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About Thistle17

  • Birthday 07/25/1939

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    Webster NY
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    Research, kit (bashing), scratch, half hull modeling of period naval and 1800-1900 work boats.

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  1. You are gifted Doris there is no question! With that gift you create masterpieces. I do hope you have heirs (s) for the preservation and longevity of your treasures. Joe
  2. Ship board damage control now finds the bulkheads sanded fair at the keel rabbet and the rabbet strip and keel have been replaced. Time to move on, by attending to the transom frames. These are very delicate members and have to be added somewhat "in the air" as they are attached, one by one to the former sides w/o much structural support. I will describe what I did but in hindsight I will also suggest an assembly method that might be a bit easier. The pictures in Chapter 3 related to transom member assembly aren't too clear but they suffice. Once again I was on a roll with the bulkhead supports I had used for most of the other bulkheads and placed them (the vertical ones) on the aft end of #22. They should have gone on the inside of that bulkhead. This is going to give me a bit of the problem when I have to add the fillers where the stern terminates. However they did give a nice landing area for the inside stern frames that were to be added. I then added the 2 inner most stern members per directions (separated by 1/8 inch spacers along the former) to yield a 7/16" spacing. I liked the support they gave enough to add horizontal members port and starboard to support the remaining stern members. These are separated by 7/16" spacers per directions. All spacers and frame members are glued one to the other across the stern. These frames should be flush with the top of bulkhead #22. I am left with the problem of still having to shape the stern with fillers as one does the bow. This I perceive will be a bit cumbersome. In hindsight I should have re-enforced the bulkhead from the inside as I said and executed the following: On the aft side I would have placed a 3/8" X 1/2" strip across the bulkhead port and starboard side of the bulkhead and then filled in the balance of the stern area with balsa filler. Also for the more fastidious modeler I would be tempted to extend the horizontal legs of each transom frame member such that they can extend forward of #22 bulkhead (slotting this bulkhead to accept the thicker base leg of the frames) and placing those 3/8" X 1/2" horizontal strips on bth sides of the bulkhead (i.e. forward and aft). Joe
  3. Jim I did not use the de-bonder as the keel was free about 2/3 of the way to the stern and there was tape wrapping the keel. It just snapped. I will use yellow glue and continue attaching it with the little blocks in the picture. By the way those blocks really make the bulkheads quite rigid. Joe
  4. This is a good news, bad news accounting. The Strong museum demo/display was this past weekend. I used Essex for my demonstration for how a kit might begin and managed to assemble about 16 of the bulkheads before the end of the 2 day session. Today I installed the bulkheads 17 through 20. At this point one has to decide if the "strong back" stiffeners are to be added as they pass through bulkheads 3 through 20. They then are glued to the "strong back" and hopefully some of the bulkheads. It turns out this is a annoying task.. I say that because of slight irregularities in the slot of each bulkhead. Theoretically they all should line up and the stiffener just slides through, in this case from the stern, one to a side. If one uses the top of the strong back as the datum slight irregularities occur in the alignment of the slot from bulkhead to bulkhead. As it turned out I had to remove about 40 thousands from the stiffeners. and chamfer the edges to avoid any glue obstructions that may have occurred when the bulkheads were glued in place. Stupidly I used CA to attempt to fasten the stiffeners to the strong back. I used the very thin CA and sure enough some trickled down onto my assembly jig gluing the keel to it!!!!! It took a bit of doing but I was able to extract the hull from the jig but in so doing the keel and most of the rabbet strip stayed behind. After a few moments of self chastisement I discovered it was somewhat of a blessing in disguise. I will have to make a new keel. When using the top of the strong back as a datum and with each bulkhead set flush with it I observed that about 7 of the bulkheads protruded into the rabbet area. At this point I realized it was going to be a lot easier to sand the bulkheads at this point so there was no rabbet overlap prior to the keel repair! That's my good news. Sort of! Joe Note bulhead protrusion at rule 15 3/4 and 16 1/4.
  5. Where does this passion and drive come from? It seems every time I check in you have taken another leap forward with great results. Simply amazing! Joe
  6. Thistle17

    Hannah by Bobby B

    Excellent work BobbyB. It is refreshing to see someone building the Hahn way and fully framed. In regard to the plans are they the Tubman???? And what scale is that? Joe
  7. Thanks Mark and David we aren't going to give up on promoting this incredible art. modeling or past time whatever it is seen as. My thoughts have been flavored by what I see around us. For example, I happened to be watching 60 Minutes on CBS last night and my dread was re-enforced by the segment of how AI is infiltrating our lives at nearly "light speed". It was related that in the next 20 or so years, 40% of all jobs could be eliminated in the world by AI technology. In comparison, I recall in 1971 Intel introduced the 4bit microprocessor and look where we are some 45+ years later! While we have folded in 3D printing, CNC and Laser machining into our works no telling what the next 20 years will bring even to this practice. Joe
  8. Thanks for checking in Eric. I do know programming as I was involved in multi processer, real time, machine control for machines. Its just that with modern technology, the old arts/interests take a back seat. We are planning at least one more outreach maybe this fall. So keep us in mind. And snow is headed our way by Friday reportedly in the form of a storm. We will see. Joe
  9. The demo and display at the Strong Museum was completed today. From the security folk nearly 8 thousand people visited for general and special events. We were given great placement for our display and signage that could not be missed as it was in the main lobby area. We all agree our hosts were magnificent in both accommodation and welcome. The Strong Museum is a class act to be sure. We had many visitors stop by and admire the member display. The museum is structured to entertain and celebrate the all important aspect of play for children. I would hazard a guess that it is geared primarily to those below 10 years of age. So it wasn't surprising that the parents were the ones who were the most interested in our works. That was re enforced on Saturday when I wandered into a class room of older children and parents. When I inquired what the class about, I was told it was a 4 week class on how to program video games. What ever happened to the days of model building for young folk? It is doubtful given the parents age and the children's age that we will attract any new members.We did however get our name out there. We all live and learn. Joe
  10. We are only able to muster 2 to 4 hours a week on this build so indeed progress has been less than impressive. Today was somewhat of a milestone however. The "skin" is complete and the sheer line fairing has been made. We are now concentrating on some smoothing and fairing of the hull prior to fiberglass treatment. This seems a most prudent step as one can see the application of Nitro Stan glazing and 3M filler has been required to modify flagrant imperfections. The starboard side is clear evidence of that. Again the use of the 3 inch basswood sheets was thought to be a time saver but it turns out strip planking would have yielded better results. What can't be seen is the inside of the hull. There are many wood braces spanning laterally laid sheets at their junction to stiffen the skin. Luckily this will be hidden once we skin the inner hull. The backdrop is the 1:6 scale Maryland Silver drawings. The photo is from the good folks at Patriots Point South Carolina. Joe
  11. Just a reminder The Model Shipwrights of Western NY (note the name change, we dropped the Guild, our web site remains the same as before) will be at the Strong Museum in Rochester NY this weekend (January 12th and 13th). Five members will be actively working on modeling or modeling techniques. Rigging, sail making, hull construction and general hull detailing will be demonstrated. We are giving away a brand new model kit in a drawing in the hopes of signing up new members.
  12. Anna, hello from upstate New York! You obviously have an artistic talent which should support you in your endeavors. I started ship modeling at about your age and the passion has never left. Life events tended to interrupt me at times but as I said the extreme interest and wonder never left. You may be aware that of your gender Portia Takakjian was one of the most prominent illustrators and modelers of modern times. Look her up, her works were impressive. Look forward to seeing your progress. Joe
  13. Doris I forgot to ask...what are the resistors for near the main cabin...lighting? Joe
  14. Doris you have a rare gift that most can not approach in kind. Simply stunning! Joe
  15. Thistle17

    Hi from Rome, Italy

    Buongiorno from upstate New York along Lake Ontario. Picard, you will find the membership and work of this site a most pleasurable journey. Do start a log. It is a way to seek guidance and engage new people all over this world. Joe

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