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  1. And an added bonus is that Vega is available in kit form 🙂 https://www.scalemates.com/kits/nordic-class-boats-107-skonaren-vega--1376306
  2. I have built neither, so I cant really give you any solid advice on which one to get. But at least I can sort out the Mamoli business 🙂 Mamoli is, or actually was, an Italian kit manufacturer that was around for a long time. If memory serves me, a fire destroyed most of their factory about 10 years ago or so. I believe they were family owned, and they decided not to rebuild the business. However, the up-and-coming (sort of) company, Dusek ship kits, secured the rights to the Mamoli designs, and have since then reintroduced most of the Mamoli range. As I understand it, Dusek has made improvements to most kits, in terms of laser cutting, easing construction. Maybe they also uppgraded fittings and castings, I am less sure about that. Dusek kept the Mamoli brand for their Mamoli kits, at least here in Europe. So two things to keep in mind when searching for the Mamoli Rattlesnake is 1) check both Dusek and Mamoli tabs on webshops it you at first can't find it, and 2) When you find one, ask if it is an "original" Mamoli or an "upgraded" Dusek, if it matters to you how much laser cutting is involved. (if the box looks like this, you can be sure its upgraded) I have built some other Mamoli kits years ago, my favourite being the Yacht Mary. I simply "click" with Mamoli kits, everything feels right, even if they never were state of the art. Should you like to follow other peoples bulilds and logs, I think there are far more on the MS Rattlesnake than the Mamoli one. Studying pictures alone (which I have done many times thinking about getting one myself), I dont see any clear advantage of the MS one, out of what is in the box. But I know nothing of the accuracy hull lines and such. I am sure others on this forum does 🙂
  3. The fishing vessel "HF.31 Maria" by Dusek might be close enough I think (but not the other Dusek kits I stand corrected, see Dubz post below 🙂 ). It has all planking strips pre-cut, along with a lot of other wooden parts pre-cut, and it takes full advantage of photot-etch for detailing. If this is what you are looking for in "similar building technique"? On Duseks product page you can have a look at the instructions for the kit, on the tab "Download" http://www.dusekshipkits.com/maria-hf31
  4. Alongside the Amati and Occre offerings already mentioned, there is also the Mystique by Corel to consider. It is in 1:50 scale. There is a nice build of it by Clark in the gallery; My expericenses with Corel (not this kit in particular) are: good plans that really helps you in the building process, very good wood, generally good detail - BUT (and this is the one big negative) the metal castings for decorations are sometimes a real dissapointment, being cast lumps of metal totally out of proportion. Corel also tends to "fake" the historical backrounds for some of their ships, but with the Mystique, which is more of a generic example of this type of vessel, that would not really be a problem I think.
  5. 7. Loose one more and replace with two (matching) "chasers" or carronades?
  6. No problem. I´ll do a "wanted" post in a Swedish Facebook group for model ship builders as well. Fingers crossed some old gentleman bought this kit as a boy and still have it
  7. That kit might be older than internet :-) making it hard to find the instructions. My best tip is to write Billing Boats and ask them to look around in therr archive. Even if its not even digital, it should be fast work to copy and scan :-) Or hope that someone on MSW has them stowed away somwhere.
  8. Looking good! I have been curious about what Dusek would do with their aquired Mamoli range. Looks like what the have done they have done well - but they have more to do (plans/instructions). I think I would have done option 1 or 3 - or maybe option 1 without the yard.
  9. Beautiful work! The Avos goes straight to the top on my "must build list". Hope GK Modellbau will have it in stock soon!
  10. Hi Steve! Note that I have built none of the two kits, but I am quite certain that the Amati Revenge is the kit with superior quality. That is not to say that Mamoli messed up the Sao Miguel, but Amati/Chris Watton develeped the Revenge kit just a few years back and I dare guess that the Sao Miguel kit was developed some 20-30 years ago. Mamoli could of course have upgraded the kit from time to time, but I'm not at all sure. You have built the Friesland, so you know roughly what to expect from Mamoli. I would however only buying one after being able to look into the box of that particular kit, to judge the age of the kit and quality of the parts (wood being brittle or corrosion in any metal). When looking just at "facts and numbers" the Amati Revenge would be the better choise over all in my opinion. I have built a couple of Amati kits and have always found them solid. I have built a couple of Mamoli kits to, and was pleased with them too, but their age is showing. But who cares when the subject of the kit is appealing :-) This build log might be of interest?: http://www.modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?23651
  11. Hi guys, and Jim, what a great build, a true little gem! As you have concluded already, this is the way the boat is designed. Its purpose was to fight for control over the vast archipelagos of Sweden and Finland (then one country) in the Baltic. Cheap and quick to build, and easy to man, it was intended to fight in line abreast (or in this case abaft ;-) in significant numbers, thereby blocking and hinder movement and manuvers of the enemy. Ideally they would try to flank the enemy fleet once it was comitted to battle. There were many variants of the concepts, I have seen plans and museum models with the main gun aft, fore, or both. With the gun aft, the rudder was designed to be shiped/unshipped fast and simple. This type of boat was the smallest component in Swedens "Archipelago navy" a fleet of special boats and ships up to frigate size, especially designed for archipelago warfare, a concept that evolved from the 1720s onwards. The fleet was independent from the rest of the Navy, being under control of the Army, indicating its role and imortance as an amphibious force. Russia was the main enemy and, of course, countered with similar forces. Design and deployment peaked in the late 18th century during wars with Russia. In the very (well in Sweden anyways) famous 2nd battle of Svensksund in 1790 the Archipelago navy gained real fame, when it turned the battle from certain destruction by the russians into what many regards to be Swedens greatest naval victory. The victory, perhaps a little too boosted in memory by the Swedish King Gustav III, made him overconfident, and during another war with Russia in 1808-1809, known as the "Finnish War", the armed forces were ill prepared, and the war was a disaster for the aggressor Sweden, ending up loosing Finland to Russia (Finland then gained independence in 1918, in the shockwaves of the communist revolution i Russia). What remained of the Archipelago navy in the earliest 19th century took a very defensive role, and was soon a thing of the past, due to technological progress, economic constraints and a new political landscape in the Baltic. Enough rambling from me, I just took the chance to honor your build with a bit of context, I suspect info about the Archipelago navy might not be in every bookshelf around the world! :-) Here's a painting showing the battle at Svensksund 1790, lower right shows a contigent of gunboats trying to edge around the russian line of larger vessels: And a museum model with a close resemblance to your model: //Markus
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