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  1. I was stationed in the Tidewater area my last year in the Navy, tiny place called Northwest, VA. When I got out I lived in Poquoson for about 3 1/2 years before returning home to NY. Love the south, but for better or worse, NY is home and it was a long drive from VA and my mom was in failing health, so back we came. I used to visit the Mariner's Museum in Newport News fairly regularly, one of my neighbors must have been a member or something. He did restoration work on some of the models there. I took some pics when they were having a contest there. Hahn's continental frigate Hancock was there and I got to meet August Crabtree. Quite a treat!

    1. John Cheevers

      John Cheevers

      Man, Northwest VA is in the middle of nowhere. I live on the peninsula and Poquoson is also in middle of nowhere...LOL. I saw Hahn's frigate there in the first Scale ship model contest. I think he won. I met Hahn there. I also met Crabtree on several occasions, he was an exceptional talent. I man the ship modelers booth at the Museum on the 2nd and 4th Sunday of the month. If you're in town try and drop by.

    2. walter1097


      If there is an actual town of Northwest I don't remember it, just the Navy base. Our operations building was in North Carolina. I lived in Deep Creek while I was stationed there, my last year in.

  2. I haven't seen this mentioned so I thought I would. It may be somewhere my keyword search didn't locate, but anyway, here goes: I've been building the Bounty Launch and heard some horror stories about bending the 3/32 sq cherry frames onto the forms. I've been using my sealing iron from my model aircraft work. For those not familiar, it's basically a small iron shaped heating element on a handle. It's used for sealing down and shrinking aircraft covering materials and is readily available at hobby supply outlets. I think I got mine at Tower Hobbies. I don't know what temperatures it operates at, compared to a household iron, but it gets hot enough to boil water out of wood and the size and shape are really handy for bending wood in either direction. I use the flat part for bending from the outside of a curve and the curved part for the inside. If I'm bending a plank more or less free form (not to a form) I just lay the wet plank (soaked 2-4 hours) on my workbench, press the iron firmly on the plank where I want to start the bend, and pull up on the plank. The only trick is to go slow enough for the wood to heat up. The iron heats the water in the wood to sizzling hot. Usually by the time I've finished the bend the wood is completely dry. If I need to bend it more after that I usually re-soak it but I've found the iron will bend basswood a bit even if the wood isn't wet. I found it works a lot easier than clamping a soldering iron in a vise and scorches the wood a lot less. When I used it on the frames on the Bounty launch I had very little breakage, and I wasn't able to figure out anything about the grain, so I just bent them however I happened to grab them. Of course that could also be due to the fact that I ordered extra wood before I ever bent the first frame. Murphy never sleeps! My other tool from aircraft modelling is a heat gun, also for shrinking covering material. I also use it for shrink tubing on electrical wiring and anywhere else I need high portable heat. It gets much hotter than a hair dryer, in fact the manufacturer warns you not to use it for that purpose. Also available at Tower and others.
  3. Are those lift (bread and butter) hulls? That's my preferred way of building anything except an open boat. I built the Randolph that way (profile pic) a long time ago. I wanted to build a model of the galley Washington but the plans from NRG didn't include body lines. I find it much easier to get the shape of the hull right, not to mention, an excellent surface for planking.


    What's the destroyer? From the partial view I'd probably guess Gearing or Fletcher class. I tend to build 18th century stuff but just about everything is interesting (ok, maybe not cruise or container ships) I'm a dinosaur so I tend not to like anything really modern  :-D

    1. John Cheevers

      John Cheevers

      Thanks for asking....


      All those are bread and butter 1/4"-1' except the one riding piggy back which is 3/16"-1'. I prefer to built that way as well because i like too carve the hull. The destroyer is a Fletcher.. It's not mine, it was just passing through. Here is something different and a few more images showing progress. 





    2. walter1097


      I'm also a bit of a tugboat fan although I don't think I've ever built one, except a plastic one when I was a kid. I was stationed in Panama in the Navy in the 70's and the canal company had a few rather colorful tugs. tugboat.JPG.0d8b65b8773b01c017c4b5e78834dedd.JPG

    3. walter1097


      There was a replica of the Golden Hind built during that time and they brought it through the canal, lashed to one of the tugs.



      Golden Hind.bmp

  4. New member intro

    Yeah, tell me about it. When I lived in Virginia, right after I got out of the service, my neighbors would ask why I didn't SOUND like I was from New York. I told them I DO sound like I'm from NY. Just 'cause I don't say toity toid and toid street doesn't mean I'm not a New Yorker, born and raised. I got even though. The first winter we were there we got a foot and a half of snow, which the Yankees on the corner (us) claimed full credit for,,,,you're welcome. I grew up spending summers on Keuka Lake and I still say the Finger Lakes area is one of the prettiest in the country.
  5. New member intro

    Joe: Sorry, I don't get around much any more. That's part of the reason I got back into ship modeling. I didn't get out flying at all this season, just didn't feel up to it. The one day I tried I got rained out right after I got my plane fueled. Might still make it, but I doubt it. I get to Rochester two or three times a year to see the doc and that pretty much wears me out. I'd be happy to join online discussions, share experience, photos of builds, etc.
  6. a glutton for punishment

    My brother server on the Turner. I remember when he brought home a Turner shoulder patch and a model of the Fletcher for me. I seem to remember him telling me they were almost identical except the Turner had the original 5" mount at the forward upper position whereas the Fletcher had a Hedgehog launcher there (or maybe it was t'other way round, it was probably 55+ years ago) I was in Naval Security Group 68-77. Jim always said I wasn't in the "real Navy" He was right, but I can't say I regretted it. Sleeping in a regular bed every night instead of tossing around the North Atlantic on a tin can somehow seemed better to me. Oh, and what tender? Jim was on the Puget Sound, out of Newport (I think) later in his career. Oops, I did a little research. Looks like the Turner was a Gearing class destroyer. I guess the closest model Jim could find at the time was the Fletcher (by Revell, if I recall) Guess I made the association that the Turner was Fletcher class. I'll ask him about it. I know he was on radar picket ships in the Atlantic (unless I remembered that wrong too)
  7. I'm going to plunge in even if this isn't the right place. Hopefully one of the mods will move it to the right place if it isn't. I'm getting back into the hobby after a 30+ year absence and things have REALLY changed. Getting started again hasn't been easy. Knowing what to buy (and what not to) has been a painful trial and error process. I've bought a couple kits that will probably end up as firewood. I started with the longboat kit from Model Shipways and found I had questions about planking at the stern where the frames meet the deadwood. I bought their kit for the Bounty launch at the same time and checked to see how it was done with the pre-spiled planking and found that the deadwood wasn't dead! Two totally different methods of planking (or NOT planking) this area, both on (British) launches from about the same period and both fairly close in size (23' vs 26') I think the method on the Bounty seems easier and more likely to produce decent results, given my less-than-expert skills. And it would be a fairly simple matter to make the change. Any comments or suggestions? One thing I changed was to use slightly narrower planking. The kit stuff just looked a bit wide to me and I thought narrower stuff (3/32 vs 1/8) would follow the vertical curve of the frames better. I used the wider stuff for the garboard, etc. I had a wooden rowboat when I was a kid (probably 16') and I remember the planking being quite narrow relative to the overall size of the boat. BTW, my profile pic shows my last build before my 30 year absence from the hobby. It's the Continental Frigate Randolph. Scratch built from enlarged plans by Chapelle. It's solid hull (lift built) below the main deck. I have a few pics of the build in progress, but regrettably, none from the early stages before the hull was planked. I'll share more about that if anyone is interested. rand1.bmp
  8. New member intro

    Thanks again, everyone. Actually, my name isn't Walter. I revived that handle from when I used to participate in a chat room. Walter came from Walter Nowotny. I'm sure many of you recognize the name. My given name is Gerry, so most of my friends call me Ger. I tend to be cautious, at least at first, with revealing personal details in an online forum. I'm sure I'll get more comfortable with time. davidrasch: I've never heard of JoTika models but I will definitely look into them. Thanks. Thistle17: I live in a small town near Syracuse. I moved from the Rochester area about 3 yrs ago. I'll check out your website soon. I don't know what happened to my lazy, laid back retirement. I seem to be almost as busy these days as when I was working. I can't even sleep in on weekdays. The landlady's dogs come thundering down the stairs before she leaves for work. Nothing like a cold nose in your armpit to wake you up early. (sorry if the crude image offends anyone)
  9. New member intro

    Thanks. I live in upstate NY. Meant to mention that but I did put it in my profile. Ok, I THOUGHT I put it in my profile but I just checked and it wasn't there. Fixed that. Still trying to add the Nickname (or whatever it is) above my profile photo. I'll get the hang of it eventually.
  10. New member intro

    Hi, I usually just go by Ger, in an online context. I've been building models since I was ten or so. Plastic to start with, airplanes, ships, cars, military vehicles, weapons and figures. I think I started with wooden ships while I was still in the service. Did a few kits: Some early solid hull ones from Model Shipways, Rattlesnake, Fair American, Virginia Privateer and a couple others. I have a scratch built 1/64th model of the continental frigate Randolph, from plans enlarged from Chapelle. It has been stalled, at hull mostly done and lower masts in and rigged, while I've tried to figure out what to do about a figurehead and other decoration. After a long absence pursuing other hobbies, mostly building and flying radio controlled airplanes and a bit of model railroading, I'm back to building wooden ship models from kits. Like a lot of folks here I've purchased several kits, mostly to get an idea of quality and what appeals to me for other reasons, before I started building one. Right now I'm working on the Bounty launch from MS. On the shelf waiting to be built (although one or two I like so little for one reason or another, that they may never get built) are: MS Chaperon, 18th cent longboat, Mantua Pinta, AL Nina. Not thrilled with the Italian kits. I REALLY don't like plywood when the edge shows on a completed model. So I already have quite a few questions but I'll save them til I figure out the most appropriate place to ask them, after I've read a lot more build logs.

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