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    • kurtvd19

      An Incentive to Start A Build Log - New Plan Set from the NRG   03/17/2018

      An Incentive for Starting a Build Log

      The NRG’s Generic East Coast Oyster Sharpie plan sets have been selling out – we had to reorder prints 2X already.

      BUT nobody has started a build log yet.  As an incentive we have decided to reward the first three (3) MSW / NRG members who purchase the plans and start and continue* actual build logs** from the plans. 

      The build logs should be started in the scratch built forum and labeled with Generic Sharpie – by “your ID”.  When we have six or more build logs up and running we will set up a group build area for the Generic Sharpie build logs.

      The winners will be able to pick any one of the prizes listed below:

      Free registration for one day at 2018 or 2019 NRG Conference                  ($145 value)

      Shop Notes 1 and 2 set                                                                         ($60 value)

      Nautical Research Journal – all content set                                              ($145 value)

      4 CD's or 1 flash drive         

      Continental Galley Washington Plan set                                                    ($65 value)

      1 year NRG membership or extension                                                      ($50 - $62 value)

      THE RULES

       

      *“Continue” means that multiple posts containing build log content must be made for a minimum of 30 days after the initial post.  Logs will be tracked by starting date and the first 3 that have continued for 30 days following their initial post will be declared the winners.

      **Note the words “actual build logs” – no fair showing a few pieces of wood and going no further just to win. 

       

      The NRG has a new set of plans available for purchase with a free 200+ page full-color monograph .  Check the NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD NEWS forum below for details.  This plan set is developed for the first time scratch builder with limited tools and experience.  All materials are standard strip stock available from hobby wood suppliers.  However, it is also a great project for the more experienced builder looking for a smaller project to take a break from the bigger builds.  Remember MSW Members who provide us their real name are considered members for the discounted price.  An email or call to the office before you order with your real name and MSW user name before you order is needed for the discount code.

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  1. 18th Century Model Builders

    I agree with all of your comments. The quality of those models defies virtually all but a very few of modern builds. How fortunate we are that so many have survived as testimony to the talent of the builders, many of whom must have lived otherwise humble, if not impoverished lives. Oh to be a time machine fly on the wall of their workshops!
  2. Some years ago, on my first visit to the NMM, I remember how astonished I was to see 'Implacables' stern. Boy, did it seem big. I also realised it is mounted about the proper height above the water line (where you stand bellow it). Looking at how the same structure was so dilapidated in photographs taken before it was removed, makes one realise what a fine job was done, restoring it. It may have served some perpose to naval architects, if the hulk had just been allowed to rot alone up some quiet creek. Modern health and safety would put a stop to that now, I suppose. Since that visit and similar regular visits to the London Science Museum, things have changed drastically. Neither venue's display their once renowned model collections. A national scandal. At least, most of the exhibits have been photographically recorded, but there's no substitute to seeing them in the round. Their removal means I won't be going out of my way to pay anymore visits. How would our American friends feel if the Annapolis model collections were packed up and put into permanent storage?
  3. I also think the rope goes the wrong way through the ring. I also question the use of that ring, which, in my humble opinion is more likely to be used for lifting the entire assembly, being suspiciously close to the apparent centre of gravity. Also, if you follow the line of the breeching rope, routed through that ring, then at full extension, then there would be an unwanted lift to the carriage, with the possibility of either the rope and or the ring parting! Has anyone actually seen one of these guns fired, fully loaded with shot? The recoil is extremely violent, much more so than when fired with only a wad, during demonstrations for the tourist. It makes me laugh when this is shown in the movies, usually a big bang, a lot of smoke and the gun trundles backwards. As far as the hoo haa about this feature, I think the artist may be forgiven, after all, his depiction is admirably very clear in all other respects.
  4. Thanks 'druxey'. Yes I found the tutorial and read it. It takes a while but I get there in the end, usually with the help and patience of the guardian angels here on this forum. Best wishes.
  5. Thanks chaps. I have a split personality, altering between Mr. Dumb and Mr. Dumber. So the function of the fan is to give a consistent even spacing of planks at a given bulkhead. Drawing a fan consists of lines radiating from a vanishing point. So each gap between the lines represent each plank selected for the job. Back to the fan. presumably the lines are 10 degrees apart. Then you mark a paper strip with the top and bottom of the area being planked; then offer the strip to the fan so those marks coincide with the relevant fan lines; then mark off each fan line in between onto the paper. Take the paper and transfer those marks to the bulkhead. Is that it? Simples? Once again, thanks to my BIGGEST FANS!
  6. Hi to the planking Swami's among you. I'd like to draw my own 'planking fan' as I don't have a printer. I can draw, but haven't a clue how to configure the radiating angles. I appreciate those angles must be based on something, but what? Is there a formula? I've seen one or two of these fans illustrated on the forum, but I'd like to understand the principal properly. Your wisdom required, please. On a related matter; is it possible to plank a hull without resorting to stealers? I'd like to think so.
  7. Longboat rigging

    Mark, thanks for getting back to my reply. Yes, I understand the issue compiling an index of posts. While we're here in the 'longboat rigging' area......perhaps someone can explain.....When ships boats are displayed stowed on board, rarely if ever, there's no evidence of the plates and dead-eyes for mast shrouds and stays. Yet when a boat is depicted rigged, there they are! Clearly the plates are bolted to the hull so I imagine they must be permanently there, even if the boat is un-rigged. I appreciate there's a wide range of boat styles and uses, yet it seems all of them are capable of having masts fitted. I could be wrong, but I have no recollection that this feature is indicated on original source draughts. Could it be that boats rigging is attached to inboard belaying pins. It seems to me these fixtures are included on model boats with a big assumption that 'how else can it be done?'. Another point; colours on boats and ships:- it is widely known by the younger generation, that everything prior to colour tv was black and white! So period paintings and drawings depict colours as products of artistic licence? A disturbing thought. Enough. Thanks again. Alex
  8. Dziadeczek, thanks for your tips, I've been trying to hunt down the Roberts publication on e-bay without success for o while. The DIY jig you mention....would that be a miniature plane? Thanks again.
  9. Rigging hooks

    Wefalck, thank you for your intervention, which is much appreciated. Now I'm aware of dafi's situation, I'll stop grinding my teeth. Thanks again.
  10. Boxwood and how to get it

    Boxwood rulers! Boot sales and jumbles are a good source. The older the better. If you can find old printers blocks, great stuff. It's surprising what's lurking about. A simple plane can cut lovely planks from the edge of a ruler. Sharp tools or none at all. Looking at period models in museums made of Box and comparing the rubbish kit supplied open grain hardwoods.....I rest my case. Of course other woods have their uses but Box is surely the 'King' in this hobby.
  11. Gun Ports

    Hi Lou, Davis no doubt was quoting some original source, I can only assume some Admiralty dictat. But I imagine that's a good rule of thumb for 'new build' ships as we can get now. As for wanting a simpler formula, remember things were done very differently back then. I accept there must have been considerable variations, especially when ships were adapted from their original use and/or when guns were uprated or down-rated. I do enjoy these opportunities for debate on the forum. Thank you for your welcome contribution. That's why I try to broaden my outlook on these subjects and sometimes ask challenging questions. At no time have I any wish to be abrasive or rude to anyone. It's a joy to be here.
  12. Marine Walk

    Greetings John. I have no doubt you are correct. However, restoring a house today, that may have been restored umpteen times over 250 years, how do you judge from what period the glass was made? Having the misfortune to be living in England I have the delight of being able to see plenty of buildings, some of which can be up to a thousand years old. I can't remember seeing one that had anything other than clear glass. That doesn't mean any of it is original. Certainly during the Georgian period, posh Palladian houses would have nothing but the best. Look up Walter Wilkinson's 'Puppet' books; between the wars, each summer, he dragged a wheelbarrow, upon which was his 'Punch and Judy' show, all over the British Isles; an itinerant entertainer of sorts (no tv then). One of his journeys took him within 10 miles of where I am now. He describes accepting the hospitality of a family living in an old cottage on the 'Great North Road'. He points out that none of the windows had any glass fitted. Instead they were fitted with oiled heavy paper. That was about 20 years before I was born, so not long ago it could confidently be said to be within living memory. The cottages made way for a road widening scheme post war. Walt, having recently been mislead myself by dubious 'facts' gleaned from Wikipedia I would suggest anything there should be cross referenced with more 'reliable' sources. Dafi, how's my order for your etch ringbolts and hooks coming along? (sent you ANOTHER e-mail earlier today).
  13. Red bulwarks

    Victory at Traffalgar: I've read several contemporary accounts that the inside of the bulwarks were painted yellow. Bellow decks being whitewashed. I understand, once out of the dockyard, the cost of painting , or any other aspect of the ship's 'decoration' came out of the captains pocket. The more pigment, the dearer the paint. Of course, some officers weren't short of a bob or two, and as always, to some, Bling is paramount. It makes sense to me at least, that timbers had a regular coat of linseed oil. Ships manifest included a considerable volume of the stuff. I think the tar was used on the rigging, tops and spars and probably on the wales. Sunlight, weather and repeated coatings would make this treated wood progressively darker over time. Can't remember where I read this, but the colours of the ships boats were painted with virtual washes of muted earth colours. The hull below the waterline being tallowed, presumably looking yellowish white, not pure white. I've often wondered if each boat had its own colour, including oars, masts, thwarts etc. as an aid to identifying what goes where. Again, dedicated officers boats could be embellished with Bling also. I think it would make sense that wood treatments would be more of a practical nature, with no consideration for future modellers desire to (understandably?) make there work ornamental, to some degree, to keep the wife happy!
  14. Marine Walk

    Distasteful as it may seem, it's no coincidence that the Marine's Walk was directly above the crew's latrines. The heads were out of sight from the rest of the ship, considering the size of the crew, there weren't many to go round. Presumably a duty Marine was there to monitor aspects of discipline. Doesn't take a lot of imagining. As for the quarter galleries; I'd be surprised if any meaningful view of anything shipboard was visible, let alone the set of the sails. What we accept as glass today as probably very different back then. I have read it was quite opaque, similar to lightly sand-blasted glass. Few if any modern models reflect this, if you'll pardon the pun.
  15. Gun Ports

    Came across this relevant info in my library today. The Ship Model Builders Assistant by Charles Davis. Pages 229 and 230. States that port dimensions are indeed related to gun calibre/diameter (c1750). He also includes American Navy gun ports (c1850), which are somewhat larger. Also included is a formula to calculate the diameter of shot from its weight. Useful stuff, I hope.

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