shipmodel Posted March 19, 2014 Share #811 Posted March 19, 2014 Beautiful work on the triple block. The lettered cover plate is a brilliant touch. Dan Quote Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS Oneida, Swan 42 racing yacht, Queen Anne's Revenge (1710), SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914), James B Colgate (1892), POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas "Take big bites. Moderation is for monks." Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted March 19, 2014 Share #812 Posted March 19, 2014 Wow! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 19, 2014 Share #813 Posted March 19, 2014 Every part of this boat is so well done it would be nice to have that “I shrunk the kids” machine to become small enough to sail her yourself. As for sail winch I saw a 5 foot boat, with big sails, where the owner used a reversing screwdriver/drill with a torque control for the winch. I'm sure you'll work something out. Bob Bedford and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth Powell Posted March 19, 2014 Share #814 Posted March 19, 2014 Fantastic work. It's been said here before but worth repeating - Reading through your log is like reading a 'Wooden Boat' issue. Oh Wait! This is a real boat and you're just telling us it's a model. Kenneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted March 20, 2014 Share #815 Posted March 20, 2014 Nice blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 20, 2014 Share #816 Posted March 20, 2014 Just like a bought one, Michael! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 20, 2014 Share #817 Posted March 20, 2014 Ye gads! Lovely detail, Michael. Just as well she's not a three masted square rigger. You'd be building blocks forever! Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share #818 Posted March 21, 2014 Thank you all for your kind remarks and for all those who pushed the like button. I did a little work today on the bracket to hold the main-sheet tackle to the deck. First some sketches after looking at a few on the web. the block of brass was 2 inches by 1/2 inch by 7/8th inch. using a 5/16 ball end I roughed out the main block. Then with files after the rest of the machining got the block to the final shape. A little more work with finer files and some wet and dry sandpaper then a buff in the dremmel A pin machined down from some 3/16th with a 2x56 thread for the cap end. Next the central unit that will be sandwiched between some rubber buffers each side, that the shackle and lower block attach to. Michael themadchemist, mtaylor, newbuilder101 and 19 others 22 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor1234567890 Posted March 21, 2014 Share #819 Posted March 21, 2014 Beautiful metal work. Simply astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiel Posted March 21, 2014 Share #820 Posted March 21, 2014 really love that block Quote Finished models: Botter, President Current: Prins Willem by the book of Ketting, HMS Beagle - OcCre restauration of a Statenjacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugra Posted March 21, 2014 Share #821 Posted March 21, 2014 Michael, nothing to say for your metal work. Just shocking! Thanks! Bugra. Quote There is nothing that a little sanding can't solve.. Bugra. Current Builds : H.M.S. Triton Cross Section by Bugra - 1/48 Turkish Traditional Ship - Surmene Takasi by Bugra - 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 21, 2014 Share #822 Posted March 21, 2014 Michael........the Metal Maniac......hmmmmm, has a nice ring to it sweet stuff! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share #823 Posted March 22, 2014 I had posted this last night but.... Again thanks for all the positive comments and for the likes. Yesterday I finished up the deck part of the main sheet tackle. first I used some rubber like insulation from some heavy wire. I slipped about 3/4 of an inch onto some 1/8th inch diameter brass rod and parted it off into some 1/4 inch long sections. then made the small sliding part after grinding up a form milling cutter. after fitting it up I spent the rest of the day making the two single blocks and fitting them to the deck. I swung out the boom to finish threading the rope plus I wanted to see how much rope I would need it turned out to be almost 18 feet, with about 1 foot laying on each side of the cockpit as part of that distance. All I need to do to finish the main sheet control now is to add either a couple of cleats to the deck or to set in some bits and also to fit a proper bit of hardware to the boom. I have also been looking at the whole way the rudder assembly is fitted and the way it penetrates the deck. The tiller attachment area is a bit small and I don't like the fact that it is fixed. Michael Bedford, EdT, popeye the sailor and 15 others 18 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAd My Fingers Posted March 22, 2014 Share #824 Posted March 22, 2014 Absolutely gorgeous work, Michael--your craftsmanship never ceases to amaze me! Would love to spend time in your shop learning the underlying techniques and skills you bring to your work!! Cheers, Jay popeye the sailor 1 Quote Current Build: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 22, 2014 Share #825 Posted March 22, 2014 Yes, the sheet takes a lot of rope and multiplies every time it passes through the blocks. I can almost imagine myself walking that deck and getting ready to sail. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted March 22, 2014 Share #826 Posted March 22, 2014 Yet another installment of your stunning work! It doesn't seem to matter whether you are working with wood or metal - it's all beautiful! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 22, 2014 Share #827 Posted March 22, 2014 Michael I so much enjoy reading of your latest R&D. I take so much useful knowledge from seeing your creative abilities at work. Thanks for sharing, seeing the parts made as real working models helps to understand the physics of the rig and how it works. From a person the was completely ignorant of anything about ship/boat rigging when 2013 started, I have come a very long way in my understanding. I can only get so much understanding from reading, your build log has given me not just the visual finished product, but the processes of how its made, why its made that way and how it is ultimately used. A perfect example would be the picture of the block assembly. The one picture where you show the line clearance... I always just thought the opening to have equal distances between the block and sheave, but I now see that the opening is only opened for the line and close on the opposite side. The light bulb went off as to how much stronger this would make a block assembly. The realization of this asymmetry in the horizontal plane of the block assemble was just an example of why I find your build log SO OUTSTANDING. Please know that your mentorship to so many of us is greatly appreciated. I stopped rigging my pilot boat build as I wish to modify the kit inaccuracies and am watch your masterful work as an online apprenticeship of sorts. I really like the personalized block brass piece. Such an amazing touch. Every time I leave your log I think, ok what else can Michael do that will be more amazing and without fail I always come back to see a job that just keeps becoming more engrossing. Your build log is like a great novel that comes in installments and one can't wait to see what happens next. Be well my friend. captainbob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted March 22, 2014 Share #828 Posted March 22, 2014 I think "Wow" seems an appropriate comment! John Bedford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSoane Posted March 22, 2014 Share #829 Posted March 22, 2014 Hi Michael, Your metal parts are so well done they look full scale; until I see your hand in the photo. Exceptionally well done! Mark Quote Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share #830 Posted March 23, 2014 Would love to spend time in your shop learning the underlying techniques and skills you bring to your work!! Cheers, pop by anytime Jay the tea kettle is always on. I can almost imagine myself walking that deck and getting ready to sail. One of my own little fantasies Bob. It doesn't seem to matter whether you are working with wood or metal Sherry I love working with both materials, the beauty of boat models is the variety of materials that one gets to work with. your build log has given me not just the visual finished product, but the processes of how its made, why its made that way and how it is ultimately used. Keith thank you for you very nice commentary about my build log. One of the most important things for me is to understand the how and why of what I am making and if my account of what I am making is helpful then the sharing is worth the time it takes. I feel so much more informed from all the amazing builds on this forum that my own knowledge expands every day I log in. John Thanks for your kind words they look full scale; until I see your hand in the photo Ah mark its all smoke and mirrors. Thanks for the compliment. Today was a fun day I finally finished the main sheet attachment to the boom. First I did a forging test with some 1/4 inch brass stock I necked down about 3/4 of an inch to about 1/8th leaving a 1/4 inch long full diameter at the end. this was annealed and forged on the railroad anvil four times to flatten out the end. After seeing that the forging would work for what I needed, a length of 1/4 inch rod was cut to 2 1/2 inch length with the centre necked down to the 1/8th diameter. both end were then forged to the same shape as the test piece on the railroad track anvil. after bending the curve into the smaller diameter (if I were to make another I would make it about 1/4 inch shorter) the unit was set up in the vice for drilling. A block of maple the same width as the boom was sandwiched between the ends to support the brass flange while the holes were drilled and then counter-bored to create flats in the slightly tapering flattened flange. The centre hole is 1/8th to allow a brass Chicago screw to replace the pin holding the clew out-haul sheave. next the hole was reamed to ensure they were aligned. after clean up. removing the temporary pin. fixing the new tackle Done Michael Bedford, mtaylor, TBlack and 14 others 17 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 23, 2014 Share #831 Posted March 23, 2014 Looks delightful. You are a master in metal, Michael! Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 23, 2014 Share #832 Posted March 23, 2014 Just fantastic work, Michael. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted March 23, 2014 Share #833 Posted March 23, 2014 Again, beautifully made Michael, lessons being learned left, right and centre here. Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted March 23, 2014 Share #834 Posted March 23, 2014 Brilliant!!! Remco Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 23, 2014 Share #835 Posted March 23, 2014 so cool Michael.......... in so many ways, a life-like replica! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 23, 2014 Share #836 Posted March 23, 2014 I like how every piece you build is a model all by its self. All put together they create something so much more as each part has a life of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSoane Posted March 23, 2014 Share #837 Posted March 23, 2014 Michael, Just scale up those metal fitting to full size, and you could open a boat chandler shop. Can you do a line in flotation devices? ;-) Forging--beyond my comprehension how you do it, and do it so well. Mark Quote Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share #838 Posted March 23, 2014 Again thank you all for the kind comments and for all the likes. Forging--beyond my comprehension how you do it, and do it so well. Mark To answer you question, The original test piece was annealed at the other end. then a small hammer was used to flatten the end after about 6 or 7 blows the brass has become work hardened After a second annealing and another 6 or 7 hammer blows the step was repeated because again the brass becomes work hardened a third time for the annealing and another 10 or so blows, as the metal flattens a larger area needs to be hammered so it takes more blows, the weight or force of each blow remains pretty constant from the beginning to this this point, one gets into a rhythm just like any other repetitive task. A fourth time was repeated as before, to get the new end similar to the first. on this test piece (I did not accurately measure both full diameter lengths at each end because they were done at different times, on the piece that is attached to the boom the ends were both turned before the flattening to ensure the same volume of material would squash out.) After a clean up with the wire wheel the centre portion is annealed to soften it to be bent around a piece of rod. The rod diameter need to be close to the final shape because there is very little spring to the brass after it is annealed, as it is bent it begins to work harden again which is good because the final shape needs to be hardened enough to retain its shape. the aluminum scrap here is 1 inch in diameter next a smaller diameter piece of wood was used, it was a conveniently smaller diameter, to close in the ends a little tighter than the main curve then the piece was squeezed onto the block of maple that I used for the final one that is on the boom this was so that the drilling could be done without the piece deforming any more. The drilling was explained in the last entry in the build log. I hope this helps to see how easy some of these tasks are when you break them down into their small steps. 1 Turn to diameter 2 heat to soften (annealing brass, heat to red then quench in cold water) 3 shape with hammer 4 reheat , as many times as needed to gain the desired amount of flattening 5 shape to final form 6 machine holes and finish shaping with files. 7 polish with emery and steel wool. Michael themadchemist, Aussie048, Calhoun Zabel and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior ole salt Posted March 23, 2014 Share #839 Posted March 23, 2014 I and I assume many others appreciate your posting with images on this form. It's kind of being there in your shop and working alongside you. Mike, thanks once again. S.os Quote New Bedford Whaleboat build. Kit by Model Shipways I've been making progress on my model and according to the instruction booklet I should be painting it, at least parts of it. Are acrylic's ok ? I did apply a sanding sealer. but I want to stain the untreated floor boards which are walnut. Thanks S.O.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted March 23, 2014 Share #840 Posted March 23, 2014 Beautiful metal work Micheal, I can imagine the fun you have in creating those lovely Fittings Well done ! Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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