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  1. Very cool, hope you don't mind me following. I think whalers are very interesting as well (I'm working on the Charles Morgan).
  2. Mike,

    As you've seen, the Pegasus became a Swan. Both can fly, but the Swan took flight first! Thanks for checking out my pics. This was quite a project - not only the build itself, but adding nine set sails and of course, the water of the North Atlantic.

    Interesting how I passed on the Pegasus a couple years ago and then later decided to build it.

    The Swan ships are beautiful; I felt compelled to do this exemplary kit model justice by portraying it in a setting that emphasizes it's grace. I know this might be an odd sentiment to express about a warship that's designed to kill humans. I believe many members on this forum would understand this point of view. 


    1. Landlubber Mike

      Landlubber Mike

      Hey Ron, thanks for the note.  Sorry to not get back to you sooner, I read your note at work and we aren't supposed to post on message boards from our government computers, so figured I would wait until I got home.


      Your Swan is incredible.  The sea is one of the best I've seen, amazing!  You make me want to scrap my Pegasus!  I know that people have differing opinions on adding sails to a build, but to me, sails (plus in your case, the sea) really bring the model to life.


      Amati hit a home run with these kits.  The subject really hits the sweet spot in terms of size, detail, and ornamentation, not to mention the kit components.  And the fact that there are such detailed plans available from the NMM helps with the authenticity factor to the extent people think that is important.  I have the Pegasus plans from the NMM and Amati was consistent in all respects except for a few minor simplifications - I forget the terms of the parts, but on the Pegasus plans the cross bar on one of the rear bitts faces aft, and one set of bitts goes through the gratings (Amati moved the gratings slightly to avoid builders having to do this).


      Completely get your thoughts on it being a "warship" - I'm building the Charles Morgan, and think that the whalers are really interesting subjects with a lot of history and cool detail (plus you don't have to rig cannons with 2mm blocks).  At the same time, I certainly wouldn't condone their purpose.  I would just say that as model builders, we aren't celebrating the use of these ships (whether for war, whaling, carrying slaves, etc.), but just representing subjects that at one time played an important part in history.


      Glad you decided to build the kit!   To me, it's the best model I've seen out there on the Swan class, and that's saying a lot with some of the heavy hitters that have built ships of this class.



    2. hollowneck


      Whoa. Thanks, Mike. I'm glad I decided to build this kit too.


      As I mention in my current NRG Journal article, after spending quite a bit of time looking for one, I couldn't find a historic or contemporary model of the Swan - lots of her sister ships, obviously (including Fly, Atalanta, Vulture, etc. I even checked-in w/David Antscherl on this and he too has concluded the same.


      I've got a 10-page article in the current issue of the NRG Journal, appropriately entitled: "HMS Swan." You can check it out online if you don't get the dead tree Journal as the NRG has just gone digital (online PDFs). I offer some Swan and related era history and a little about my build (there are pics but the ones I've posted here are actually a lot better; larger, higher res than the digital edition.) The NRG needs to revisit this and improve the image resolution. My article is also appearing in the December (Winter) Journal as "Swan, Part 2" and it is a LONG article about how I made my set sails as well as the water - which I wrote bpth taks as step-by-step tutorials; lots o' pics of hands, tools and detailed materials info, etc.


      The NRG has wisely folded-in the now demised Ships In Scale and are focusing on ALL LEVELS of builds and will be mostly dedicated to how-to's now...which is an interesting shift. Much less on nautical research (and history)- which will bum some members out (but not me since my wife and I are both skilled online research animals). Also, the folio is dramatically expanded: this Fall's edition has 100 pages! All color, too. I haven't received my Fall issue magazine - which is mildly ironic...


      I've had a number of queries on how I made my water and I am referring people now to check out my Winter NRG Journal piece. I hope the editor doesn't slash it too much. My current Swan Part 1 piece took quite a hit - even at 10 pages.


      I am a history buff and relish this aspect of our hobby, learning about nautical history. I thought you might understand my sentiments about the aesthetics of these warships we both love to build. I also agree about your point on whaling ships, slavers, etc.


      BTW- A tip: the New Bedford Whaling Museum (in MA) is not to be missed, if you haven't visited already. Combine this with a trip to Mystic! Make it a Road Trip with the family. Seriously. If you'd like I can give you lots of info, good tips on how to make this adventure work (I have lots of children and g'kids who do these road trips).


      After my Dec article, I'm writing another piece for the NRG on votive/nave ship models which will have lots of pics and a kool story about this European history. How did I learn about this arcane subject? I was commissioned to build a votive model for a church in NY! I'll include photos on this aspect as part of this feature story.


      Good to hear from you and thank you again for your kind compliments.


      Take Care,



      PS Pic attached (preview) of my votive model, HMS Godspeed.




  3. Hang in the SpyGlass. Best wishes to you and your wife!
  4. Looks great David. You've gotten through some of the trickier parts of the build. For the planksheer, I also took John's approach of sanding it flat and then adding a small strip to it to ensure an even extension throughout the hull.
  5. I got shingles a few years ago (I think I was 39 - having three young kids and work must have stressed me out). All I can say is that it was by far the most painful thing I’ve had, and I’ve been through two ACL knee reconstructions. It had flared up on my back and literally for a month it felt like my spinal cord was being crushed in a vice. And my skin felt like the worst sunburn times ten. I have a very high pain tolerance and for me it was unbearable. Anyway, I highly recommend the vaccine!
  6. Just want to say that this is looking very cool. Thanks for sharing, hope you don’t mind me following along.
  7. Looks great David. The counter block took me quite a while to put together, lots of curves and angles. For the stern generally, it seemed to me that the transom, etc. have very subtle curvatures. Take your time to get the framing right to ensure that you can capture those curves. That's a cool protractor - very helpful for this hobby I'm sure! If you have questions, I have lots of pictures that I've accumulated over time (including from a trip to Mystic). John (Texxn5) has a great website with lots of pictures as well: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com
  8. Landlubber Mike

    Using "veneer" wood

    Thanks everyone! I'll keep an eye out on for how it handles drilling and cutting. It seemed to do ok on the quick test planks I cut on the table saw, though I noticed it did have a tendency to chip the wood at the entry point of the saw. At the current thickness of 1.5mm, it seems to hold up ok. Getting it down to 0.5mm was a different story though, as it curled, cracked, etc. I'll probably try to keep it at a width no less than 0.75mm. Gregory, love the model, very nice! I too am a fan of natural wood. And good eye on those sample planks - I do believe I cut them across the grain with the small sample piece I cut off the sheet.
  9. Landlubber Mike

    Using "veneer" wood

    This company also offers dyed veneer sheets as well. The colors looked really nice. A potential option if one wants to avoid paint. I know some kits come with dyed strips (my Corel Unicorn kit, for example, came with strips already dyed black). https://sveneers.com/wood-veneers/dyed-wood-veneer/ Given the flexibility, seems like this kind of material is a great option as opposed to fighting wood that doesn't want to bend. One issue perhaps is that these veneers are normally on the thinner side.
  10. Landlubber Mike

    Using "veneer" wood

    I picked up some cherry veneer from Woodcraft a few months ago. One of the packets is the typical reddish color, the other is almost a golden orange color when oiled. I'm thinking of using the latter for the upper hull and decking of my La Renommee build which contrasts nicely with the dark walnut I picked up from Crown Timberyard - here are some pictures: Is there any issue with using "veneer" material for models? The stuff I bought is very flexible, almost like thick paper. To give some idea, I sanded it down in my Byrnes thickness sander and it started curling around the roller at around 0.5mm. I'm used to wood that you have to heat/soak etc. to get bends, but this stuff is almost too flexible. What I can't tell is whether the sheets are crimped with micro-cuts to help with flexibility or not. Seems like I can sand out the machining marks to get a smooth finish so I'm tempted to use it as it's the color I have been looking for. Any tips or experiences with using similar products? Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything before laying down the first deck planking. Thanks!
  11. Nice choice David, it’s a great subject and a nice kit. Looking forward to following along.
  12. Looks great. Love the deck planking very striking
  13. Looking really nice. This will look wonderful with the woods you have chosen.
  14. Looks great David. I’m impressed not only with the build, but also how quickly you can progress at such a high level. My Pegasus will be done by 2025 😳
  15. Vince, I've been off MSW for the past couple of months but came across your build and wanted to say that I love the sails. Did you use the sail cloth that came with the kit? I just realized my LAR kit came with sail cloth, and I might just use it if it's the same stuff you are using.

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