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Hi. There is also the below fishing tool which is called "Tie-fast knot tiyer" You can see its uses for ship modeling in the link. My way of seizing Thx

Hi Cristiano. I just visited your build log, and I find your work amazing. Congratulation for your search and certainly for your beutiful model. Thanasis

Congratulations George. I just show your progect, having stay away from Pcs for the summer and I'm amazed by your scratch building method and the excellent and beautiful result. I'm looking forward to see your work on "Karteria". Thx

Hi again. This is what I found in another book...

Hi. According to my library, Those blind chain plates, seem like additional suport (beneath) for the channels themself. The eyebolts could be fitted for general use...(?). Thx

Hi. See whether these sketces could help you... Thx

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Many thanks Liste. You are as always much analytic in your explanations. However I must say you set new elements in this discussion for which there are no (I don't have) any information from hystorical Gr texts I've read nor for the total Carron's products to rely on. These are the comertial for merchant use (special or by order I guess) carronade and the gunnade. And although I accept any simple description for the weapon from a ordinary sailor of that time, or from an with less knowledge historian, I don't know how to see this description from an English naval officer, who, I point out again, writes about gunnery results without ful information about the gun or its nationality. In any case, I really thank you all for this discussion which was much enlightening, at least to conclude that I can make only guesses. Thanasis

Thank you all for your participation. I must say that, like in some other threads in this forum, I'm trying to exam infos that are revealed in texts from here and there, about a weapon on a schooner. What was written, is that on the schooner was a "big cannon" or "a heavy gun" or "a 48pdr gun" or "a gun with big caliber" or "a carronade" or "an obusier (howitzer)" and so on. The weapon was set in the prow as chase gun and nothing more. So examing the case of a carronade and as far I know, between 1800-1822 there was not 48pdr carronade but as I recently found, a Spanish 48pdr obusier (howitzer) that was used in Trafalgar naval battle (1805). According to what is written the French answer to a " carronade" was a 36pdr obusier (howitzer) and I don't know I should say, that in this naval battle, the English were refering to French captured "obusier de vaisseau" (naval howitzer), as carronade. Next I'm coming to the use of that weapon. If was a carronad, could be used as chase gun? As I' ve read it was used as unti-personel weapon. Couldn't its small range be a problem as chaser? I also have read that there were many type of carriages for a carronade to be placed on but despite the way, I want also to exam how the Spanish vertion obusier (howitzer) could be operatted. And finaly about the shot (ball) of a 48pdr cannon. No matter what the weapon (48pdr carronade of the text) was loaded with , why on the schooner were shots (balls) of a 48pdr cannon? Many thanks

Thank you Wefalck. So, if I understand well, you also assume that. a. He refers to a carriage that was giving the ability to move the barrel also left or right. b. There should be a deck fitted pivot for securing the carriage and safe fire from the weapon. c.Yes, there was not traversing carriages at that time (1821) and especialy in a schooner, so that carronade coudn't be in a gun port possition. As about the shot, I gather that a 48pdr carronade could fire a 48pdr cannon ball under conditions. Thank you

Hi all again. Sorry, I was waiting the resurrection of my pc to get back... So I pretty please for your help to my following queries about the writing of the text in the first post. a.The writer describing the carronade, specifies that is on a swiver and what we assume, is that he reffers to a mounted pivot-carriage. If I'm not wrong, the carronades were produced mainly on a pivot-carriage and had the ability to move up and down by a screw. So, can we assume that by using the term "swivel", determines that it was placed on a carriage by which had also the ability to move left and right? And if is so, can we consider that this carronade was not placed in a gun port (which it would set limitations) but maybe amidship or in the prow? b. Why the writer again specifies that the carronade was loaded by "a shot (ball) from a 48pdr gun (cannon)"? I'm not familiar but this seems to me that the carronade was loaded with a non proper ammunition, something for its own. Am I right? I would like to have your opinions. Ps: My English can't help me to see the defference between pivot and swivel. Many thanks Thanasis

Thank you all. My last finding might explains everything.... I would appreciate if someone can confirm what I read somewhere that "the French supplied the Spanish with their own French made obusiers". http://www.histarmar.com.ar/InfHistorica/ArtilleriadeMarina/8-obuseros.htm