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      An Incentive to Start A Build Log - New Plan Set from the NRG   03/17/2018

      An Incentive for Starting a Build Log

      The NRG’s Generic East Coast Oyster Sharpie plan sets have been selling out – we had to reorder prints 2X already.

      BUT nobody has started a build log yet.  As an incentive we have decided to reward the first three (3) MSW / NRG members who purchase the plans and start and continue* actual build logs** from the plans. 

      The build logs should be started in the scratch built forum and labeled with Generic Sharpie – by “your ID”.  When we have six or more build logs up and running we will set up a group build area for the Generic Sharpie build logs.

      The winners will be able to pick any one of the prizes listed below:

      Free registration for one day at 2018 or 2019 NRG Conference                  ($145 value)

      Shop Notes 1 and 2 set                                                                         ($60 value)

      Nautical Research Journal – all content set                                              ($145 value)

      4 CD's or 1 flash drive         

      Continental Galley Washington Plan set                                                    ($65 value)

      1 year NRG membership or extension                                                      ($50 - $62 value)



      *“Continue” means that multiple posts containing build log content must be made for a minimum of 30 days after the initial post.  Logs will be tracked by starting date and the first 3 that have continued for 30 days following their initial post will be declared the winners.

      **Note the words “actual build logs” – no fair showing a few pieces of wood and going no further just to win. 


      The NRG has a new set of plans available for purchase with a free 200+ page full-color monograph .  Check the NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD NEWS forum below for details.  This plan set is developed for the first time scratch builder with limited tools and experience.  All materials are standard strip stock available from hobby wood suppliers.  However, it is also a great project for the more experienced builder looking for a smaller project to take a break from the bigger builds.  Remember MSW Members who provide us their real name are considered members for the discounted price.  An email or call to the office before you order with your real name and MSW user name before you order is needed for the discount code.


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    Really nice build Denis. Hope it get pride of place in your home.
  2. Thanks again. All much needed good advice.
  3. Thanks Steve. Interesting, I’ll see how easy it is to blacken when the darn solution arrives. Seller say I should have had it by now so is re-sending. If it’s a pain to do I may reach the same conclusion and decide silver soldering the rings are a bit overkill too. We are going away on Sunday for 5 days to Portsmouth to see HMS Victory so I won’t get chance to do any blackening. Hopefully the solution will be waiting for me when I get back
  4. Thanks Steve. Just to clarify I’m not silver soldering the eyes but I am silver soldering the Breeching ring ends to close the ring after threading through the eye. I wrongly or rightly assumed every one did this. What do others do?
  5. Hi Dave. Thanks for your tips. I’ve committed to Birchwood Casey Brass Black now (as recommended by Hornet) so will have to experiment with that. Not sure if you can brush this on locally. Still waiting for delivery but it’s 2 days late now so will have to chase the seller. Yes Betty’s tearoom is still there. We don’t go in often as there is usually a queue full of tourists from Switzerland . They do nice biscuits too which come in nice handy tins.
  6. Thanks Steve. That makes a lot of sense I will try that. I will have to re-blacken after silver soldering the rings though, is that a problem?
  7. Here are my attempts at the Breeching rings in both black Jewellery wire and Bare Copper. The divisions are mm by the way. Everything is almost to scale but I have made changes as shown below. I rounded the 0.35mm up to 0.4mm because that’s all I have and the 0.2mm up to 0.3mm because I found the 0.2 wire a pig to work with. Does anyone else use 0.2mm successfully and is it strong enough? The 2 rings on the left were joined with CA and touched up with a permanent marker. The three on the right were silver soldered but they aren’t the first three I made as the previous ones have all been DESTROYED Through trial and error I found that, the join had to have no gap, and that just a tiny bit of silver solder paste applied with a pin was enough and the butane torch was best set at the lowest setting with the work piece heated slowly by flicking the flame on and off until the solder ran into the joint. I think it’s a case of you have to learn how to do it wrong before you learn how to do it right. Still waiting for the blackening solution to be delivered but I will show them finished when it arrives. I didn’t appreciate just at how tiny and fiddly these bits are because I’ve seen that many zoomed in pictures here on this site.
  8. Thanks SpyGlass. I coiled them round a 2mm drill bit and snipped but they are over scale. I hope to do some to scale so I have since ordered some finer wire at 0.2 & 0.3mm in both black Jewellery & bare copper. The breaching tackle eyes/loops & rings done to scale at 1:64 & (full size) would be * eye loops - 0.2 wire & 0.6mm hole (1/2” & 1-1/2”) * breeching ring - 0.35 wire & 1.2mm hole (7/8” & 3”) * breaching rope - 0.5mm (1-1/4”) Not sure how the silver soldering will go at these sizes but will report back with the results (scrap copper maybe)
  9. Thanks Derek, Frankie, Darell & SpyGlass I did order some Jewellery Round nosed pliers when I ordered the black wire as it happens and they look the business. The shine on the black Jewellery wire is something I could live with or fix as SpyGlass suggests. I have been playing around with both the black wire and the bare wire I have received but can’t compare until I get the blackening stuff which hasn’t arrived yet. Im happy with my technique of making the eyes and rings These are all with 0.4mm wire. I’ve also ordered some silver soldering bits and pieces (butane torch, silver solder paste, etc) for the bare brass ones. Silver soldering is a skill I learnt during my apprenticeship over 45 years ago but I’ve never done it since and not on anything this small, what could possibly go wrong I presume that with the black Jewellery wire you CA glue the rings ends together and touch up with paint or permanent pen?
  10. Thanks Maury. Apologies as I might not have made myself clear in the original post but I was after sourcing the pre-coated black copper wire because I was looking for a short cut (I’m lazy) to save me making the eyes/rings from bare copper and blacking afterwards. In my last post you can see I’ve left my options open with my purchases so I can do some tests and decide which gives the best results for me, either bare copper and blacken OR pre-coated black Artistic wire.
  11. Thank you all for your great info and links and based on what you have given me I have ordered the following items to play about with: Bare Brass Wire (0.4 & 0.5mm) from wires.co.uk here Birchwood Casey Brass Black from Amazon UK here Black Enamelled Brass Wire (0.5mm) from wires.co.uk here Artistic Black Enamelled Brass Wire (0.4 & 0.5mm) from SJ Jewellery Supplies here The Liver of Sulfur seems like good stuff, based on your comments and The Jax Pewter Black I couldn’t source from the UK so will see how the Birchwood Casey stuff works out first.
  12. Lots of info here thanks to all. I have found a bare copper wire source here in the UK at https://www.wires.co.uk/acatalog/cu_bare.html#aBC0500_2d125 so it looks as though this is what I need and some Liver of Sulfur. Was hoping for a ready made black solution. Note to self - don’t be lazy. is there one solution that blackens both brass & copper well or is it horses for courses?
  13. Thanks Alexey. Blackening is another skill I need to get into for the brass guns but I was hoping to get black copper wire as copper is easier to twist I think. I specifically want to make them like shown here
  14. Hi. I’m building a Swan class HMS Fly and I'm starting to think about stocking up with various sizes of black wire to make eye bolts using the twisting method, where do you guys get your black wire from, preferably in the uk for me, and what diameters do you use for 1:64? I’m trying to get diameters from the FFM books and 1” & 1.25” keep cropping up which equates to 0.4mm & 0.5mm @ 1:64
  15. Miracles do occur

    Just found this SpyGlass. So pleased it went well. Take care.

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