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Berlin 1674 by Strelok - 1:100
Strelok posted a topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
Hi guys, After finishing my brandenburgian Golden Yacht, I was quite sure, that my next build would be a spanish 22-gun frigate in 1/63rd scale. But as I have neither the tools nor the money for the wood, guns and so on, I kept on looking for my next build. A few days ago, I found the plans for a ship called "Fregatte Berlin" and decided, to give them a try. Concerning the ship's history: She was a dutch-built pinnace (and not a frigate^^) and part of the electorial brandenburgian fleet - just like the Yacht. She was built in 1674 and entered brandenburgian service in the following years. In her first years, she was used for trading with the brandenburgian colonies in west africa and fought the spanish in the war of 1680/81 in the carribean. There she was part of a small fleet of five ships, which managed to capture two spanish galleons. Her end is unknown, but she remained in brandenburgian service at least until 1684. I am not quite sure, how I will build her: paper or wood? Only the hull or fully rigged? If wood, then painted or not? Over the last days, I worked on the plans. Your comments and advices are deeply welcome!
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Hi, I begin to try to form my build log and to upload first photos of my Frigate Berlin. I have not any experience to do these and I expect to succeed. The pixel quality is low but it will be better. In fact, I have begun this kit app. ten years ago, after 6-7 months of working on, I have left it at somewhere in my house. But whenever I saw it, I was feeling a fever to start again... Year 2010, then I overcame... The photos I have taken are belonging to the second period of my work. These photo are test for uploading... See you soon...
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Hello my friends and mates... It is time to come back to the shipyard. I will start my 4th build log now. Actually I wanted to make a longer break after finishing the Endeavour. But I am forced to stay home for some stress-related health problems and my doctor said I should better do some things to get relaxed and come back to the normal life... Well: What could be better than to build a model ship? I decided to build the Fregatte Berlin, 1674, from Corel in the 1:40-scale. As you may know I am german - so I wanted to have a look into the german history. In matter of naval history there is not so much to report about: Most of german naval history is part of the so called Hanse in Hamburg and other cities around North and Baltic Sea. Well known is the model of Wappen von Hamburg. As Germany was devided in numerous small counties, shires etc there was no united state with a big army or navy. Only Brandenburg, the region around Berlin up to the Baltic Sea, had a navy as it was situated in the north of Germany and had a entrance to the sea. And Brandenburg grew up to a important political entity, the later Prussia - and thus the very beginning of the German Empire. After the Thirty Years' War in 1648 Brandenburg became quite important. Passing the years the elector built up a Navy: There where some wellknown vessels incuded like Fleute Derfflinger, Große Yacht, Fregatte Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde and Fregatte Berlin. I think you all know about the history of the Fregatte Berlin. The model from Corel is based on the historical research by Mr Hoeckel, an expert for historic ships in the late 1930's. There is no real evidence how the ship was built in real. There are no documents or drawings and thus the plans Mr Hoeckel made where a summary of the ship building tradition in the midth of the 17th century in Holland. The Berlin was build according to the dutch tradition. The Corel kit is no longer state-of-the-art. The wooden parts are not precut with laser or water-jet but made with the saw. This means to all parts esp the frames and the keel that you have to be very cautious. All parts have to be worked with files and sanding paper. It's a lot of dust but it's more a building-feeling than the perfect prepared parts Occre or CalderCraft offer So I did and will still have to do before I can only think about glueing. I also prepared the metal fitting for the decoration of the stern. I will paint the parts according to a contemporary description I found in Mr Hoeckels book. So I sanded the parts and used some primer. I just did the first parts, the rest will follow. The plans are plans I love them I am looking forward but I am afraid as the model is only single planked with waltnut strips. Well, we will se. I estimate a building time of more than a year. Most of the parts have to be build and are not precut. Thats what I like Cheerio my friends - I am not sure how regulary I will work on the Berlin. Depends on my health conditions. I attached some pics - as usually Max
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Ahoy Mates Please find my initial “out of box” review of Corel's Frigate Berlin. Please note that I am relatively new to this hobby and "easily impressed". I found the quality of the parts in this kit to be of a very high standard. The kit includes four sheets of single sided plans, an instruction manual, a vacuum formed plastic organizer of bits, another containing the gilded metal fashion pieces, canvas sail material and of course some wood. Also included was a very nice “coffee table style” book/catalog of Corel’s products and a small wooden bending jig. In the future, I will do a full inventory all of parts and post any issues or changes. The wood supplied in this kit was "gorgeous". There was no trace of any laser burn on any of the parts, bulkheads and keel parts were all precut, packaged in bags. The plywood bulkheads and hardwood keel items were impressive in their size and the thickness of the wood used; this is a big kit. The planking and other lengths supplied were clean, straight, and rich in color suggesting pieces were individually selected. There were very few dowels leading me to believe that I will be making masts from "scratch". The only disappointment so far in the kit supplied wood; the instructions suggest scribing planks for the deck. This leads me to believe I will be purchasing some additional wood for this kit. The long boat is a pre-carved “plug” style build and again; nicely done. The four sheets of plans or plates were crisp, highly detailed, and very informative; including images showing systematically how to complete some of the steps. The two dedicated to rigging were clean, well organized and gave the reader a very good understanding of the task. I cannot attest to the accuracy of these plans however. Although very well thought out and clear, there is no sheer plan, half breadth views, or planking layout on any of the included sheets. The plan notes are all in Italian too, and 'for me" will need to be translated. Overall I found the plans to be very good and of exceptional quality. The rigging plot is the best I have seen to date. I will use the word “included" to describe the instructions: They only convey an order to the build and not much more (It is listed as an advanced kit). On a plus, the index in the back of this book was very informative providing an excellent resource/appendix to the plans. Images and print quality were top notch. English translations were understandable and at times humorous. The bits were well packaged and again of a high quality. Quite a few are boxwood (Blocks, deadeyes and belaying pins), all are either hardwoods or metal (brass, copper, or the gilded metal). I found no Britannia or plastic except for the lantern glass. The photo etch was copper and much thicker then any I have seen before and well done. Five types of rope are included. In the minus column, the instructions state that the kit does not contain any blocks for the cannons. The cannons themselves are "gilded metal"; a milled piece of hardwood creates the carriages. The Gilded metal pieces are all nicely detailed. They are cast and quite heavy. I am uncertain of their make-up but can tell they will need to be securely mounted. I have a small reservation regarding how these parts will handle any tuning, changes, or touch ups. The construction of this kit will require some additional tools and skills for me to work the harder wood. Look for my build log sometime in 2014/15 here on MSW. Please feel free to post any questions you might have regarding this kit. I will do my best to answer them. For now I have re-sealed all the packages (less the plans and instructions) and stored the box in what I hope will be a safe location. I purchased this kit on sale from Model Expo (Presidents day sale). I feel I received much more then I paid for.
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Hi all! Like most members I don't have a backup of my (lost) logs but since I have a log in a German forum in parallel as well I can re-create it nearly as it was (without the replies from other members of course) by translating the German version, but this will take some time. But to begin with here is a picture of my model as it looks now: Introduction: Data and sources of the model and the ship: All (or better the little) I know about the frigate Berlin goes back to the appropriate chapter (by Hans Szymanski) in the book Buch „Risse von Schiffen des 16. und 17. Jahrhunderts“, Verlag Delius Klasing (now out of print) and the plans attached the book. These plans are a re-construction done by Horst Hoeckel in the 1930s . Dimensions: Length: 80 ft – 22,65 m Breadth: 22 ft – 6,23 m Armament: 10 four-pounders, 2 three-pounders and 3 two-pounders Horst Szymanski mentions in the book that Hoeckel came to slightly different dimensions when making his re-construction. Unfortunately no sources are mentioned in the book. There is a contemporary painting (1684) by the Dutch artist Lieve Pietersz Verschuir showing the fleet oft he elector of Brandenburg on which also the Berlin is shown (relatively small in the background – marked in red) I don’t know if the original painting is large enough to show sufficient details as basis for a reliable re-construction. I could not find any other sources or information for the original ship. All kits or plans of Berlin which I have seen seem to go back to Hoeckel’s re-construction. This again obviously is based on a contemporary plan of a Dutch pinnace in the Scheepvaartmuseum (maritime museum) in Amsterdam. There are no original plans of Berlin and no other contemporary painting of her exists and I believe that from the painting shown above it is even not clear if Berlin was really a single decked pinnace or a small twodecker (as other Brandenburgish frigates were). So maybe Hoeckel was right in assuming that Berlin looked similar to this Pinnace, maybe not. I believe however that a full size replica built according to Hoeckel‘s plan would not have looked odd in a Dutch harbour in the second half of the 17th century. Short history oft he ship: The ship is a pinnace and was built 1674 in the Dutch province Zeeland on account of Benjamin Raule, the organizer of the navy of the elector Friedrich Wilhelm of Brandenburg, who has then chartered the ship from Raule. From 1676 to 1678 the ship operated in the Baltic Sea against Sweden. In 1679 six Brandenburg warships - one of them the Berlin - seized several merchant vessels of Hamburg, 1680 Berlin together with four other frigates captured the Spanish 50 gun ship „Carolus Secundus“, afterwards until 1681 the Berlin together with some other ships operated in the West Indies, were three Spanish ships were taken. In 1687 Berlin sailed as ship of the „Brandenburgish Africa Company“ to West Africa and was confiscated by the „Dutch Westindia Company“ in 1688 and this was the end of Berlin’s career as a Brandenburgish warship. The model: I have built the model in the particular style oft he English Navy Board models. I am aware that it is to some extent a contradiction to build a model of a Dutch ship in the way English Navy board models were built in the 17th century) but this model is a way for me to study this building method and to learn about the difficulties connected with it by building a small model (without doing a lot of research) before turning over to something bigger (what I have in mind is building a Navy board model of HMS Resolution 1667 based on my own re-construction) length oft he model: approx. 450 mm (17 ¾“) from figurehead to taffrail scale: 1: 64 resp. 3/16 inch per foot material: pear maple fort he green stained klinker planking and the blue stained planking of the stern and some carvings Framing of a Navy Board model: Before I begin the actual build log I‘d like to explain shortly the particular style of framing of English Navy Board models: The frames consist of floor, first and second futtocks (toptimbers), the hull is not planked below the main wales. The decks consist of deck beams, carlings and ledges and are only partially planked to allow a view to the interior. Some experts believe this method of framing is just stylized, others believe that English ships were really built like this in the early 17th century. This particular style of framing has however been retained (with some small alterations) for Navy board models until about the mid 18th century. The following picture shows the typical arrangement of a frame of a Navy board model consising of floor, first futtock and second futtock. On the left hand side the midship frame (in this case my own re-construction of HMS Resolution), in the center the side view and on the right hand side the individual parts, the red marks show the position of the feet of the first and second futtocks And this shows the same in wood: There were different variaties of Navy board framing but it is not the object of this log to describe them all. For all interested in this subject I recommend the book Navy Board Ship Models 1650 – 1750 by John Franklin. Navy board models were not planked below the main wale. The decks were built accurately from all required parts i. e. deckbeams, carlings, ledges, knees etc. but the planking was carried out only partially. The next part will deal with the building of the framing of the model cheers Klaus
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A friend of mine saw a person about to throw out a model of the Berlin into the garbage bin. He grabbed it and brought it around and gave it to me. It is in a pretty poor state but I am detirmend to rebuild it. I have been looking at a Berlin build by Ferit Kutlu. Have included a photo of my HMS Victory by Jotika. 4 years and just about finished, life boats and that's it. Will keep you all up to date as I slowly rebuild the Berlin. John Edwards
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