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      An Incentive to Start A Build Log - New Plan Set from the NRG   03/17/2018

      An Incentive for Starting a Build Log

      The NRG’s Generic East Coast Oyster Sharpie plan sets have been selling out – we had to reorder prints 2X already.

      BUT nobody has started a build log yet.  As an incentive we have decided to reward the first three (3) MSW / NRG members who purchase the plans and start and continue* actual build logs** from the plans. 

      The build logs should be started in the scratch built forum and labeled with Generic Sharpie – by “your ID”.  When we have six or more build logs up and running we will set up a group build area for the Generic Sharpie build logs.

      The winners will be able to pick any one of the prizes listed below:

      Free registration for one day at 2018 or 2019 NRG Conference                  ($145 value)

      Shop Notes 1 and 2 set                                                                         ($60 value)

      Nautical Research Journal – all content set

      4 – CDs or 1 Flash Drive            ($150 value)

      Continental Galley Washington Plan set                                                    ($65 value)

      1 year NRG membership or extension                                                      ($50 - $62 value)

      THE RULES

       

      *“Continue” means that multiple posts containing build log content must be made for a minimum of 30 days after the initial post.  Logs will be tracked by starting date and the first 3 that have continued for 30 days following their initial post will be declared the winners.

      **Note the words “actual build logs” – no fair showing a few pieces of wood and going no further just to win. 

       

      The NRG has a new set of plans available for purchase with a free 200+ page full-color monograph .  Check the NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD NEWS forum below for details.  This plan set is developed for the first time scratch builder with limited tools and experience.  All materials are standard strip stock available from hobby wood suppliers.  However, it is also a great project for the more experienced builder looking for a smaller project to take a break from the bigger builds.  Remember MSW Members who provide us their real name are considered members for the discounted price.  An email or call to the office before you order with your real name and MSW user name before you order is needed for the discount code.

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  1. How Realistic Can One Make Sails?

    Tea is famously acidic. Tanic acid is always described as “the acid in Tea that gives it its flavor”. It’s in grape skin too. Acid will cause fabric or paper to yellow and become brittle over time. Tinting fabric or tissue can be done with thin acrylic paint, which will empart color without adding acid. My experience with tissue us for sails is that it’s not suited to model ship building EXCEPT when representing furled canvas, where it is packed down and glued to something solid and it’s tiny wrinkles appear life like. As flat sailcloth hanging in space, I feel tissue will be too insubstantial. I have, on small 6” long Models and Ships In Bottles used tissue for sails, but I always coat the tissue in acrylic medium to give it a harder shell. In other words I don’t trust the inherent strength of the tissue itself to ensure a long lived model, I know I need to strengthen the tissue to give it longevity. This opens the can of worms of how do you coat tissue paper with liquid without tearing the tissue? If you go down this road you will find you need to invent specific solutions for individual applications, and that it will be a chore. My advice is to use paper!
  2. Them Old Jokes

  3. Without Sails

    Basically any line you see on the diagram that is across the face of any sail when the sail is set would be retracted all the way back to the yard when the sail is furled and would be hard up against whatever lead block it was rove through last. From the point on the yard back, the line would exist and be visible all the way back to its pin on the deck. Many people connect the Clew and Sheet and have them hanging in space to represent the position they would be hovering in if there was an invisible still set sail but in my opinion this is an illogical contrivance. On actual ships, when they downrig all the sails for whatever reason, they also remove all the associated running rigging as there is no reason to leave it up if it’s doing nothing. Hailyards braces and lifts on yards remain though. Note also that the hauling yards- the topsail yard and every yard above it- will be in the lowered position if the sails are furled, or off. Again, some people build bare-polled models with the yards all hoisted into position as if they had sails set on them. But again, in my opinion, this is silly.
  4. Them Old Jokes

  5. Black wire for eye bolts/rings

    Bead stringing suppliers and jewelry making suppliers have lots of wire styles and sizes and options.
  6. It raises interesting questions about ship size and Ground Tackle. And when exactly did sailors switch over to chain for the entire Rode? A rule of thumb kicking around these days is that the anchor rode needs to be eight times as long as the maximum depth in the waters you imagine you will be navigating. Nobody anchors offshore, so the amount needed is certainly finite. But what was considered a comfortable margin for error? then there is ship size. I know large ships had a dedicated Cable Tier within the hull just for cable stowage. But as hull size diminishes,at a certain point the idea of a dedicated interior storage space becomes extravagant since interior space is scarce and the crew traditionally bunk in the Focastle’. They are NOT going to bunk with the wet muddy cable. in my view, a schooner wouldn’t need the cable below decks if it’s a smaller vessel. But this is a guess and I wonder if anyone has a decent drawing of a schooner with a chain locker, or cable tier, forward, below decks?
  7. Great Eastern Rigging

    As regards sheets on Fore-and-Aft sails on Great Eastern here are my thoughts. She’s BIGLY HUGE. So the sails are enormous and powerful. Like all sailing vessels you would need to be able to tack her, go about through the wind and get on the other tack. So every Fore-and-Aft sail will need two sheets. Very large robust sheets with enormous tackle on them, to handle the forces involved. I’m picturing blocks as large as watermelons on sheets as thick as your wrist, at a minimum. If you look at Pride of Baltimore II, she’s got a loose footed Fore. When she goes about the crew has to attach a safety line to the Clew just to control the flopping sail during the short period she’s in the eye of the wind and the sail is flapping. The Leeward sheet is taken up on, the sail draws on the other tack, and then this safety line is taken off, it’s job done. Im certain Great Eastern would need this safety line too. Sails as large as hers, as she goes about, would be dangerous deadly thrashing monsters, those sheet blocks would be exactly like wrecking balls destroying everything as they whipped around. Even with the safety lines in place I’m certain that no member of the crew looked forward to tacking. So many masts! So many sails to tack! I’m certain they would go to great navigational lengths to assure tacking happened as infrequently as possible. certainlty the gear on deck to handle the sheets would be correspondingly enormous. I doubt there was ever a pin made that could handle those sheets, I’m betting they had large bits on deck for those. sheeting tight would be impossible in high wind and it seams likely they would have a steam powered capstan just for the sheets? That’s a lot of gear on deck though.
  8. Great Eastern Rigging

    The website/app Pinterest is a very useful research tool. You can create folders and store any number of photos and keep them organized and freely a ailable. Or you can use it to look at the photo collections of others, AND there is a LOT of historic ship material on Pinterest. And more appearing every day. Here is a pretty good Great Eastern board someone is maintaining, it’s got a LOT of photos : https://pin.it/g36atwlxjvovsv It’s free to use Pinterest. I can’t remember if you can view people’s boards without registering? But it’s a simple and free process to register. I never get spam from them. Here’s an example of a Great Eastern deck photo, showing eyebolts, from the link above:
  9. makeing sense of rigging plan abbreviations ?

    The key to the spar identity codes is provided for you in the lower left corner of this plan, where there is a simplified diagram of all the spars and their locations in relationship to each other.
  10. Mast Location on AL Bluenose II

    My advice is ignore all landmarks below decks and focus instead on the sail plan. Hopefully the kit came with a full scale one? This will give you the location of The Partners, where the mast pierces the deck, and the Rake of the masts, which will show you the line on which the mast intersects the keel. These two landmarks will unfailably give you what you want. Wearas if you use frame or bulkhead landmarks below decks, the results will be entirely dependant on those elements having been located properly. And if they are off in the slightest your mast will be wrong.
  11. CONFEDERACY RIGGING

    In what context is the term used? There’s a bunch of things on ships that use the word Head.
  12. Modeling hove-to, main topsail aback

    I think you could just glue the after surface of the sail directly onto the spars and rigging. In a way this would be much easier than trying to achieve the “full” effect of a sail that is drawing wind. Paint white glue over the entire forward half of the mast and this would hold the sailcloth directly in place.
  13. Knots or hitches; what is appropriate?

    Are you asking about attaching the load to the hook? Any loop knot or eye splice. A specific knot for tying to the hook is the Blackwall Hitch but it only works when there’s a load on it, otherwise it falls right off.
  14. ships in bottles

    I feel mildly guilty I haven’t posted in there in quite a while. I hope the site stays up, it’s a good resource. There aren’t that many builders who take part in that site but on the other hand they appear to enjoy a very high ratio of users to useful content. Meaning the content you find there is very very On-Topic. I still PLAN ships in bottles but I haven’t started work on one in a while. I encourage anyone who hasn’t made one to jump in and do one, they aren’t as difficult as you imagine and anyone who’s built something on MSW would likely have little trouble executing one.
  15. Terminology question - "period ship models"

    ....”Actually, quite possibly not, I have heard on a number of occasions where publishers set the title of books”....... The editor WORKS for the publisher. It would be the editor making title suggestions on behalf of the publisher. in the case of Petersson I wish the editor had made clear in the title what is stated above: Peterson’s reasearch is confined solely to individual models. This is the defining aspect of the books content but it’s not made clear in the title or anywhere on the books cover. This is worlds away from comprehensive research on the subject derived from numerous sources, which you may have assumed your Petersson book contained based on how it was presented in the marketplace. One only discovers Petersson’s odd self-imposed research limitation in the small print within the text. In the the case of Period Fore and Aft Craft, Petersson doesn’t even identify the models he used as his subjects. And there ARE inaccuracies presented in his text.

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