rummy Posted March 27, 2013 Share #31 Posted March 27, 2013 Nice frames and the jig looks great. Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long9Ron Posted March 28, 2013 Share #32 Posted March 28, 2013 Marius Yes, nice looking frame jig. That's one thing that I didn't do. Wish I had. Your build is looking great. Looking forward to seeing more. Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share #33 Posted March 29, 2013 Three frames raised thanks to the good wishes from you all. Spend the glue drying time to make myself a mini bench saw based on my lathe which is the remains of an Emco Rex combination machine that fell off my truck .My old 10 Inch Rockwell is just not accurate enough for modelling. the learner, Chris and harvey1847 3 HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted March 29, 2013 Share #34 Posted March 29, 2013 Frame raising is looking great and that homemade table saw looks very accurate nice job on both Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted March 29, 2013 Share #35 Posted March 29, 2013 Marius, I think you're at an exciting point in the build. Those look like Cracker-Jack frames, top draw as a Brit friend of my would say. 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted March 30, 2013 Share #36 Posted March 30, 2013 marius Your table saw looks great and your frames look great also. Good Luck with the rest. Later 42rocker Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 30, 2013 Share #37 Posted March 30, 2013 Looks great Marius. You might think about putting spacers near the top of the frames (between or just above the gunports works well) to hold everything in position during fairing. The spacers can then either be planked over or removed when you're done. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share #38 Posted April 3, 2013 All framed up with spacer Blocks glued in. There is one frame that is going to give me fairing problems. Contemplated redoing but I used epoxy glue on frames and Keelson. Will have to find a way to get around it. HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted April 3, 2013 Share #39 Posted April 3, 2013 Give yourself a toast.... the frame raising is done. Looking good... now on to the fun job of sanding...sanding...sanding... Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share #40 Posted April 3, 2013 A man at my age should get somebody to do it for him. Sanding is for me the worst part of modelling. Especially since I am not very good at fairing. But its got to be done. HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey1847 Posted April 3, 2013 Share #41 Posted April 3, 2013 cHEERS!! Pretty sure you will do the fairing fine. Good work. Keep going! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rummy Posted April 3, 2013 Share #42 Posted April 3, 2013 Wow very nice frames.Marius my problem with sanding is I never know when to quit but I have learned to stop before I get to the other side. Your doing great. Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted April 5, 2013 Share #43 Posted April 5, 2013 Congratulations Marius on reaching this milestone. It's looking great! Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston Completed Build Logs: USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share #44 Posted April 5, 2013 Thanks Guys. Fairing nearly done. Had to go a bit thin on a couple of frames. Woud'nt like to put her on the water. Just paying now for not leaving enough leeway on the frames. HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share #45 Posted April 27, 2013 I have been quit but not totally idle.Had a cataract operation with a bit of a complication but now OK again. Planked the inner Hull up to Lower Deck Clamps. I must have been careless with my measurements when resawing the planks and creeping error made me lose one plank. Otherwise I am not too unhappy with the results. Started on the deck beams and also the cannons just to prevent boredom. Gun barrel turned out of embuia which is a dark and dense wood. Not quite happy with the dimensions of the barrel. will redo. Paddy and Chris 2 HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted April 27, 2013 Share #46 Posted April 27, 2013 Marius..Glad to here your operation turned out okay The planking looks very nice....I really like the contrast between the light and dark woods.... Gun carriages look nice also.....The barrell dimensions does look a little large... (just my opinion) I have not looked at the gun prints yet And I like your idea for bending the deck beams..... will file that one back to use when I get to that stage Keep up the good work and looking forward to more. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share #47 Posted April 27, 2013 Hi Pete Thanks for the comment. I was more interested in seeing if the embuia wood would work as i have no metal turning facilities. It is really only the back part that ooks a bit heavy. Will get it right. marius Pete38 1 HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted April 27, 2013 Share #48 Posted April 27, 2013 The planking looks very good. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long9Ron Posted April 27, 2013 Share #49 Posted April 27, 2013 Planking looks very nice. Good job Marius. Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted April 28, 2013 Share #50 Posted April 28, 2013 Marius, that embuia wood you turned the cannon with looks very good. Also, as Pete mentioned, I too like your beam bending jig. 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share #51 Posted April 28, 2013 Thanks for the comments guys. The embuia turns very well on the lathe. After sanding I just burnished it very lightly with a stick. I tried at first to do the bending round nails driven into a piece of scrap but they came out with an uneven curve. I took the first ones out of this jig and they look great. marius HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share #52 Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Hi Made some headway the last week. Planking done on the outside. South African Yellowwood. I am leaving the strip on the port side open to show the frame structure. Just wiped some sanding sealer on the planking for Protection. Also started on the framing for the lower deck. South African White Pear for the beams and Japanese Birch for the Carlings and Ledges. Embuia for the wales. All natural colours and resawn from scrap timber. I seem to have lost some camber on the Beams. Maybe my bending method is not suitable for the White Pear. Edited May 12, 2013 by marius Chris and fatih79 2 HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted May 12, 2013 Share #53 Posted May 12, 2013 Really nice. Your section looks really good. Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted May 12, 2013 Share #54 Posted May 12, 2013 Very nice work....Like the open section showing the nice frames..... Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted May 12, 2013 Share #55 Posted May 12, 2013 Marius, she's looking very good. That's interesting about losing some of the camber in the pear wood. I still think your jig for setting the beams is a good one and like you say maybe it's just the wood. I haven't decided the wood I'll use for the beams myself, although I'm using cherry for the frames and may try to stay with it. I'm thinking its a good time to make the jig and begin testing some wood to see how well it holds the camber. Maybe I’ll try setting the pattern to over bend just a tad. 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share #56 Posted May 12, 2013 Hi Christian, Pete & Paddy Thanks for the comments. Paddy I think my mistake was in soaking the beams in hot water for only 10 mins. Overbending slightly also seems a good idea. Shall soak for at least 1 hour in future. I also forgot to mention that I made the tenoned joints in situ. I personally feel better when I can see where the joint has to go instead of getting nasty surprises later. I have not been able to get Exacto knives here. The local variety of blades I find to flexible fo accurate cutting. Will have to find suitable alternatives. As you can see I have not done any treenailing. Cannot find drawplates for wood among our local merchants. One must remember that the market for specialised hobby tools is very limited in South Africa. Too late for the ceiling planks. But I will experiment with other methods to find a solution. HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share #57 Posted May 12, 2013 Duplicated one photo. Replaced it with the correct one marius HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted May 12, 2013 Share #58 Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Maruis, if I may, check to see if Excel blades are available to you. They are far superior to Exacto IMO and come in the usually assortment from #11 to chisel types. A suggestion about the treenails. I am fortune enough to have a Byrnes draw plate which I am using to pull .039 bamboo nails for the frames but I have started testing the possibility of using colored paste for wood for smaller treenails and those that maybe difficult to reach. After applying one coat of finish I drill the hole and then fill with the paste, which is non-harding, wipe the excess off with a soft cloth, then put another finish coat over that. In this case I have been using Watco’s Danish Oil Neutral. I’m liking how this looks so far and will try more tests using larger bores of .039. Just a thought you may want to test. P.S. Thanks for the recommendation to increase the soak time of the timber. Edited May 12, 2013 by Paddy 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42rocker Posted May 12, 2013 Share #59 Posted May 12, 2013 marius Your doing great with this. Like the different wood colors. Later 42rocker Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share #60 Posted May 12, 2013 Thanks Rocker Paddy thanks for your input. Will try the fake treenails with some filler that is for sale here. Marius. HMS TRITON cross section marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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