Jim Lad Posted March 15, 2014 Share #121 Posted March 15, 2014 Bob, I've used that method on all my models that have hawse pipes through the hull. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 15, 2014 Share #122 Posted March 15, 2014 Michael, sounds like John did it first but he didn’t tell us which boat he did it on, and anyway I was hoping to follow your lead. Oh... as soon as the cap is glued I will take a stab at it pictures too. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share #123 Posted March 18, 2014 So now it’s time for the hawse holes and hawse pipes. One of the old pictures is looking straight down the hawse holes and it is taken from the top of the sampson post. I placed a yolk at the sampson post location and used it to guide the drill. I enlarged the holes to accept a brass tube 9” scale diameter. After flaring the outside, the tube was cut to length and an oval washer soldered to the inside. The last two photos show the bow sprit temporarily in place. I have to admit there was a problem the old picture was of the Lettie after the fore deck was raised. But my model has the fore deck lowered. So I drilled the hole in the wrong place and had to raise it to put it into the correct location. All good now. Next the chain plates. Bob Mirabell61, canoe21, Elia and 16 others 19 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 18, 2014 Share #124 Posted March 18, 2014 That looks excellent. The flare on the outside is perfect to my eye. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 19, 2014 Share #125 Posted March 19, 2014 Bob what an excellent job on the flare, that looks fantastic. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted March 19, 2014 Share #126 Posted March 19, 2014 Fantastic job. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior ole salt Posted March 19, 2014 Share #127 Posted March 19, 2014 Looks good from here..... maybe a little wear marks from chain paying out. S.os Quote New Bedford Whaleboat build. Kit by Model Shipways I've been making progress on my model and according to the instruction booklet I should be painting it, at least parts of it. Are acrylic's ok ? I did apply a sanding sealer. but I want to stain the untreated floor boards which are walnut. Thanks S.O.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 19, 2014 Share #128 Posted March 19, 2014 Excellent job there, Bob! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Posted March 19, 2014 Share #129 Posted March 19, 2014 Bob, Super job on the hawse hole and hawse pipe. That flared outer flange /lip looks outstanding. Very nice inner plate, too. Cheers, Elia Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share #130 Posted March 19, 2014 Russ, Michael, David B, S.os, John, Elia, Thank you all for the kind words. And thanks to those who click on “like”. I know how it is to not know what to say. Michael, Thanks for showing us how to make the flare on the pipe. I rounded the point of a nail and used that as the chasing tool. Not as nice as your tools, but it worked. S.os, Yes, I like working boats. Even when I sailed I always bought older boats. I don’t know if that’s because I feel they should look lived in or if I’m just not careful enough to make them look new. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 20, 2014 Share #131 Posted March 20, 2014 very nice job on the hawse hole.......now I see what you were getting at Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share #132 Posted March 20, 2014 Thanks Popeye. We all need help now and then. Bob popeye the sailor 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted March 21, 2014 Share #133 Posted March 21, 2014 Well executed. The lesson should be useful to many a schooner builder here. Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted March 21, 2014 Share #134 Posted March 21, 2014 your Lettie Looks great Bob, well done ! I am expecting a most beautiful created and built schooner under your Hands Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share #135 Posted March 21, 2014 Thanks Allan. That’s why I’m with MSW. To learn how to do this kind of thing. Nils, that’s what my admiral is expecting too. She already has a place for Lettie and says she wants to see lots of gold. So I won’t be painting the brass. Bob Mirabell61 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 21, 2014 Share #136 Posted March 21, 2014 So I won’t be painting the brass. My sentiments exactly. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share #137 Posted March 21, 2014 Just remembered. Now I have to go back and take the paint off the pintles and gudgeons. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share #138 Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) As I said before, “SHE wants GOLD”. Now I come to the cove that should be gold. I looked into gold leaf but not only is it expensive but I don’t need near that much. Yellow paint isn’t the same and I’ve never seen a gold paint that came close. Besides with my hands I could never paint a straight line. So here comes brass. All I have to do is fasten a strip of brass . . . but I read topics here saying how do you fasten brass to wood? There are probably many ways but here is how I did it. The stripe goes in the cove line or in my case where the thin bulwark strake and the wide strake meet. My plan was to solder .188” of the tip of several .024” brass plank nails to a .032” brass rod. This is still up in the bulwark area so fasteners had to be placed where the stations are. I drilled .020” holes into the stations. I measured the hole locations and soldered the nail tips at the same distances and found out that if you are off by even that little the brass rod doesn’t fit properly. On to plan B. I placed the nail tips in the holes leaving about .06” exposed. Then I soldered on the brass rod and pushed it tight against the wood. I then filed a flat on the exposed part of the brass to catch the light. Thanks for the help Nils. Bob Drilling for the nail tips. A nail tip pressed in, waiting for solder. Rod soldered to nail tip Edited March 22, 2014 by Cap'n'Bob themadchemist, usedtosail, mtaylor and 7 others 10 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 22, 2014 Share #139 Posted March 22, 2014 That looks pretty flash, Bob! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 22, 2014 Share #140 Posted March 22, 2014 Very sharp Bob, so is that some heat resistant paint that you used? Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted March 22, 2014 Share #141 Posted March 22, 2014 Nice soldering Bob. If you go to Michaels you will find metal leaf kits at a very decent price. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share #142 Posted March 23, 2014 Thanks John, that’s what she says also. Michael, the paint is acrylic covered with Pledge/Future. 60/40 solder and a low temp solder iron. Thanks for the info David, maybe next time. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 23, 2014 Share #143 Posted March 23, 2014 such a neat idea! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 23, 2014 Share #144 Posted March 23, 2014 Beautiful metal work Cap'n'Bob. Lettie's turning into one elegant lady with all the gold showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share #145 Posted March 23, 2014 Thanks Popeye. But I got help from the forum. Keith, I only hope it doesn't become a target for pirates. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted March 23, 2014 Share #146 Posted March 23, 2014 As I said before, “SHE wants GOLD”. Now I come to the cove that should be gold. I looked into gold leaf but not only is it expensive but I don’t need near that much. Yellow paint isn’t the same and I’ve never seen a gold paint that came close. Besides with my hands I could never paint a straight line. So here comes brass. All I have to do is fasten a strip of brass . . . but I read topics here saying how do you fasten brass to wood? There are probably many ways but here is how I did it. The stripe goes in the cove line or in my case where the thin bulwark strake and the wide strake meet. 26a typ frame small (Copy).jpg My plan was to solder .188” of the tip of several .024” brass plank nails to a .032” brass rod. This is still up in the bulwark area so fasteners had to be placed where the stations are. I drilled .020” holes into the stations. I measured the hole locations and soldered the nail tips at the same distances and found out that if you are off by even that little the brass rod doesn’t fit properly. On to plan B. I placed the nail tips in the holes leaving about .06” exposed. Then I soldered on the brass rod and pushed it tight against the wood. I then filed a flat on the exposed part of the brass to catch the light. Thanks for the help Nils. Bob IMG_0840 (Copy).JPG Drilling for the nail tips. IMG_0841 (Copy).JPG A nail tip pressed in, waiting for solder. IMG_0843 (Copy).JPG Rod soldered to nail tip IMG_0847 (Copy).JPG It Looks great Bob, can`t wait to see the fixed rods when pollished in Close ups... Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share #147 Posted March 23, 2014 Thanks Nils, I can't either. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted March 24, 2014 Share #148 Posted March 24, 2014 You might just have given me some ideas there Bob, excellent! Steve captainbob 1 Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share #149 Posted March 24, 2014 You might just have given me some ideas there Bob, excellent! Steve I joined the forum to get ideas. Turns out when I learn others do to. Bob themadchemist, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 24, 2014 Share #150 Posted March 24, 2014 I joined the forum to get ideas. Turns out when I learn others do to. Bob and Steve this seems to be the order of the day. Michael mtaylor, themadchemist and captainbob 3 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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