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  1. Greetings all! After a long, long time I'm finally able to begin working on my AL San Francisco II again. A little background: I started this kit about 6 years ago, and made it to the planking stage before I realized I had no idea what went into building wooden model ships. I took to the web, and came to this fine site. I halted all progress and opted to read instead, learning how to do things the right way, and clearly planning ahead my next steps. I began a build log and asked for some help, and before I knew it my hull was planked! I was so happy to be passed that stage, that's for sure. Shortly after, I went into the U.S. Army and time just flew right on by. Before I knew it, I hadn't worked on her in ages, so I broke her out and put some cannons on her. But I didn't like how AL wanted me to do it, so I did a bit of research and spent some extra time on actually rigging them up. Is it proper for the time period? No clue, but I like how it looks. Alas, I had to move again so back in her box she went along with all of my other supplies. I then moved 3 other times, never taking her out again. Fast forward to now, I'm out of the military and hold a decent job that I enjoy and am ecstatic I'm able to get her out and work on her again. I don't have any progress from before, I guess something happened with this forum, or it got purged due to inactivity? I also lost the pictures I had of the previous progress due to a hard drive failure. Nevertheless, I'm back to working on her, and would like to document my remaining journey on my first wooden ship. I know I still have lots and lots of questions, and if anyone has any tips / recommendations please feel free to reply and let me know! The last few days has been spent setting up my work area, and taking inventory of what pieces and parts I still had after moving around the country a few times. Getting her into a proper stand was first order of business, and combing through the instructions and cataloging my process to get me back up to speed. I decided my first step would be to finish the grates. The instructions said it came with metal grates, and to just glue them down. I don't remember if that were the case or not, but I had already made them I just needed to frame them out. (Except for the bowsprit grate, more on that later) Here the framing is ready for stain. Grates! The bowsprit grate was pretty intimidating, so I opted to go for the cat davits. This presented a unique issue, as the instructions would have me shape them one way, but I had to cut a channel in them to accommodate the lower railing. The pics describe it better. Wasn't too much of a challenge though, with my handy dandy dremel. My next step was to figure out the bowsprit grate. Gonna be a pretty interesting shape I had to make. I pretty much just gathered some scraps I had (I saved all my scraps from when I worked on it before) and started fitting things together until I got something I liked. Cutting the grate was interesting, as I lost the finer details due to me not taking my time on it. I'm 50/50 with this grate...I doubt I'll redo it (even though I probably should) however I'll be thinking of a way to cover up the bottom part that is closest to the bow of the hull. The last order of business for this session was to stain the rudder (not pictured) and cut the strips I needed for the ladders on both sides. And glued in place. Since this is my first wooden model ship, I've definitely made mistakes that show in those pictures. But I'm happy with the progress so far, and can't wait to finally get to complete her! It's been way too long, and I'm already looking forward to what I want to do next (also the clarity of instructions on some of the better kits compared to AL.) My goal is to spend an hour a day on her, but we'll see how that actually happens, hah. Thank you all for taking a look, and again please feel free to throw out some suggestions or corrections that you may see from the pictures.
  2. Hi all, I originally bought this kit a long time ago, built it up to the point that the hull was about half planked, then put it aside for the usual reasons (work, house moves, life stuff). I’ve wanted to get back into it a few times over the years, but there were two obstacles: first, I was struggling to get the 2mm thick planks to bend around the bow – it was doable, but fiddly, inconsistent and slow. The second problem was that I’m not very impressed with the kit. I knew when I bought it that it wasn’t perfectly accurate representation of a Spanish galleon, but figured I could tweak it slightly with a bit of research. The more I look at it, though, the bigger the problems seem. The scale is wrong. The kit claims 1/90, but at that scale the sailors would need step ladders to peer over the bulwark. The hull seems very wide for its length, with very little tumblehome, so the main and quarterdecks look enormous to me. And the hatches look too small. The deck planking is yellow (it doesn't really show in the photos, but it's pretty ugly to my eye) and the grain is too coarse. And the planks are too wide. Lastly (for now, at least), I don’t like the bulwarks. They seem too high and the way they step up towards the stern doesn't look like the ships in any painting I've seen from around this time period. This kit wasn't based on a real ship so I think the best thing I could do is build a generic Spanish galleon based on an accurate depiction by an artist from around the time these ships were active. So I might set the scale at 1/60 or 1/75 and remake everything from the deck upwards based on a painting or engraving - if I can find one. The most suitable one I've been able to find so far is below, but if anyone can suggest something better I'd be grateful. Michael
  3. Hi fellows Starting my first build log here for the first ship model I am building. I did some smaller projects before such as the SF2 cross section or a "posto combattimento" of Mantua Model - so lets see how the skills learned from there can be applied to a 'real' ship now 🙂 When I start this blog, I am already building the SF2 since some months (I progress slowly as there ist only time to work on the hobby occasionally during the week and on weekends...), so the blog starts with planking the hull. Unfortunately its the old kit with single hull planking, at the moment I am struggling at the bow with bringing the planks flat down to the bulkheads. As you can see on the pictures below, especially in the bulhead 2, the planks are not lying flat and a clinker effekt has already developed on the bow. 🙄 Until now I prebent the planks with a planking bender and then tapered them at the ends and trying to fit them as best possible into the next position. The first 5 planks going fully to front of the bow are of normal width 5mm each. After these 5 planks I calculated 3 bands, each containing 6 planks, full width of them at bulheads 4/5/6. At bow and stern the planks are tapered to 4 mm each. But already now the 5th plank of 1st band on portiside is standing off the bulkhead 1 and 2 and the 6th plank is not possible to fit nicely, even with clamps and pins. As I read and know that there should be no force used, there has to be another way to do this properly... Do you have probably and hints how I get that planks lying smoother? And avoiding or at least reducing that clinker effect? I only have 5mm planks, so I cannot spile a plank out of a wider peace of mahagoni. Maximum I could order is 2x7mm... Also I am wondering how wide the garboard pank should be and how far forward that should go to the front. As Bulkheads 1 and 2 are very much shorter than the others (the first is alrady almost full with the frist band...), I am wondering how many of the planks really go straight forward to the bow and how much of the space should be taken by the garboard plank. Let me know if you have and good hints for the current 'battle' I'd be happy to learn from your experience 🙂 regards from Basel Switzerland André 1
  4. Hello everyone. The time has finally come to start work on my second model. The San Francisco II. I chose this one because I wanted a nice-looking, decent sized ship with canons. I went online and this was the cheapest one I could find with those requirements. I don't know much about the ship other than the name. If it turns out like the picture on the box, I’d be happy. I really hope that I learned from the many mistakes on my first build. So, without further ado, here goes. Step one, open the box. It does not look like a lot of components. How on earth will this turn into that ship… It comes without a printed manual. I loaded the instructional PDF on my phone, and I must admit it is quite nice using it like that instead of the printed manual. I started out by cutting out the parts required for the first few steps and then dry fitting them together. First thing to notice is that the parts fit quite easily, almost too easy. There is a small gap when fitting the cut pieces together. Looks like about 0.5mm. Seems like either the plywood used is too thin or the laser cutting was too generous. Should not be a major issue as I guess I can just make sure one side is glued very well. I saw some build videos and most of the people used rubber bands in the assembly, I tried it and I have to say, it is a game changer for me. Wish I knew about this earlier. And here we go, the stopping point for the weekend. Finished the structure and transom assembly. Up next is the planking of the decks.
  5. Firstly I would like to thank you for the kind comments I recieved when I attempted a scratch build of a 50 gun ship. After 2 failed attempts I realised that my knowledge of boat building was nowhere near being close to succeeding though it was fun attempting it. It has also provided me with a lot of extra timber which, having read a lot of posts, should prove very useful. So now it is back to building a kit. At first sight the kit looks well organised and the plastic boxes will be very useful for the smaller bits and pieces. However on closer inspection this version only has the crude metal gun carriages which I am hoping to either make or buy as wooden ones. The deck planks at 5mm wide look way to wide for the scale but I have plenty of 4mm strips which look closer to scale despite only being 1mm different. I was pleased to see the gun port frames and lids are separate and I hope to have some open on the lower gun deck as I have 12 cannons already made up though not historically accurate. I also have several widths of 1mm mahogany which will allow for double planking of the hull. My previous completed ship kit was the Golden Hind by Mamoli and I found the 1.5mm lime wood planks hard enough to work with never mind 2mm thick mahogany. I have also noted that several people had trouble cutting out the gun ports and I plan to add extra balsa between the frames and improvise a small deck area under the ports to mount the extra guns. I hope this should also allow me to plank around the gun ports rather than cutting them out.
  6. Didn’t take long for me to get the new kit opened and unboxed. I figured ill present the contents of the kit since it seems to be a less common kit on this website. I was initially planning on doing a master korabel but the hobby shop called me with too good of a deal to turn down. Upon opening the the box I was fairly impressed with the contents, especially after my recent build which was fairly basic. All of the parts are laser cut and pop out easy. I haven’t opened and closely inspected the die cast parts but at first glance looking through the case it all appears to be good quality. The sales came pre-sewn, which is a very nice touch. This will be my first attempt at assembling and planking a ship, so we will see how it goes.
  7. I decided to start building San Francisco II Spanish galleon kit which i bought almost 1 year ago. I am sharing what i did on her in last three weeks. Thank you in advance for visiting my log.
  8. I want to put some led lights in this kit, so I will try to bash it a bit. First I will leave the doors open, so I have to make the cabins look more realistic. I cut some parts from the hull sections stern view bow stern cabin main deck Captain's quarters, windows will be real so you can take a look inside cabin, hopefully I will make some furnitures
  9. Introduction I started this build early in 2007, after having some moderate success with plastic models (airplanes and a few ships). Didn't know anything about wooden ship model building so I started based on the kit instruction booklet. I soon abandoned the build, because I was frustrated but mostly because I didn't have a workbench area to set things up and work in steps. When using the kitchen table and expecting 2-3 meals a day, the build gets in the way. You can imagine. Current state of affairs Well, 10 years is a long time and the partial built kit was stored safely in a box filled with Styrofoam popcorn in the basement. I have since then moved to a new house with the luxury of a workshop in the basement. Plenty of things to do when you get in a new house so the kit was safely forgotten on a shelf. Until last summer when something made me bring it out and see if I could continue with it and hopefully finish it. In the meanwhile I browsed for information on how to properly build model ships and found plenty. Eventually discovered ModelshipWorld as well. So here is what I was expecting when I started. The picture is from the Artesania Latina website.
  10. This is my first attempt at building a wooden ship (or anything for that matter!). I just woke up one morning with an itch that I had to scratch, so I went to the store and bought the first kit I saw with lots of rigging and guns. I knew absolutely nothing about kits, planking, rigging etc back then and because of my ignorance I ended up with one of the few kits with a single planked hull. I’ve been building for more than a year now, spending almost 8 months on the planking alone. But I’m enjoying every moment! And thanks to this website and the wealth of information shared here I’ve managed to avoid some major pitfalls. Some pictures of my progress are shown below. Planking took forever, as the hard mahogany strips were quite difficult to work with. I hardly finished 2 planks a week. Every plank was spiled in the bow area, and key planks were spiled in the stern area as well. Once spiled, the correct taper (at every bulkhead) was applied working from the new (spiled) edge of the plank. Next, each plank was bent at the bow end. For each plank, the curve was determined by bending a soft piece of aluminium to match the plank’s required curve at the bow. The plank was soaked (no more than 10 mins in cold water) and then heated & bent against the piece of aluminium using a solder iron (and lots of patience and beer!). Another piece of aluminium was bent to match the curve of the first piece and the plank was clamped between the 2 pieces of aluminium to dry overnight. The next day, the plank was soaked again and “edge set” using a special jig – so that the plank, when viewing the hull from the side, curved upwards as you move from bow to stern (Dan Vad will hang me from the nearest yard, I know! I did this so that planks follow the same curve as the bottom of the bulwarks, which is similar to the curve the rubbing stakes eventually follows from bow to stern. Without edge setting, the planks curve towards the keel as it moves from bow to stern. The colour variation between the planks makes their path across the hull obvious to the naked eye and I thought it would not be aesthetically pleasing to have hull planks curve in the opposite direction as the rubbing strakes. ) The next day, the plank was beveled by pressing it against the previous plank and removing material with a needle file until it sits flush against the previous plank. The plank was soaked again (not the curved bow end though) and temporarily fastened to the hull to obtain the final shape (this helped in the stern area where a plank is sometimes almost bent laterally across its width). The plank was left to dry overnight and then glued into place the next day. And then the process started again…
  11. Hi. Starting my 3rd wooden ship build. I couldn't get back into my previous handle of LMDAVE nor could get a password request, so I created LMDAVE29. Previous builds were MS Bluenose and Endeavour racing Yacht. I'm starting this Spanish Galeon build, SFII, and I've heard that the AL kit had hard to follow insturctions. I didn't go through it in great detail, but very impressed with the full size high resolution color picture of the complete build pointing out all sections, and a manual in about 7 languages. So maybe they updated it since I've read those reviews. I would like to give this build a more used look instead of the brand new look presented on the box. I don't want to relic it much, but mainly a more used deck, and canons. So, may be looking for ideas as I approach that on how to acheive it. For now all I have it the box contents.
  12. Well here goes nothing. I am going to start with this San Francisco II cross section from AL I got off of e-bay while I gather the missing materials for the other 2 kits I got off of e-bay. It looks like a nice cross section in the pictures and I am looking forward to seeing it finished. Hopefully get a few wood model ship skills from this kit too.
  13. My kit came in tonight. Here are a couple of shots of the contents. I'm going to be studying the intructions and plans tonight, and then tomorrow I hope to get to the hardware store to get the stuff I need to get my work area properly set up. And of course, as soon as I got things laid out for a better view, the cat had to plop down in the middle of it... I'll post some more pics once I get things underway.
  14. All: This is my build log for the AL San Francisco II, the original was lost in the lomageddon of 2013. I have modified this kit for double planking as I am a beginner and a single planked kit would have been way to hard for me. Enjoy! -Aaron
  15. Have been lurking watching others build their san frans and thought I'd throw my hat into the ring. Im right at The rigging stage and though it would be smart to get help. plus I'm starting the MS rattlesnake and know thats going to be interesting . Doing this from my phone will upload pics from there hopefully
  16. Hello everyone! I would like to try to rebuild my lost log. I started building this kit back in 2012 but have left it alone for almost 2 years. I very much enjoyed the woodwork but kinda gave up half way through the ratlines. Coming across this forum again has inspired me to give it another shot. This build is not correct as I am an amateur and made quite a few mistakes. I will try to keep it updated with my old photos and short descriptions till I can get to the point I am at now. I have to thank Dan Vad and Vulcan Bomber and all the other great builders who helped me out back then. So to begin here are some photos from the first few days of the build.
  17. I was given this as a birthday present by one of my sons. So, despite intending to select a model with excellent instructions, I'm stuck with A-L. It will be my first attempt at single planking. I've seen a couple of brave souls attempting this as their first build - no way would I recommend that! There are surprisingly few surviving full logs on MSW, but I have found others on another forum that have more detail. After reading and asking for hints, it was time to get under way. The plans say to test all the frames and decks, so off we go (no glue yet): They then tell you to pin everything, then glue by running diluted PVA glue into the joints with a brush. I couldn't see this being successful, as the assembly would be too flimsy and flexible, and likely to distort during the glue application. So I opted to fit some of the frames before the decks. Here are frames 5 & 6 squared and glued, also you can see the mast supports glued in: Next came frames 7 & 8, then frame 9 complete with the waist deck: So, I'm off and running, and hoping for hints and comments from anyone. Cheers, Brett
  18. Hello all, This is my first wooden ship model kit and will say that although I have built many other type of kits ( R/C cars, planes and plastic models) this is quite a confusing kit,specifically the differentiating of wood to be used in certain steps.I have read others posts that have stated that this kit manufacturer is lacking in clarity in their directions. I would appreciate any input from anyone currently building this kit or from anyone who has had experience with this kit or manufacturer. Thank you in advance. Doug H
  19. This is my first build of a sailed ship and my first build log. I am sure help will be needed along the way. Randy
  20. Hello all, This is my second AL kit, and my first post in a ship builders forum. Progressing slowly, probably no more than an hour per week and sometimes much less, mainly enjoying the build process. Some pics of the progress are here: https://plus.google.com/photos/110787951766792468149/albums/6032635228534265041?authkey=CM7y0cjvwYXxag A small request to the members - I have misplaced the AL instructions booklet (would have liked to blame the kids but it was probably me), can anyone post scans of the instructions, I have also sent a request to AL and waiting to see if it's possible to acquire it separately. Smooth sailing to all.
  21. I'm reposting some of the photos that I've archived from the original log. Being a novice I did a considerable amount of reading and made too many mistakes to count. Lacking experience and being a perfectionist was rough and knowing when "good enough" was "good enough" is probably the most important thing I learned, other than not to repeat the mistakes, of course! So here goes, from the beginning, yet another San Francisco II build log. If I were to do this again, I would probably add filler all the way to frame 2. Being so blunt nosed it was difficult to give a consistent gentle curve to the planks from frames 2 to 0 afterwards. There are some annoying flat spots that can't be sanded out after planking.
  22. New to building wooden ships and jumped right in. Really happy with my work and want to continue learning and helping others. I plan on posting through my build log to get some feedback from others. This forum was so helpful to me in getting started I'd like to help out if anyone has a question.
  23. This is my first build of this scale. I did one practice build on a beginner kit. Began my San Francisco II build Nov 14th of 2013 This is how it starts out
  24. That's my first build of that scale, but not the first experience with ship modeling. The goal is to complete this kit on a reasonable time, gain enough experience, and then start a new one - more detailed and expensive - polishing it to perfection. So this log will be quite boring, I do not plan to do any interesting changes to the kit, and will use details provided in the kit. Otherwise the build time will be increased unreasonably
  25. Reposting previous and continuation of my build log. I know a little OCD with my organization, but it works for me and keeps everything safe and away from my herd of dogs mouths. Robbyn
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