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  1. Please excuse me while I remove my foot from my mouth. Probably not the best way to describe how confusing naval jargon sounds. I think you're referring to the deck stoppers that held the anchor cable while riding. I meant the piece of rope or device that held the anchor to the cat head so the cat block could be removed and then when ready a rope was pulled to release the knot or the device, letting go of the anchor to fall into the ocean.
  2. Jud, normal people would have no clue what you just said and would simply assume you're having a stroke. I'm still quite puzzled by the cat stopper (that's what they called the piece of rope that dropped the anchor, right?). I did some research have found how to tie a Farrimon friction hitch and it would seem possible that knot with a good, strong rope could hold up a 1 1/2 ton anchor on a cat head, but apparently this knot was invented in 2008. I know large ships in the 1800s had a metal device for releasing the anchor, but I seriously doubt they had something like that for sloops in 1715.
  3. Someone sent me a small excerpt from one of Chapelle's books "The absence of a windlass, or capstan, in many of the American schooners of this period requires explanation. The relatively large crews, particularly in privateers or letters-of-marque, could manhandle the cable and anchors by means of tackles stopped to the cable. The tackles were double or treble purchaces laid out on deck on each side, one block secured aft and the other to the cable near the hawse. The tackes were worked alternately, and the running block was secured by strops (short pieces of rope) passed around the hook or eye of the block and then around the cable. The strop was passed so that it jambed on the cable and could either be quickley thrown of or secured. " So it seems it was possible to forego the use of a windlass or capstan for light anchors. But here's another question. How was the cat stopper rigged on a sloop with a anchor typical of a ship this size? I'm assuming it was a simple slip knot passed around the cat head and the anchor ring with the running end leading aft clear of the laidout anchor cable. I would image a couple strong sailors would be able to pull it to drop the anchor.
  4. Ok, awesome picture. That cannon though, oh Lord. So it would be okay to assume that a traditional windlass would be in its place in the real Providence. Does the providence have a metal frame? Then it's not a realistic replica, like the Le Hermione is.
  5. Does the sloop Providence have a windlass or capstan? I can't find any pictures of Providence with a capstan. She clearly doesn't have a windlass. I know it's a replica, but surely they would have included a capstan if she did carry one.
  6. I'm making a 3d model of a generic sloop circa 1715. I thought that they were omitted from the plans for simplicity sake, but then why does everyone make ship models without those parts? To be honest, I don't think they had riding bitts for some sloops. Instead I think they rigged stoppers from the ring bolts on the deck and that was sufficient to hold the cable while riding.
  7. I mean a true sloop, not a brig, snow, brigantine, cutter. Most models I see of a sloop don't include a windlass, a capstan or riding bitts. https://modelshipworld.com/uploads/gallery/album_266/gallery_2684_266_123723.jpg http://modelshipbuilder.com/e107_files/public/1417092562_4_FT0_mediator-final1_.jpg It's not easy to just attribute the issue to an error in the drawings and craftsmanship of people's model. They spent a lot of time researching their models to get everything right, so I'm compelled to believe some sloops didn't have windlasses, capstans or ridding bitts. I can see that to fish that anchor shank, but I don't see how it could raise the anchor from the ocean floor. You would have to constantly bend two tackles to the cable with nippers, one after another as the anchor is raised, and remove them at some point. And if the tackle is going to the yards how would they remove the tackle from the cable? They would have to wait until they can detach it at the yard, and then let the cable drop or lower it. Wouldn't it have been easier to attach the other end of the tackle to a ring bolt on the deck?
  8. I know how they raised and lower the anchor on a man-o-war or frigate, but how did they do it on a sloop...that didn't have a capstan, windlass or riding bitts? How where they able to haul up the anchor? Did they bent two tackles on the cable and secured the other end of the tackles to a ring bolt somewhere and hauled it up that way, switching between the two tackles? If they didn't have a fish davit how did the fish the shank up? Did they run a tackle from the crossjack to the shank with the running end going to the deck? I'm also guessing when riding at anchor they secured the cable to the deck with stoppers from the deck ring bolts.
  9. Anybody have an idea what kind of table or chairs were used on an early 18th century English Man-O-War? Specifically the kind of table or chairs in the ward room or great cabin? Thanks!
  10. Where would the stuns'ls be stowed on a 6th rate man o war from the early 18th century? I would also assume this includes the yard as the sails would be kept bent to them. I'm going to guess the lower sails were secured somewhere near the fore and main channels along with the stuns'ls lower booms and the upper stuns'ls were secured somewhere on deck or maybe even secured on the fore and main course yards. This is for my 3d ship I'm currently working on...

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