ianmajor Posted January 17, 2016 Share #1171 Posted January 17, 2016 Dafi, From your photo you appear to be "going at it hammer and tongs" (or at least pliers) which is an old UK blacksmithing related phrase meaning going at something really fast and hard. I am intrigued by the character watching over you past your left ear. dafi and mtaylor 2 Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 17, 2016 Share #1172 Posted January 17, 2016 I spotted him yesterday on avgerman forum. After long thinking, i have concluded it is dafi's version of the statue of liberty:) Jan ianmajor, CaptainSteve, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share #1173 Posted January 17, 2016 And now, its Hammer Time! That is the result of well planned building activities. In the old days I fixed the standing knees without being able to level the upper edge, now that I can, the deck is quite clattered with other activities ... ... time to get out the heavy tools for some desperate measures. The blade laid over the now existing beams and with some persuasiveness of the hammer (or tweezers as they are smaller) split the knees to pieces. After the first trials I replaced the hammer with better dosed hand enforcement and it worked wonders. The bounty was rewarding. Almost no collateral damages, just some sailors looked a bit down, but they are already up to their feet again :-) Cheers, Daniel Kevin, docidle, robin b and 7 others 10 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmajor Posted January 17, 2016 Share #1174 Posted January 17, 2016 Good heavens Dafi. You are worse than I am for attacking your ship with shovels and rakes and implements of destruction! CaptainSteve, riverboat, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share #1175 Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) ... oh Ian, you know, I did not even start yet ... ... ... breaking bad ;-) XXXDAn Edited January 18, 2016 by dafi popeye the sailor, amateur, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 19, 2016 Share #1176 Posted January 19, 2016 blow torch.....jack hammer........no problem! keen to see what your idea is mtaylor 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 24, 2016 Share #1177 Posted January 24, 2016 Dafi I just love following your work mtaylor 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcatkt Posted January 24, 2016 Share #1178 Posted January 24, 2016 Every single time I check this build I get excited and terrified to start my one. I know that I will be ordering every Dafi option before I start, already started collecting copper sheeting etc. I don't expect to be near this level but you have certainly more than shown what is possible despite limitations of the kit. Amazing. Simply amazing work and research. mtaylor, CaptainSteve, Kevin and 2 others 5 Quote 1775 / 1893 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share #1179 Posted January 25, 2016 Thank you Popeye, Kevin and Orca! And Orca - just do it ! ;-) XXXDAn mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share #1180 Posted January 26, 2016 Statement 1: dafi is torturing wood. For the first time I was bending watered wood with the soldering iron - fascinating for a stubborn plastinator how willingly even 3 x 3 mm battens take the right turn :-) And why this? Originally planned were 5 deck beams to hold the upper deck, but for some unknown reasons the number of deck beams became larger ... The other deck beams are forced into the curve by the stanchions, but if those are missing ? Statement 2: Holes that mean the world - at least to me ;-) As already seen midships, where the anchor cable is disappearing towards the hold ... ... one can nicely see ... ... how much ladders and stanchions are in the way if it is to work there. So using swift the jack ... ... and lift the deck beam - and with it all the upper decks - some inches or so, take out the ladders and stanchions ... ... and all that is left on the deck are some small holes and plenty of space to work. Now I too understood the short arms of the jack - it allows to go near the stanchions or even the hull. And as my new deck beams are already fitted with a nice curve, they stay nicely up as they should. Thinking about the color of the space underneath the stanchions, I believe that the wood in itself possibly stayed with a lighter color, but with all the muck from cleaning that went underneath I opted for a dark brown. So I prepared the taken out stanchions ... ... pimped them up ... ... and cluttered them together with the ladders behind the companionway. Looked pittoresk, but not really Bristol fashion, so I preferred the following solution :-) Question: How were the ladders - if in place - secured on the deck? Was there there chocks or wedges or something nailed to the planks? Cheers, Daniel PS: Do not worry on the first pictures, there is no fire in the hold. Just a small ball of wad is doing wonders against the unsought will of certain parts that strongly do believe that their future should be in the hold :-) mtaylor, clearway, paulsutcliffe and 13 others 16 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 26, 2016 Share #1181 Posted January 26, 2016 Did health and safety not object to ladders that sometimes where not where everyone expected them to be? Jan riverboat, dafi, Altduck and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share #1182 Posted January 26, 2016 Do not worry Jan, I already projected a ramp for easy wheel chair access beside ;-) XXXDAn lambsbk, amateur, clearway and 6 others 9 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share #1183 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) And todays Oscar for best suspense goes to ... ... dafi ... Edited January 30, 2016 by dafi justsayrow, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 30, 2016 Share #1184 Posted January 30, 2016 Suspense, why?? You probably are destroying something already build, Replacing it by something unbeleivebly better And them ask for more kudo's Jan foxy, dafi, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share #1185 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) And the Oscar for best destruction sequence goes to ... ... dafi ... Edited January 31, 2016 by dafi foxy, mtaylor, riverboat and 2 others 5 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 31, 2016 Share #1186 Posted January 31, 2016 Where's the pictures on the split screen? Who else was nominated? Was there a fist fight in the audience when the winner was announced? So, we need to see the award... And hear the speech... justsayrow, foxy, dafi and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 31, 2016 Share #1187 Posted January 31, 2016 Im worried about the fire below, hope you dont loose the supply of tic tacs CaptainSteve, mtaylor, Altduck and 1 other 4 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share #1188 Posted January 31, 2016 Oh yes the spech, Mark - still in the phase of having to peep away most of the expressions ... Do not worry Kev, all Tic Tacs are all doing well! So Jan, kudo now! XXXDAn amateur, mtaylor, Altduck and 1 other 4 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share #1189 Posted January 31, 2016 ... no words ... ... XXXDAn mtaylor, foxy, docidle and 2 others 5 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted January 31, 2016 Share #1190 Posted January 31, 2016 Explain please. This is the messenher, together with the capstan, but why, why why?? Jan dafi and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share #1191 Posted January 31, 2016 Naughty-naughty-messenger, naughty! ;-) XXXDAn amateur and mtaylor 2 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 1, 2016 Share #1192 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Thanks, that makes things clear Having loked at the before and after pictures, i would say that no-one would ever have notied the difference, let alone would have noticed your first version was a bit 'out of period' Jan Edited February 1, 2016 by amateur mtaylor and dafi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share #1193 Posted February 1, 2016 Naughty-naughty-messenger, naughty! When I first installed the messenger I was opting for the display in Portsmouth, showing a left handed rope as described by Nares for later periods. Now much time later, I have not yet found a source for this setup in the period around 1800. Here are the two cables to compare. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share #1194 Posted February 1, 2016 That´s why Ms. Cyrus inspired me ... ... using the wrecking ball and ... ... even though fully dressed taking carefully out the components in question. Luckily the nippers were fixed the right way and ... ... could get off easily. Just call me a smart Nipper :-) The original build was shown in details, so we have only a fast tour of the changes The lashing of the messenger ... ... the rolls to guide the messenger around the bows and the guy with the hose to water the incoming anchor cable and the boys to clewan it with a brush. The bosums mate surveys those 4 gents nipping the two cables ... überwacht diese vier Herren beim Befestigen der Nippers, der Taustücke, welche Kabelaar und Ankerkabel zusammenhalten ... ... while these man escort the cables backwards ... ... and those to open the nippers for the anchor cable to disappear in the hold. I gave a bit more space to those gents by taking out the pillars in that area. popeye the sailor, Barbossa, robin b and 9 others 12 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share #1195 Posted February 1, 2016 The messenger still moves backwards and changes direction on those solid stanchions ... ... towards the capstan ... ... and the strain of the pulling already worked the messenger up the drum. Behind the capstan 3 gents are pulling the rope clear ... ... in that area I placed two more stanchions as they are out of the way and on the rest of the track ... ... some other gents make sure that the messenger is moving swiftly forwards again. Cheers, Daniel mtaylor, Mirabell61, robin b and 11 others 14 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 1, 2016 Share #1196 Posted February 1, 2016 Well.. at least we didn't have to shoot the messenger. Just replace him. I'll go quietly now... oh.. there's my coat.. And a little happy dance for all this deconstruction and re-construction.... popeye the sailor, foxy, CaptainSteve and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted February 1, 2016 Share #1197 Posted February 1, 2016 Nice bit of reconstruction Daniel. Will you ever get to the next deck I wonder. A life times work and well worth it in my view,' well done sir'. foxy CaptainSteve, mtaylor and Rainbow 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orcatkt Posted February 1, 2016 Share #1198 Posted February 1, 2016 Is this the new year new destruction plan? Not sure about this plan, seems to lead to making the rest of us even more jealous! dafi and mtaylor 2 Quote 1775 / 1893 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 2, 2016 Share #1199 Posted February 2, 2016 would there be sailors tending the capstan while this is going on? interesting that it's the messenger that is wound 'round the capstan and not the anchor rope itself........to be honest, until I came to this site, I was not sure how this process worked. you've done well in shedding light on the process. mtaylor and dafi 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted February 2, 2016 Share #1200 Posted February 2, 2016 Hi Dafi, there`s real life action on your decks,.........looks wonderful with all those little guys Nils dafi, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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