properly sand it more or less… trial and error.

Best wishes and happy modelling.

 

Daniel.

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Hello All!

 

Guy, It´s been almost a month of no work on the Triton and I miss her... ;) . I think the clue It´s to at least dedicate 1 hour a day every single week. By doing this is amazing how it grows... piece by piece.

 

happy modelling for all of you that can work on her!

 

 

daniel.

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Hello all!

 

Lot of work and no modelling... And the kid with scarlet fever! Five days ahead with him around... imagine! I have spent the whole day drawing the well where the pumb boxes will go.

 

The pdf is on post #122 on page #9.

 

 

Happy Days!

 

 

Daniel.

Info for me. edit post @121.

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Hello All!

 

I am just tired of posting nothing since a while... lots of work and studing to become a taxidriver... yep. An architect driving a taxi!! And of course "Spain it´s Different" so it looks like you have to be an ingeneer to just drive a taxi. Totally crazy.

 

Anyway, here are some pics of what I just can do. No dust no woodwork, only marking with pencil the main wale and the guns. Really tough work... measuring and measuring again and again.

 

here they are (it´s a really small update)

 

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Hola Daniel,

Your build is looking great. Do not worry about the amount of work you do. The Grand Canyon in Arizona was started with a single drop of water.

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Hi Daniel!

 

Mighty fine work, looking very good. It might be a little late, but I use a glue that my wife gave me to try out for my patterns. It's for scrapbooking used to glue photos in her books. The great thing about it is that it holds very well but when your done with the cutting, it peals off very nicely without leaving anything on the wood. It's called Tombo Aqua. You put it on, let it dry a minute or two then put your patterns on. It's good stuff. Then when I'm finished cutting, I just use a little plastic scraper and it scrapes it off in one swipe with nothing left on the wood.

Kelly, I like this and will have to tryit ! I normally use a stick glue and find that I do need to dampen the pattern to remove but the good part is not leaving any residue that will affect future finishes

Cheers, Guy
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Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line

 

 

 

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Hello Hello!

 

Finally something to post on… small progress due to my exam to become a taxi driver (I have failed twice). You can see the Madrid plan on the back. We´ll see the third attempt… fingers cross.

 

I am dealing with the main wale. I cut several planks to its size and length. 150mm divided on 3. 50 + 50 +50. The ends are 3mm and in the middle is 5mm (3) (50) - (5) - (100) (3). The planks are 3mm thick, quite difficult to bend. I soak them on cold water for 24h, then clamp them and let it dried for another day and then glue them with the clamps. By the way I put the shorter length of the plank aiming the stern which I think it´s an error. On AOS boob about the HMS Diana clearly it is seen than is the longest that goes on that way...

 

Here are some pics.

 

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I am also been thinking. Thinking a lot and reviewing my “research folder” I just found this pic:

 

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This is a long time project and it is consuming a lot of time. I do not even start to make the beams for the lower deck sooo I´ve decided to “cut” a little bit the project Otherwise I´m not sure if I’ll end this someday!! Beside I do see logs where they are having lots of fun with smaller (but complex) projects. I need to move on. I started this on 2011…

 

Here´s my aim. ->The pic above about the HMS Diana showing one side completed and the other almost “nude”. The portside with all the gun ports open (no guns) the main wale and the planking above it and only three planks under. The starboard with the frames intact and cutting some of them as shown on the picture. I have been always much more interested on the structural issue rather than have a symmetrical and beautiful ship made.

 

Wish me luck. Any comments and suggestions will be appreciated of course.

 

Happy modelling and summer ahead!

 

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Daniel.

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Hola Daniel,

I do not see anything wrong with taking ideas from the Diana and trying to make "your Triton" look like her. I truly believe that as long as you are happy with your progress, then that is all that really matters. "Usted es el Capitan de su barco" you are the captain of your ship.

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Daniel,

Your ideas sound good and proper if that works for you. Maybe you should have a go at a longboat or other part of the ship that has to be done at some point in the build as a side project. How about a go at the figure head? Plenty of different types of things to do on the Triton model......

 

On a side note, I hope you let that poor child out of the sand before the crabs start picking on him!  ;)

 

 

Richard

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Hello All and thanks for the coments! Really appreciate all of them...

 

I am still working with the main wale and I´ve started with the gun ports. Pretty tough stuff, measuring, chiseling, trying with one piece repeating again the same piece...

 

I have also make a pdf with the camber of the lower deck beams. I need to Know the space between the floor of the hold and the lower deck beam to start making the bulkheads of the different "rooms". I also need to put all the hooks and breast and mast bases so I´ll be working a lot these days.

 

Richard! I have been doing a "research" looking for good plans for a longboat, but nothing arround is relaible to me. I guess I will have to redraw one plan out of a AOS book or something.

 

here are some pics...

 

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I use a little mirror just to ensure that the plank is true to the frames.

 

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This was my first attempt. Gun port #8. I did a little bit os surgery cause I did the sarf too low on the upper beam.

 

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Using a square pine stick of wood is "must be". It really helps a lot.

 

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I used a clamp to avoid damaging the frames while I am sanding the frames. (up or down)

 

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Even with all the "care" one put on sanding there is always gaps, at least on my work. I glued small chips of wood, let´em dry and then trim them with a blade. All of this will be sand of course.

 

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Good luck!

 

 

Daniel.

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Hi again!

 

I don´t Know what is happening with the camera but all the pics look kind of blurry... I´ll clean the lens.

 

Here are some pics of how I make the lower deck beams and my pdf.

 

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I use a rasp to sand the up side and the down one.

 

Here´s the pdf. I have copied it from the plans are available.

 

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Happy summer and July 4th ahead!

 

Daniel.

 

 

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Looking sharp Daniel!

I think I am going to skip all of this work on the gunport joinery because on my model it will be covered with planking. Yours looks good though.

Is using the level for correct alignment working for you? I have thought of doing this too but with all the variables like the levelness of the floor, the work bench, the model, etc. I was not sure if the whole thing would come out correctly. I am going to opt for measuring from above.

Also, thank you for all of the PDF's you provide. Very helpful to me.

 

Happy 4th of July to all!

 

Richard

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Not that sharp Richard... believe me.

 

 

with all the variables like the levelness of the floor, the work bench, the model, etc.

 

To be honest all the scarfs has been done "to the eye". I try to make all the joints true to the frame avoiding the level of the model or the table, if it makes sense to me (the line I´ve marked) then I cut the scarf but always looking al the line true to the frame.

 

I do guess that working on 1:48 the aligment with the wood stick will work. (and it´s working) Hope my flat it´s still on level after ten years...

 

Next proyect I´ll use a "bridge" or something to meause from above like you and others, that´s for sure.

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Hola Maestro,

Your progress is looking amazing. A friend of mine has sent me frame drawings of the Essex and am planing to build a complete ship of her at 1:64. It is a little smaller than your Triton but I will use your log as a basis of building my Essex. Bueno mi amigo, I'll say good-bye for now.

 

Ray

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