RichieG

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  1. Al, I think there's room for both schools of thought: the pristine shiny new model and the weathered look. My personal taste is more to the newer look. But one point I'd make is that if you go for the weathered look, it shouldn't be because you can't do the other. It should be because you can do it very well, and make an artistic choice to deviate from it. Since I'm new to this whole game, I'm going to try to develop the skill to make a clean model, and then in the future, I might challenge myself further to do weathering. But, while we're at it, I think I get the idea of the floorboards, risers, and thwarts, although the plans seem to be a bit different from the instruction book and the photos therein. I know that there's not one 'right' way to do this, but I'm tempted to go with the book and photos, (cuz they were really built, whereas the plans are more theoretical). There are a few pieces that don't actually seem to be in the kit; the oar locks and an unnamed piece that I would call a 'knee' (actually, 6 knees). I guess if I want to use those, I'll have to fashion them from scratch. (I'm probably going to eventually want some advice on how to tackle that stuff.)
  2. these images (from the web) seem to fit more with what I would get if I just glued the floor boards right onto the frames. So, yeah, Steve, I think you've got it right, and I'm going to do it just as you say. But first, I'm going to stain the inside of the boat. I did a few practice stains on scrap wood with natural and golden oak. I think the golden oak isn't too dark, and the natural is hardly different from the unfinished wood. So my plan is to use golden oak on the inside of the boat, and natural on the floorboards, thwarts, risers, etc. so they'll stand out. (But, yeah, I'm definitely using wood glue...)
  3. well, I put some acetone on the white spots (which was most of the inside of the hull, and wiped it with a cotton swab, and the white pretty much disappeared. It was like magic. And all the frame pieces stayed well attached, too. But, I'm going to be much more careful in the future. Question: as far as putting in the floor boards, I can't tell if they're supposed to be flat all the way across the five boards, or if they are meant to follow the contour of the bottom of the hull. I just cut the pieces roughly, and laid them in the bottom, and they definitely won't lie flat unless I somehow elevate the center one off of the bottom to be on a higher lever where the most lateral ones will want to lie. a quick google image search looks like most of them have the floor boards pretty flat on a level like this one; I guess I could put a shim under the center board, but I wonder if it's worth it.
  4. thanks, tigersteve, I'm glad you suggested gluing before sanding, because it would never have occurred to me. I'll sleep on that, as I have some other things to do first. (There's some floorboards, risers, and thwarts that need to go on first.) This ship's boat is a whole little model unto itself. It sounds like the best way to remove CA glue is to not use it in the first place. Then comes sanding and a distant third place is using a solvent or debonder. I'm in such a tight space there that I don't really think I can sand (it's about 2-3 mm between each of those frames. I may try folding a piece of sandpaper and getting it in there. If I can't bear that, I might try dropping acetone with a 30G needle in there and wiping it off with a cotton swab. The good news is that the floor boards will pretty much cover most of that CA glue residue, and I've learnt my lesson for the future. If you can avoid CA glue, don't use it. If you need it, then really use the absolute minimum.
  5. Sounds great! The only thing I might suggest is to start call him "Chuck Passaro" instead of "Chuck Pissaro". (I'm not sure he'd like that as a nickname...) But other than that, I think we're ready to roll!
  6. Al, I'm just looking at this for the first time, and it looks great! Hard to believe that it's your first model! (and glad to hear that you're thinking of starting on the Mayflower; I'll be looking forward to that, as we can 'work together on it')
  7. Captain Al, thanks for looking in on this build. I think it's great that you're starting the same kit; let's try to help each other as we go. (Just know that I'm exceedingly slow, so you'll probably get well ahead of me right out of the gate.) As far as your questions: I emailed mmosko@aol.com about the replacement parts, and he got back to me within the hour. Actually, he sent me a copy of an email that he sent to someone else, telling that person to send out the parts. That email address was jimenez.s.carlos@gmail.com. So I never communicated with John directly. But, if you end up needing anything, I'm sure there are several ways to get help. You could call John on the phone, or email Marc or Carlos for starters. Tigersteve suggested jgarcia@modelexpo-online.com and I'd guess that that would work too. And yes, I think the modelexpo website is the same company as Model Shipways (not modelshipworld, which is this forum that we're on right now.) But you're definitely getting the same kit as I have, as MS2020 is the same model number as mine. So, that being said, you'll get the 51 page instruction book written by Chuck Passaro, which really is excellent. The exact same instructions are available on line from the website, so we'll have backup copies if we need them. And, yes, of course, I'm already following those instructions, and plan to continue to use them as the main source of information on how to proceed. But even those detailed instruction may occasionally leave some questions unanswered, which is why I'm asking things of the more experienced modelers on the forum. In addition to the instruction book, there are 4 large pages of plans that you don't get online. They have, among many other things, full size plans for the false keel and all of the bulkheads. So, if you had some good 3/16" plywood, you could definitely cut your own parts with a scroll saw. I guess it depends how far you want to go. Since customer service is so good, I felt like it was far easier just to get replacement parts. As far as the shape of the bottom of the ship's boat, I think that, at least for the mayflower, it's pretty clear how to shape it. If you look at the plans that I photographed earlier in this build log, you can see cross sections of the hull, and the bottom is pretty flat. You definitely will have to sand off the edges of the bottom lift to get them to blend into the second lift, but the center of the bottom lift stays pretty flat. And you can see the keel added to the center of the bottom in those cross sections. Also, there are two cradle pieces that are meant to hold the boat, (also shown on those plans) and they are pretty close to flat at the center (leaving a notch for the keel), and begin to curve upward as you go laterally. Anyway, that's my take on it.
  8. Tiger, I hadn't even considered that option! But, I think I'd rather thin the piece out before gluing for two reasons: 1) it's going to be glued onto a curved surface (as you can see in the plans in the fourth picture in my last post that had pictures) and it'll be tough to get a nice even thickness after it's gotten that curved contour on it (easier to just put it on a flat surface and sand it with a flat block) and 2) because it needs to be bent to conform to the curved surface, it might be easier to bend when it's thinner. I did glue in the keel and frames. These were 1/32" x 1/32" strips, which are the smallest that the kit comes with. I glued the keel and the first 3 frames at the bow with titebond, but I was getting frustrated with the fact that I'd put glue on the strip and hold it in place with my finger, wait a few minutes, and invariably the strip would end up stuck to my finger instead of the inside of the boat. So I changed to CA glue for the rest of the frames. This worked much better at getting the strip to stick to the boat instead of me, and I tried to use as little as I could, and used a wet followed by dry cotton swab to clean up extra glue, but by the next day, I saw a nice white residue over pretty much the whole bottom of the boat. I wonder if I can remove some of that with acetone if I'm careful to apply only a tiny amount at a time. PS. I also learned this (which I'm sure everybody already knows, but maybe a true novice might find this helpful): when trying to bend those thin strips to the contour of the inside of the hull, it's better to prebend them around something like a dowel of appropriate size (I used the cap of my CA glue bottle) in order to get a nice smooth curve, rather than just push them into the hull, where they will tend to crease in one or two spots.
  9. Thanks Steve. I think I'll try some golden oak and natural, or mix them, and try it on some scrap to see what looks good. I guess I don't want to go too dark. The ship's boat is probably a good place to try some of this stuff, because it's probably ok if it doesn't match exactly the rest of the colors on the ship. I have a question about this model in particular: after these seven lifts are glued up, there is a piece called a caprail that is glued onto the top edge. It is laser cut on the same piece of 1/16" wood as the rest of the lifts, although in the instructions, it says that the caprail is 1/32" thick. I guess this means that I should sand the piece to half of its thickness before gluing it on? (I've looked at most or all of the mayflower build logs, and I haven't actually seen anyone describe building the ship's boat) Thanks for the advice and encouragement so far. It's giving me the courage to proceed...
  10. actually, upon further reflection, I think what I meant by 'sanding sealer' was 'pre-stain conditioner'.
  11. I must say that I think it was a wise decision to pre-bevel the bottom 3 lifts before gluing all of the lifts together. I glued them together sequentially, starting with lifts 2 and 3, and was able to fine-tune the internal beveling without the bottom of the boat in the way. Then, I added lift 4, and filed/sanded the whole thing a bit more. (The instructions say to glue them all together and sand the outside first, but I think this approach made it much easier to get into the inside bottom, particularly at the front and back.) After I added all six upper lifts, I glued on the bottom one (lift 1), and gave the inside another pass with the file and sandpaper. After this, it was easy to sand/file the outside contour and remove the little registration pieces on the front and back. There is a contour to the top of the boat, which is described on the plans, where the front is higher than the back, and the middle dips down. I copied the heights from the plans onto the model, and carved away the upper part, and file it down smooth. Looking down at it from the top, I can see that the front and back walls are thicker than the sides, and, as the instructions say "try to establish a consistent thickness for the hull", I think I will use a dremel with a diamond burr to thin out the insides of the front and the back. (I think the outside contour is pretty much done once all the ridges between the lifts are filed away, so I'm only going to remove material from the inside now. (the first three pictures are before contouring the top, and the next three are after. I tried to show the model nest to the full size plans from the side, front, and then a top down view which shows how there's some thinning to do on the inside of the bow and stern.) After that, there are instructions to add internal keel and frames, floor boards, risers, thwarts, and a cap rail. But it does say to try to stain or paint the interior before doing most of that, as it will be tough to do after. So I need to decide whether to stain or paint, and what color to use. I think I want to stain it and let as much natural wood show through; I think I've seen Chuck Passaro use golden oak stain from minwax on some of his ships (this model was designed by him), so I may get some of that from the Home Depot. I'm not really sure what sanding sealer is for, but I might put some of that on before the stain, and then the wipe-on-poly seems to be popular to top it off. I'm certainly open to advice on prestain, stain, and finishing, though (hint, hint...)
  12. I think it looks great! But, when you say the model was 'prepared by your friend', do you mean that he designed it? And what kind of wood is that on the hull planking? It's very pretty.
  13. I've looked at some of these kits online. They look like a nice change of pace, and can be pretty intricate. I'm interested to follow along and see how it goes.
  14. While I'm waiting for the replacement keel and bulkheads, I've decided to try to forge ahead with the ship's boat, which I guess is something like what I would have called a 'life boat'. (This one is about 2.5 inches long, and at the 5/32" to 1' scale, I think it would be about 16 feet long. I imagine they could save about a dozen people if the ship went down, and the rest would have to just do their best?) In any case, this boat is made of seven 'lifts' (laser-cut flat pieces) which are meant to be stacked up from the bottom to the top, and then chiseled or sanded to shape on the both the inside and outside surface. (This is apparently called a 'bread and butter hull' for some reason; maybe the lifts are the bread, and the glue is the butter?) The instructions say to glue them together first, and then shape the outside followed by the inside. However, it does say that you might want to leave off the bottom lift at first, as it will allow better access to the bottom of the inside of the boat for whatever instruments you choose to use to shape it. I've decided to take this advice to the extreme, and try to (at least roughly) shape the inside of the pieces before I've glued any of them together. So, I stacked the bottom two pieces, marked on the bottom one the inside contour of the upper one, and then filed the center of the floor down to about half thickness (from 1/16" to 1/32"). I repeated the process for the second and third lifts, marking the inner contour of the third lift on the top of the second lift. This allowed me to file a bevel along the second lift's inner edge using the pencil line on the top and the bottom of the laser char on the bottom. It certainly is easier to shape the lifts individually, as I can stick the file right through the center hole without having it hit the bottom of the boat. I've done this for the third lift as well, and stacked them to see if it's starting to look like the bottom of a boat, and actually, I think it kind of is... I know that I'll have to do the fine tuning after it's glued together, but at least this way, I've gotten the bulk of the roughing out taken care of while the access is good.
  15. update: within 45 minutes of sending the email to Marc (and this is on a Saturday), he already responded to me and to Carlos, instructing Carlos to send the parts out. I have to agree; they do seem to have excellent customer service!