ASAT Posted August 23, 2013 Share #1 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Well I asked KruginMi to re post his Harvey kitbash as it inspired me to do one, and he did, he also asked if I was going to post a log so here it is. I bought the kit in a kind of online garage sale - it must be a new version as about the only thing I wanted to use is the bulkheads and metal work/fittings. The kit came with alot of stuff pre made which looks pretty shabby so I am taking free licence to do it the way I want..... besides I am not a real stickler for historical accuracy - I like the way the woods look together and I give most of my models away to people that wouldn't know or care about the accuracy but they seem to enjoy the models..... I have substituted the kit wood with Boxwood, Pear, Holly, Bloodwood, Redheart and Bubinga so far. I'm still trying to work out the deck layout - this is where I was awed by Krug's version and I am deciding how much of his ideas I want to borrow? currently the model is at this stage.... Edited August 26, 2013 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted August 23, 2013 Here are some deck shots/detail.... need to work on my camera skills.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruginmi Posted August 26, 2013 Share #3 Posted August 26, 2013 Lou - that looks Great! Your planking looks very clean and I love the wood choices (a little jealous). Talk to me about your rudder box and what you intend there (might be borrowing right back....). I see it is time to bore out the bowsprit hole, good luck there. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted August 26, 2013 Share #4 Posted August 26, 2013 A Little Jealous - Quite an understatement there. Lou Very nice work! I too an curious about your rudder box. Also I am curious about your Bow planking below the wale. Keep the pictures coming! I see you plan to have some depth in the hold. Tell us about that too. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Thanks Guys, appreciate the kind words. The rudder box was just a way to cover my mistake when I drilled the rudder stem hole incorrectly I could have used a large diameter ring but I thought the box looked better. I saw something similar to that done on Fly or Pegasus and thought it was a good solution for my ham fistedness - I will probably put a "lid" on it after I replace the kit tiller with a carved one and rig it. And yes, I have been putting off drilling that bowsprit hole, although the planking is boxwood with pear bulwarks so it will carve fairly clean if I go slow! Not sure about your planking curiosity Floyd, it's pear which is a treat to work with and finishes beautifully - bends fairly easy too. The "depth" was just the way the center keel was cut in the kit - probably because the kit supplied gratings are more like window panes than grate holes - I plan on replacing the gratings as well - those fittings forward in the pics were just placed there, not glued yet... but I like the stairway shaft idea Mark used - I may borrow that as well! Lou Edited August 26, 2013 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted August 26, 2013 Share #6 Posted August 26, 2013 Lou - What I meant is could you give me a close up of your bow planking below the wale? Also as to depth did you cut the false keel or was that part of the kit? in your Pic it looks like you made room for a box under the hatch. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted August 26, 2013 Floyd, I will post a few pics when I get home tonight, the false keel was cut that way from AL Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted August 26, 2013 Share #8 Posted August 26, 2013 I like your ship Lou very nicely built, would like to see more as you go along Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted August 27, 2013 Floyd, here are the bow shots you asked about..... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) And here you can see all my mistakes..... Edited August 27, 2013 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted August 27, 2013 Share #11 Posted August 27, 2013 Lou - thanks a lot! it looks real good!! You did a great job tying the planks into the keel. Did you add the wale on top of the 2nd planking? I think I see a light colored Plank underneath. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted August 27, 2013 Yep, I added them after the second planking, still need to sand the wales a bit more...Tonight I drilled/carved the bowsprit hole and made the hawse cheeks (is that what they are called?) and fit them. Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainkangaroo Posted August 27, 2013 Share #13 Posted August 27, 2013 Lou, You are really doing an exceptionally good job, I'm really impressed. Quote Jim Current Build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2046-san-francisco-ii-by-jim-bassett-190-artesansia-latina/page-2#entry60556 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share #14 Posted August 29, 2013 Well it took me two days (nights) to build a windlass - this is the first one I have ever scratch built - I used some gears out of my rc servos and found a handle/lever in another kit I have for parts - I can't decide if the overall size is too big, I didn't have any plan to go by, so I used the pictures from Kruginmi and Blackies Harvey build logs....I reduced the size 3 times and I think I am just gonna go with it -maybe I could reduce the height of the side posts? Also do the spindle ends need some kind of "cap" or are they OK sticking out like that? Comments appreciated....... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted August 29, 2013 Share #15 Posted August 29, 2013 Lou - why don't you get yourself a helper? Create scale crew man if when he stands at the handles it is the right heights you got it. Nice work by the way. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassicBill Posted September 6, 2013 Share #16 Posted September 6, 2013 Very, very pretty. Lovely work! Quote Current build Andrea Gail (Billings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share #17 Posted September 21, 2013 Been working on the the deck layout some more, I made some more gratings with smaller grate holes .... and made a pump setup from some various parts I had laying around. I used some brass eyelets and straightened the flange for the lower section and glued a little brass fitting on top of that then drilled it for the output pipe and the actuator rods. I decided the stove location would be under the fwd hatch/grate so I stuck the kit chimney pipe in that one and made the large middle hatch a combo grate and solid removable boards.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share #18 Posted September 21, 2013 I then started on the deck house / companionway - made a drawing and shamelessly stole the one from Blackies build, not sure if that style is in the older kits or not but I liked it so I went with it. It took me the better part of a day to do it, made a shell from some 1/16" ply and then planked over it with bubinga and redheart framing accents. Was a pretty fun little piece to do... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share #19 Posted September 21, 2013 Also added some "fashion" pieces to the stern area to kinda tie that all together - and a few shots of the current full deck layout..... Still need to build a capstan for it - will be placed between the two grates.... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruginmi Posted September 21, 2013 Share #20 Posted September 21, 2013 Hey, looks like someone has actually been making some good progress! I like the stern fashion pieces and the deck house. I was targetting something very similar for my build (if I can finish all the house painting). Always good to see your work. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Posted September 22, 2013 Share #21 Posted September 22, 2013 Lou, I'm just coming aboard to see you very smart looking Harvey. The wood choices are excellent. I really like the way adjacent wood tones compliment each other. I'm a fan of bubinga and have rarely seen it on a model. It compliments the red heart well. Your windlass, bits, skylights and structures look very crisp. Cheers, Elia Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share #22 Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Thanks Mark, lots of things seem to compete for our hobby time right? Elia, good to hear from you, your Oneida has always been a benchmark build for me- I hope to get to a POF build one of these days..... Edited September 23, 2013 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share #23 Posted October 2, 2013 Finally got the capstan built, sandwiched some redheart discs together and made the whelps out of bubinga, also made the catheads and installed them. Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share #24 Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Also made and installed the pinrails and carved a tiller out of some redheart - didn't like the look of the painted casting. I'm thinking the deck layout is done.... I am considering a binnacle but I think it might get too crowded between the tiller / companionway area - what do you guys think? In any case, I am waiting for a set of Pride of Baltimore plans to arrive before I do the channels and the masting / rigging. Lou Edited October 2, 2013 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZyXuz Posted October 2, 2013 Share #25 Posted October 2, 2013 well done on the fittings, Lou Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruginmi Posted October 2, 2013 Share #26 Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) Lou, You have to include a binnacle! I wouldn't leave home without one (heard that in a commercial one day). The tiller will be belayed to the bulwarks and the steersman probably not standing right in front of it so I think you have room. As always, as captain you make the call. But I throw my hat into the get'r done column. BTW: Beautiful work as usual. You really knocked it out of the park with that tiller arm. Mark Edited October 2, 2013 by kruginmi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruginmi Posted October 2, 2013 Share #27 Posted October 2, 2013 Oh, don't be surprised if you are looking to use the PoB plans for the rigging, the amount and type of pinrails will be significantly changed. On my Lady Anne I had to significantly alter my deck tie downs to use them. mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share #28 Posted October 2, 2013 Thanks Mark, Guess I'll start on a binnacle. I am planning on doing a "revised " version of the rigging... more than the chintzy "plan" sheet shows but not a full PoB rig.... the standing rigging on the AL sheet is severely lacking, and there isn't much detail on the masting, I looking for it to be believable but not necessarily 100% accurate. I'll have to wait till I get the plans to see what I want to include/delete. Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted October 3, 2013 Share #29 Posted October 3, 2013 Did you kit have the sheaves for the catheads? Mine di it is a nice touch having copper pulleys in the catheads. I like your choice of woods. And yes a very nice tiller. Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share #30 Posted October 3, 2013 Thanks Floyd, nope my kit didn't have the sheaves and every thing I tried to make came out way too bulky..... but I was trying to use brass. Then I saw a post on one of the Confederacy logs I think where they used a tiny disc of wood and I think that would have worked but I had already installed them - learned something new for next time I guess.... The binnacle is done and now the crew is not doomed to being lost at sea - they wish to extend a big "Thank You" to Mark.... Now back to waiting for the plans from Model Expo...... Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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