HIPEXEC Posted July 29, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 29, 2014 Does anyone glue or fix their deck guns so the deck remains neat? Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 29, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 29, 2014 Rich, I daresay most of us do. Some even add the additional step of putting a pin through the carriage and into the deck. testazyk and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm tar Posted July 29, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 29, 2014 Rich, I would say yes, and also pin them. The latter can be achieved, by a strategically placed pin under the centre of each axle, such that it is not visible from the outside. A light smear of glue on the trucks can also help. It is probably advisable to fix the guns down to prevent subsequent any movement, particularly under a deck where they can't later be reached. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Kester Current builds: Sherbourne (Caldercraft) scale – 1/64th; Statsraad Lehmkuhl (half model) 1/8th" – 1'. Victory Bow Section (Panart/Mantua) scale – 1/78th (on hold). Previous build: Bluenose ll (Billings) scale – 1/100th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testazyk Posted July 30, 2014 Share #4 Posted July 30, 2014 Yes, otherwise they are never where they are supposed to be. I like Mark's idea because you don't want the slightest trace of glue under the trucks. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Tom Current: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas Previous builds: AL Swift, AL King of the Mississippi, Mamoli Roter Lowe, Amati Chinese Junk, Caesar, Mamoli USS Constitution, Mantua HMS Victory, Panart San Felipe, Mantua Sergal Soleil Royal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 30, 2014 Share #5 Posted July 30, 2014 I must have mis-typed.. Most of us glue the trucks to the deck and then pin much as Kester says. I did see one, maybe back on DDM, that had a small block of wood between the carriage and the deck instead of pinned. The block was painted flat black to hide it. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB40 Posted July 30, 2014 Share #6 Posted July 30, 2014 I intend to use some #0 x 3/8" wood screws I purchased to secure the gun carriages to the deck on my 1:75 scale Unicorn for all the deck guns that will be inaccessible once the quarter deck is in situ. These micro screws will be out of sight on the mounted guns. I am even considering drilling the underside of the barrels and inserting a brass pin to securing them to the carriage. If any of these guns break loose,whilst further work proceeds,they would be nigh on impossible to reattach without making a complete mess working through the 10 x 10mm gun ports. John HIPEXEC and testazyk 2 Quote John Current Build: USF Confederacy 1778 by JohnB40 - Model Shipways - 1:64 scale HMS Unicorn Corel 1:75 HULKED Completed Builds: Golden Hind Scientific Models -- Swift 1:50 Artesania Latina -- Le Hussard 1:50 Artesania Latina -- Halifax 1:35 Robbe -- Armed Launch 1803 1:17 Panart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testazyk Posted July 30, 2014 Share #7 Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Hi John, that might sound like overkill but I agree with you that a belt and suspenders approach is a good idea for something as critical as the guns. I move my completed models a lot and like to have everything as secure as possible. Edited July 30, 2014 by testazyk HIPEXEC 1 Quote Tom Current: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas Previous builds: AL Swift, AL King of the Mississippi, Mamoli Roter Lowe, Amati Chinese Junk, Caesar, Mamoli USS Constitution, Mantua HMS Victory, Panart San Felipe, Mantua Sergal Soleil Royal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted July 30, 2014 Share #8 Posted July 30, 2014 As well as a central pin,one trick that works well,that I learnt from Keith Julier's books,is to drag the complete carriage very lightly over abrasive paper on a flat surface.This puts a tiny flat on each wheel,you can apply a little glue to these flats and it is not visible when fitted.For some reason the carriages look better as they seem fitted rather than hovering on the surface,I can't explain why,it must be one of those tricks on the eye Kind Regards Nigel JohnB40, mtaylor and HIPEXEC 3 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted July 31, 2014 Thanks for the very detailed answers. I pinned the two guns on my first model and they still pivot on the pin. So I guess I'll glue as well as pin. Thanks Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm tar Posted July 31, 2014 Share #10 Posted July 31, 2014 Thanks for the very detailed answers. I pinned the two guns on my first model and they still pivot on the pin. So I guess I'll glue as well as pin. Thanks Try using two pins per gun. HIPEXEC 1 Quote Kester Current builds: Sherbourne (Caldercraft) scale – 1/64th; Statsraad Lehmkuhl (half model) 1/8th" – 1'. Victory Bow Section (Panart/Mantua) scale – 1/78th (on hold). Previous build: Bluenose ll (Billings) scale – 1/100th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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