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I should be finishing off the last tweaks on Alert, but I couldn’t resist starting Vanguard’s Grecian at the same time. Other than JamesH who builds the prototype and provides an excellent build log too, I think I’m the first to do a build log on this kit, so I’ll try and provide a bit more detail than I did on Alert. The kit came very promptly via UPS and extremely well packaged in a robust, well designed box. Inside the box there’s a large range of laser cut wooden and MDF sheets. Except for the decks the wood is all pear. The laser cut on these sheets is incredibly clean and precise. Not all the sheets are shown below. There’s also a box of fixtures including high quality resin cannon. There’s copper tape for the hull, a resin cutter, 3 sheets of photo etch, box of thread for the rigging, pear and lime planking strips, dowels, Vanguard’s standard but brilliant colour building manual full of step by step photos and instructions, eleven large plan sheets, and a clear acetate cradle for the completed build. I went for all the extras too, so I bought the Grecian paint set, American flag, pear block set and PE copper plate set (not sure yet if I’ll use this or the tape - whichever is easier I suspect). It is all absolutely excellent quality. This will be my seventh Vanguard build and the first time that one of the parts came broken - a dowel. I messaged Chris and within a day or two he’d sent me a replacement. Amazing customer service. There’s one other tiny error in the instructions that in the inventory there’s a sheet of 0.1mm PE listed that wasn’t included. I asked Chris and he tells me that this was for copper sheet to face the rudder, but he couldn’t obtain the copper so it’s not needed for the build. I was curious how big the completed Grecian would be. So here is Nisha and Alert against a plan of her deck. She makes Nisha look tiny. And is bigger than Alert, but by less than I had expected. Cant wait to get building her!
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I've decided on the POB2 as my next build. I'll save the rigging of the Medway Longboat for that inevitable time when I get a little tired of this ship. I've chose this model for a few reasons. Lots of interesting deck work Lots of available resources Love the lines of this ship, and really like the way it looks under sail. That's the plan going in...To make this my first attempt at sails. ..And last but not least, while I was contemplating what to make next, the POB2 showed up in a MS email for 50% off. 🤑 I've been looking at the first chapter of Robert Hunt's practicum that is available on line, and I'm torn about ordering the package. It's a bit pricey, IMO, and there's a wealth of free info here in the MSW forums. That said, I really like the idea of step by step instruction, since I'm still quite the novice. Reading through the instruction manual that comes with the kit, I can pretty much say they're almost useless. The plans, on the other hand, look good and very detailed. I've got plenty to do before I would need chapter two of the practicum, since I tend to move at a snail's pace with this hobby. And I'm sure this build won't go any faster. The kit arrived and the parts all seem to be in order. The dowels for the masts resemble the letter "U" and will certainly not be used. Maybe I'll try rounding off square stock, or at least get some kind of hardwood dowels that are better than the horrible pine dowels supplied. Rigging and blocks will have to upgraded as well, as I've already been spoiled after using Siren line and blocks on the Kate Cory. I'll decide as I go how many of the cast metal fittings will be used. Either because they are out of scale, or because I'm going to leave some of the modern touches off this model, such as propellers, or just because they're just plain horrible. Anyway, the project has begun. Bearding line drawn in using a template that I cut from cardstock, followed by cutting a rabbet. Stern, keel, and bow glued into position and drying. reference lines have been drawn on the center keel, Next up will be cutting out, marking up, and fitting the bulkheads.
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Ok folks, This kit will be hitting the doormat tomorrow so I'll be starting work tomorrow afternoon. Again, this is a prototype for the kit, and I'll be doing the kit manual pics and text as I go. Some history, abridged from Wiki Grecian was an American schooner launched in 1812. During the War of 1812 she received a letter of marque. The Royal Navy captured her on 5 February 1814 and took her into service as HMS Grecian. She was sold in 1822. In 1823 she became a merchantman. In 1824 the Chilean Navy captured her, but she escaped, and thereafter may have served for a time as a Spanish privateer. After the end of the Peruvian War of Independence she apparently returned to more conventional pursuits and was probably lost in 1829 though she was still listed in 1830 as sailing between London and Lima. She had a long, curving stem, and a shallow, less convex bow. Grecian's first captain was James Phillips, and under him she had made one voyage to France. She received letter of marque No. 944 in December 1813, under Captain Knapp. She had not captured anything before the boats of HMS Jaseur cut her out under the guns of a battery field pieces on East River, in Chesapeake Bay on 2 May 1814. The British cutting out party under Lieutenant West, first lieutenant of Jaseur, rowed up silently in the night, drove Knapp and the seven members of the crew on watch below deck, fastened the hatches, cut her cables, and sailed off. The British commissioned her as HMS Grecian under the command of Lieutenant Henry Jewry. After the end of the Napoleonic Wars, Grecian was deployed on anti-smuggling duties in the Channel, and captured a good number of vessels, including Betsey, Nancy, and Market Maid. On 18 August 1818 Lieutenant Nathaniel Martin was appointed captain of Grecian. Between 30 August 1819 and 20 January 1820, Grecian made several small captures. Grecian made further sundry small captures on 16 May 1820, 27 March 1821, 20 April, 6 May, and 2 August. She was paid off in 1821. The Admiralty put Grecian up for sale in April 1822 at Portsmouth. She was sold to Joshua Crystall for £510 on 18 April 1822. Initial prototype photos These are the builds Chris did to test the initial fit of parts prior. Here is where initial changes take place before sending out the materials to me. There may still be changes made as I build, and I will then pass those onto Chris, but the hull of this is quite different to other gunned vessels, so the usual trials and tribulations will be much less. More stuff when the parts land here...
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This is my build of the Lady Anne (named after the wife – bonus points). If you squint real hard and tilt your head you may recognize the hull as the AL Harvey. Other than that it has been a whole lot of kit bashing. This model was given to me by someone who had just glued the bulkheads on and decided this just wasn’t the thing for him. Over time (as a break from the Druid) I have done a little bit here and a little there. I planked the hull as a standard model hull to demonstrate to someone else it wasn’t that hard, so there are planks that taper to points and no real attempt to mimic real practice. I had ‘assumed’ it would be built out of the box and continued in that direction. Then things started to get fuzzy. I knew that Harvey was a fictitious ship and things really started to bug me about how realistic it was. The deck furnishings especially just seemed haphazard and in some cases wrong. This is where I stepped out of the box and this fast build took a hard right into kit bashing. Over the years I had made a point of keeping pictures of ideas on real ships and models of things I really liked and I started to look at what I could add / substitute in this build. I started perusing books about clippers, especially ‘The American-Built Clipper Ship, 1850-1856’ by Crothers to look at deck arrangements used by Clippers (and believe it or not, I did find those outhouses shown on the Harvey. I don’t like them, but I found them). I cleared the decks (literally), made paper cutouts of potential deck furniture, and spent a lot of time pondering the imponderables. A big decision was to rig her as the Pride of Baltimore II was rigged, a true Baltimore Clipper. This defined the needed pinrails and deck tie downs required (as well as block counts which were a LOT more than the kit supplied). I moved the pumps aft to where they could actually do some good. The forward windlass was replaced with a windlass actually capable of bringing in an anchor. The capstan was moved to a position where it could actually be used, a below deck access was added and on, and on, and on. The last addition I added are cavels to allow easier docking. To retain its original heritage I created a 1:48th scale workman that I named sailor Harvey to verify heights as I proceeded. The deck currently has a configuration that I am happy with. The last original piece is the aft deckhouse and it just seems out of proportion for sailor Harvey to navigate through so that will probably be scrapped and an alternate built in its place. Oh, I retained the cannons since my son insists that cannons are cool and I couldn’t possibly take them off. I did, however, modify their locations, retain only six (continental breeched) and will probably have two of those stowed parallel to the bulkhead. As time allows I will post past pictures of the process I used to build various pieces and the rationale used for including them (which may just be I liked the look). I am really trying to focus on the Druid and get’r done, but this ship will be warming up. As usual, any comments are welcome. Mark
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This kit is over 35 years old, is no longer available, and deserves to be assembled. This is my first ship kit--I have built some simpler scratch built ships, but figure a kit with detailed insturctions will help me develop experience with more complicated details such as the deck furnatire and rigging. Artesania Latina's Harvey is a fictitious ship representiative of the Baltamore Clippers. I have William L. Crothers' wonderful book, "The American-Built Clipper Ship" and love the sleek lines of these fast ships. I started, of course, with assembling the Hull strcture and ran into problems right away. The plywood used for the false keel and bulkheads is a 1/4" thick, but the slots used to slide the parts together were less than this; the bulkheads were an overly tight fit on the flase keel. I ended up using a rubber mallet to pound the first one into place. An assembly step requiring a hammer should have been a red flag, but I soldered on and forced the bulkhead into place. This of course warped the keel out of the straight. But, even though this was a test fit and no glue was used, I could not remove the bulkhead and ended up busting the keel in half. I repaired the keel in an equally brutish manner, widened all of the slots with a dremel, and gave assembly of the hull another go. This time I used a square to hold the bulkheads in position, and was pleased with the results.- 36 replies
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Hello this is my first post on the new forum. I had a build log for the Byzantium on the old forum. do to a recent move I have not got much work done since the old forum went down. To sum up what was lost when the old forum went down I printed out the line drawings with my dads vinyl sticker machine. I cut the formers from some scrap plywood with my bandsaw. I ripped the planks from an old fence board with my bandsaw. I glued the planks together on the formers. I fiber glassed the hull then sanded half of the hull. today I started work on the Byzantium again now both sides of the hull are sanded and the model is ready for Bondo, which is still at the other house so I wont have it until the 20th when the next load of stuff comes up from the other house. I don't have my computer hooked up to the internet yet so I only have the pictures that I took today but I will post the older pictures when I get it hooked up to the internet.
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Gang, I got Model Shipway's Pride of Baltimore II kit to build as a first wooden ship kit recently, and, scanning the kit and instructions, the first thing that jumped out at me is that the center keel is no longer (as shown in the instructions) two pieces. Which makes me wonder... what else have they changed that they don't reflect in the (obviously not updated) plans or instructions? Anyone else here bought/built the kit recently? thanks, Doug Fair Haven, Vermont- 2 replies
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