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My build log... back dated to what I consider my actual date of commencement up to today events. 31 Dec 2013 Found information on HMS Bellerophon on the internet which rekindled a spark. My interest in the Billy Ruffian stems from my joining #141 Royal Canadian Sea Cadet Corps Bellerophon of Welland Ontario Canada in 1967 at 12 and a wee bit years of age. I have not been involved in the cadet movement for over a quarter century now but those great memories haven't died away. 04 Jan 2014 Stumbled onto modelshipworld.com and after skulking about for an hour decided to join the group; intend to actually scratch build the first Bellerophon Looking at various Arrogant class build logs (Vanguard & Bellerophon kits) Looking at Victory and Bellona build logs Looking at tools, build methods and little tricks used Overwhelmed with the work done by others and information available; realize how little I know; determined to do my homework. My last (and only) scratch build was a 27 ft whaler. I was quite familiar with them (and the 30 ft. cutters) as I worked at the boat shed at HMCS Quadra for two summers. Found literature on rigging details on another site; looking for info on mast size details. Got info for plans from forum to order from NMM. Found four plans: HMS Arrogant (too early; they made changes to the design later) HMS Edgar (ordered well before but launched after Bellerophon) HMS Goliath (ordered after Edgar, launched before Bellerophon; should record the changes made from Edgar on) HMS Elephant (built same time as Bellerophon so may be the best plan). £60 each = $107 CDN ... pretty steep. E-mailed NMM to see if there was a “buy in bulk” price discount. These plans are about 3 ft x 7 feet each. Not sure where I can lay them out to use and NMM insists they cannot be copied (to make a working set and keep these clean). This presents a problem. I decided not to look at HMS Vanguard as it was the last of the ships built... well after the Bellerophon... and so might possibly have other changes. 11 Jan 2014 Realize if I download build photos and reference documents into folders from the FORUM and other sites and build my own reference library I will retain more of what I see in my memory (works for me as I am “hands on” type of learner). This has kept me busy! 15 Jan 2014 My ex CPO (a modeller by night and Mechanical Engineer in the Pulp and Paper industry by day) recommended “The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War 1625-1860 by James Lee; Found on Amazon and Abesbooks.com, pretty pricey at $100+ Found on inter-library loan (Gateneau, Quebec, Government Library, 3 week duration, 3 renewals, no charge); this will allow me to decide (for free) if I should buy the book. Found Rigging Model Ships – A Practicum by Robert E. Hunt 2013 on forum www.lauckstreetshipyard.com at $119 … once again quite steep 16 Jan 2014 Discovered there are two different figureheads for the Bellerophon; Downloaded photographs to my reference library. The first has only the neck and head remaining but is said to have been a full body. The second was torso and head. I intend to recreate the first using the second for inspiration! 30 Jan 2014 Received a collection of modelling reference books purchased from a member of this site. Most turn out to be exactly what this sorrowful example of a modeler needs. Talk about an idiot`s luck! 08 Feb 2014 After some confusion (mostly on my part) I finally ordered and downloaded the TIFF ships plans from NMM. Decided on the TIFF image as it is the clearest possible and I do not have the room to layout 7 foot long plans. HMS Goliath, one image - lines HMS Elephant, two images - lines and deck plans It cost me £150 for the set of three (3) images. They gave me the three JPEG images (quoted at £50 a set) for free. There is a considerable difference in detail between the two types of files. I am not disappointed. TIFF images are 729Mb, 722Mb and 905Mb JPEG images are quite small (1Kb or less) at 300 DPI My PDF program (from which I can measure) will not open the TIFF images because they are too large for it and the JPEG images are too grainy. Converted the TIFFs to PDFs at 1200 x 1200 (Largest the program would allow) and they are very clear! Now I intend to get my measurements off the electronic images and redraw in Solidworks to be able to create templates. I will start my posting of images from here. Might be a while as I have to figure out quite a bit and the first step is always the hardest. Once I have the plans partially redrawn I can make a final decision regarding the scale of the scratch build and degree of finish or completeness as I will also have to decide where the final display resting place might be. I have stepped through to the dark side … no going back now, eh? Following photos are clips taken from my PDF program showing how I intend to get my measurements. I will use the scale provided on the drawings to convert my small measurements to full size. It is difficult to get a perfectly vertical or horizontal measurement so I will need to use some old fashion trig calcs to make corrections like the straw man said in the wizard of oz; record all data in excel and then transfer the info to Solidworks.
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Hi everyone, To get started again, I will post again the photos I took of the original Bellona model at Chatham last year, with permission from the National Maritime Museum. This model is contemporary with the original design of 1760. The Bellona was rebuilt in the 1780s with some significant changes in port locations, refitted rail on the poop, etc. I prefer the look of the original, and so these photos of the original model are my roadmap through the project. It will take me a while to summarize my own build starting with my re-drafted drawings at 3/16" scale, but I am committed to the task! Best wishes, Mark
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Ok guys, figure it was time to rebuild my log on Montague. Might take a while but hopfully it will be back in full before to long. I also started it on Model ship builder which should give me some piece of mind. Hum seems it may take me a little bit to figure out how to get it started, with learning how to post photo's. Thank you. Gary
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hello, i thought i'd share my project here, cause it should be somewhat different then most of the couronne models i've seen built, and may be interesting to some........... it will be an occasional entry showing where i'm at at a given time rather than a complete build log, as i really don't know what i'm doing, or how to do it, day to day, since, aside from the basic drawings, much will have to be made up...... as i live in a small town or village, i don't have access to many materials, so when i had the opportunity to get some cherry wood locally, i grabbed it, not realizing that the swirly grain after varnishing, would show up so much....but i'm living with it and am continuing the build.....if the grain will bother me too much below the waterline, i'll paint it white....... i found that varnish made the grain to dark and exposed, so i used polyurethane, which was better, although the wood looks dark below the lower wale because i used epoxy resin and 2-1/2 oz cloth finished with urethane.....the resin also darkens the wood......i coated the inside the ship with 6 oz cloth and epoxy resin....weighs about 20 lbs now..... this is where i'm at so far.......the hull is around 6 feet long...total should be under 8 feet and hopefully will be sailable.....using the drawings shown, but will make many modifications...the lines were of low resolution, so i had to do much guesswork.... made some windows from mesh bag, painted black, and poured on some polyester resin....but the resin disolved the black...so used epoxy resin....but the fibres in the mesh started coming undone and it looked messy...so i got an aluminum mesh screen from an exhaust vent i butchered, painted it black, and used the epoxy resin, and i'm satisfied with the result..... made a madonna for the stern out of super sculpey, but may do more work on it later so well see what happens next.......
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Hi ladies and guys, After old contents of MSW were lost, I haven’t much time to restore my building log. Perhaps the reason why I couldn’t have been managed any spare time is my habit of laziness. But some sense of diligence in my heart finally won against laziness and it’s time to restore and restart my log. My restoration of log is based on “cut and paste” workings from old contents salvaged from google cache or from my computer. So some remains of “patch work” would be unavoidable. It would be appreciated that readers allow some inconvenience in my log. The kit English 74 gun ships are one of my favourite types of ships. It is often said that 74 gun ships are good compromise of power and manoeuvrability. I think this can be equally said to their appearance. To my eyes they have both of majesty of ships of the line and swiftness of frigates. Anyhow they are beautiful ships. Before the release of Amati/Victory Models Vanguard kit, the only commercially available kit of English 74 was HMS Bellona from Corel as far as I know. This is popular kit but I often heard modellers had to take many efforts to build more correct model from that kit. Also modellers may feel frustration to build precise replica in relatively small 1/100 scale, although it doesn’t take much space for building and display. So I determined to buy Vanguard kit soon after I found it on the internet. Coincidentally my purchase place is online-hobbies.com. I didn’t know this shop is operated by kit designer Chris Watton and his wife till I received order confirmation mail from them. As can be seen on many modellers’ building log, Vanguard is very popular kit. While this is the kit of 3rd rate ship, its quality is definitively 1st rate. Of course modellers may find something to be improved, but it would be easier than improving Corel Bellona. Amongst three sister ship options provided in the kit, I choose Bellerophon because of her distinguished service career. Maybe she is one of most famous 74 and many forum members would have experience to read “The Billy Ruffian” written by David Cordigly. In the next posting I will start log from construction of dummy frames.
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" LE CENTAURE 1782" Scale 1/36 April 2015 I started with the construction of the model and soon realized, "that is a big think". I wanted to present it as a cross-section model with complete interior design, in the style of my model BONHOMME RICHARD 1779. On some whim I finished the construction Oktober 2016, all nicely packed and mothballed. I still want to show the images of the construction protocol, and have the hope that it will eventually be built further. The sequence of images extends over a period of eighteen month in the time-lapse mode. Karl (Google Translator)
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Unfortunately construction is not shown from the beginning. However, I hope in a short time to fix it.
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Hello, I would like to take part in this adventure, always fascinated by everything concerning Admiral Nelson, especially the vessels he commanded, the Vanguard, employed by Nelson in the battle of the Nile is one of those that most attract my attention .. Follow photos of the progress of construction. Good vision. Valter
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So I am starting my build log and I don't know whether it will help or hinder the building of this model. Maybe others have some experience of the effect. Started selection of the next model last year and ran into the history of Napoleon surrendering on board HMS Bellerophon 200 years ago. I have wanted to do an admiralty board model for some time and was inspired by Phillip Reed's book "Building a Miniature Navy Board Model" but I don't want to go to 1:196 yet! So this will be a semi miniature scale. This is my first Build Log so I am getting oriented with the process. TonyM
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Hello friends, my next project in the planning: The 74 GUN-SHIP " L E C E N T A U R E 1783 " after the plan drawwings of: Jean Boudriot, publishing company ANCRE, France. Timbering Plans of Jean C. Lemineur as well as numerous photos and pictures of the construction of his 74 GUN -SHIP Gaetan Bordeleau, Canada I here with once again warmly thanks. The construction of the rear section is planned as a cross section model with complete inside removal. Scale : 1 : 48 NEW : 1 : 36 Type of wood : Deutsche Elsbeere Karl Hi friends. Link: all photos during the construction phase: https://cloud.web.de/ngcloud/external?locale=de&guestToken=22n438epR2m22PUrLw7l4A&loginName=karl.weinmann#/_
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Hello everyone, after I had so much positiv response about the pictures of my model in the gallery, I decided to start a blog about this ship. About the Dragon is to say, it was a third rate ship, designed by Thomas Slade and build at Deptford. Launched 4.3.1760 and sold 1784. It is not the first ship model I have build, but the first 18th century and framed model. A friend told me about the Bellona and I'm interested to learn more about these ships. My first name is Siegfried and that name is program, Siegfried was the most famos dragon fighter here in Germany, or the only? So I would build the Dragon. I ordered the plans from the NMM and a lot of books from everywhere. Then I started learning. Because the whole ship would be too large in 1:48, I decided to build only the stern part, from the 10th frame backwards. After 3 month I started with the model. That was in the winter of 2011/12. In 2012 a friend of mine was in London and I asked him to take pictures from the models at the NMM. That was a great thing and helped me a lot. In 2013 I visited the NMM and the shipyard at Chatham. Here I saw the Superb, the third ship of the Bellona class. That visit changed a lot, you will see it in the pictures. I changed mostly the color of the hull. I will post the first pictures in a fast pass, to get update with the actual level of work. And please excuse my english. Regards, Siggi
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About Me; I have been modeling for over 30 years. My other hobby is HO model railroading. At time when I had the space, I was into railroading, when I did not have the space, I built ships. This is my second non-kit built ship; actually the second iteration of this ship. The first attempt was not good; so I started over. This time is much better. I am disabled; I have no legs. The first was amputated several years ago and the second, a couple of weeks after the first. I tell you this, not for any other reason, other than to let you know I do things differently. Mostly as a result of my disability. For instance, I do not use power tools, except the occasional Dremel. I live alone and am housebound; I have been told that my social skills have been slipping lately. I guess I would rather model than talk; please don't take this personally. About my Ship; She is a work of art; and as such, I will construct her in the most pleasing way possible. Of secondary importance is the historical accuracy; firstly the Hahn plans and timbering set and secondly other reference materials at my disposal. I have a substantial personal library and, of course, access to this site and other internet locations. She is and will be all natural; no paints or stains. She is built by hand, every piece cut, shaped, and glued by me by hand. I purchase slab wood to the thickness needed, cut it slightly proud, and plane it to final size. The only exception to date are some gratings from left over kit parts. Her framing and superstructure are of Alder, with the darker pieces of Walnut. The red furniture is built from Redheart and the yellow wood is Yellowheart, Boxwood, or Longhi. And of course the black is Ebony. As is typical, her port side will be fully planked, but her starboard side has windows to her soul. She will be fully rigged, but with only some of the sails shipped. Officially I laid her keel on October 1, 2014; she is aging gracefully. Apparently my pic files are too large to attach. I'll have to work on that
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Starting my build log back up for the new site. This is the HMS Alfred timbering set from Lumberyard. The ship is the 74 gun HMS Alfred from 1778. Scale is 1/8". The framing is Swiss pear wood, and the build will also include some cherry, rosewood, apple, maple, South American boxwood and ebony for the details and planking as included with the set. The ship is being built upside down using the Harold Hahn method which isn't a bad way to do it, but I would never do again as it wastes way too much wood for my liking. My plan is to fully plank one side of the ship and leave the other side unplanked. My plan is to fully plank the gun deck and not include any of the interior details below that level, then to leave some of the upper deck exposed to see down into the gundeck. I'm finding this scale to be a bit on the difficult side, but the model is a nice manageable size. This certainly isn't a speed build, but most of the framing is done. Adam
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