greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Share #1 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Well its been 3 months since I could start a new model build, spent that time adding a breakfast room to our house and boy am I ready to get into something I enjoy. In the past I would have 3 builds going at the same time. I chose to build 3 ships all for myself. Usually I donate them to auction off for local charities. I chose Model Shipways Niagara kit because its just a beautiful ship and has a great history. Hopefully with some help from the folks here I can do her justice. I do not usually use a lot of paint in my builds, I just don't like to. I practiced a little on my last build with the Jolie Brise build and it worked out alright. Its log is here on MSW. Anyways, here goes: Edited December 16, 2013 by greatgalleons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted November 15, 2013 Here I have labeled all the wood. I threw together using cardboard a size separation shelf. Usually they would be on the floor. I tacked it near my work bench. lb0190 and edmay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) This must be an updated kit because the center keel is one complete piece not 3 separate pieces. That's nice of MS. I don't have a lot of experience with Model Shipways. Only the New Bedford Whale boat which is in the completed gallery here. I really would like to build the Confederacy but I wanted to try the Niagara first before spending that kind of money on a kit. Edited November 16, 2013 by greatgalleons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmay Posted November 15, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 15, 2013 Good day to you,Would like to reserve a seat and follow your log,like the organised wood compartment,working on the Mississipi steamer, and Endeaver,was given a badly broken Niagara and two boxes of Niagara wood,will have to make some pieces,will watch and learn,thanks in advance,Edwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted November 15, 2013 Hello Edwin, good luck with the steamer , that was a bit of a challenge for me when I built it as a green horn at modeling. A lot of deck planking as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenr Posted November 15, 2013 Share #6 Posted November 15, 2013 Hi Ed it will be good to follow your build too. I completed a Niagara a few years ago. Most of the masts and rigging where smashed in a house move Rather than trying to repair the damage I bought a whole new kit and started again The theory being I would do a better job second time around Time will tell Regards Ken Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted November 15, 2013 So first on the list is tracing the bearding line on the center keel and file down the rabbit. The kit calls for the rabbit to be chiseled out after the stem, keel, and sternpost are in place. I'll place those on after I file the rabbit in. Used tracing paper to transfer the bearding line to the center keel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Ken you should start a build log for us to follow and learn from your mistakes and experience. I'm shooting in the dark here with this kit. Edited November 15, 2013 by greatgalleons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenr Posted November 15, 2013 Share #9 Posted November 15, 2013 Hi AJ I do have a build log although it is not updated very often at the moment It is called " US Brig Niagara by Kenr" Regards Ken DaveG 1 Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Hi AJ I do have a build log although it is not updated very often at the moment It is called " US Brig Niagara by Kenr" Regards Ken ok, what type of paints are you using on bulwarks and waterway and planksheer,are the water base ,acrylic or enamels. I'm not sure if I'm going to use the typical palette of colors everyone has been using. I may use stains ,dyes,maybe some India inks. Edited November 16, 2013 by greatgalleons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted November 15, 2013 Bearding line place on center keel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted November 15, 2013 filed in the rabbit, I cant imagine trying to chisel this out. Cjames 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenr Posted November 16, 2013 Share #13 Posted November 16, 2013 AJ The paints I use are as follows. Red Humbrol tinlet #60 Yellow/Buff Humbrol tinlet #103 I always undercoat first with a waterbased product from the paint shop ( white ) Black is a small can of flat black again from the paint shop And the green. The plans say "dark green " so again to the paint shop I pick a dark green from a colour chart and get a test pot made up The test pot is big enough for me to use a brush which is about 1.5 inches wide so I can paint quickly and smoothly Hope all that helps Regards Ken Quote Under construction US Brig Niagara Completed HMB Endeavour - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #14 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) placing the stem, keel, and stern post Edited November 17, 2013 by greatgalleons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #15 Posted November 17, 2013 I have added pins to the keel and stem at the seams., supposed to taper the stem , will do it later after its secured to the center keel. I will not attach the sternpost just yet till the filler blocks have been placed in and shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted November 17, 2013 I have filed down the slots in the center keel and bulkhead frames just enough so they accept each other without too much force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #17 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) the bulkheads went in surprisingly well, very little deviation and little curve in the center keel Edited November 17, 2013 by greatgalleons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #18 Posted November 17, 2013 more bulkhead view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #19 Posted November 17, 2013 Using Model Shipways Fair-A-Frame ship slip to keep the frames and keel aligned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted November 17, 2013 Share #20 Posted November 17, 2013 Nice job so far. Just a thought, you might want to hold off on attaching the stern post until after you're completed the planking. It will make it easier to fit overlong planks and trim them neatly afterwards, rather then trying to wedge them in. Andy Bill Hime 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #21 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) thanks for the info, I have left off the sternpost so far, I was waiting for a good time in the build to place it on, your idea sounds good after the planking. thanks Edited November 17, 2013 by greatgalleons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #22 Posted November 17, 2013 I have glued the bulkheads to the center keel. I stand the fair-a-frame upright so the glue does not run down past the bearding line into the rabbit. waited for the glue to dry overnight and then glued the forward side of each and repeated the process overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #23 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) I could not help but notice my work desk here is looking purdy rough. 20 years old and countless ship builds have left it scored really bad. Here is a pic of what it looked like when I first started building ships. This was my scratch build Ark Royal I was working on from the HMS Revenge Plans. Edited December 16, 2013 by greatgalleons md1400cs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share #24 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) I have added struts in between each bulkhead and mast supports, this is a common practice for all bulkhead models Edited November 17, 2013 by greatgalleons DaveGrady1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share #25 Posted November 18, 2013 there are 3 sets of transom timbers to be installed. Inner ,Outer, and horn timbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share #26 Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) some filler blocks to be shaped for the stern and bow, I left the sternpost off in order to shape these better. Edited November 21, 2013 by greatgalleons DaveGrady1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share #27 Posted November 18, 2013 shaped filler blocks, some struts inbetween the horn timbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share #28 Posted November 18, 2013 timberheads and knightheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share #29 Posted November 19, 2013 assembling and placing the waterway and planksheer DaveGrady1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatgalleons Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share #30 Posted November 19, 2013 adding some shims to the bulkheads which are shorter than others to ensure the fairness of the hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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