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I've had this old AL kit in storage for a long time and thought it would be a good subject to improve my planking skillset. The box has a copyright date of 1978. I probably acquired it in the '80s. I got as far as putting the false deck on the bulkheads but that seems to be as far as I got prior to giving up in frustration many years ago. I am now working on tapering the keelson and frames to apply the bottom layer of planks. The drawings show a sharp taper is needed at the bottom before application of the bottom planks. This method is new to me as previously I have used the rabbet method on other builds.
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Hi everyone, Here is my slow-time build log of the Dallas Cutter. The pictures are a bit rough and ready and were taken originally as a memory jogger for myself...little did I know.... 😉 The Dallas was started 25 years ago and I got as far as finishing the hull before the project was put into cold storage. Here is the front cover of the box which contained all the parts, 3x very good layout drawing sheets and a (sometimes confusing) 15 page Instruction Booklet 25 yrs ago the hull starts to get the planking fitted. Hull planking finished. Decking started. Hull and decking finished, mostly. June/July 2020. Deck fittings etc installed. Some parts highlighted with 'Canadian Cedar' Danish Oil. Railings being installed. Note: new £15 battery powered Banggood 'Dremel' bottom right. It works OK and battery lasts a reasonable time. However the supplied brass collets don't have their holes drilled in the centre of the collet so drills cut slightly large (and vibrate). I also have an actual battery powered Dremel + extension cable, but it is a bit heavy handed for the finer work. Almost ready for masts and rigging. Dummy deck idea, to facilitate the assembly of mast and rigging away from the 'real' ship to prevent damage to deck fittings. I'm unsure whether I'll actually use this dummy deck...might just fit straight onto real ship....pondering. OK, that's it for now. Any advice/comments gladly received. All the best, Richard
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I am building the Revenue Cutter Dallas from 1815. The rigging plans show no ratlines. This is simpler for me since this is my first attempt at rigging but is it accurate? How would the crew have tied up the sails other than by climbing up to the yards? Would they have just used a one of the ropes? The Cutter 'Alert' plans from around the same time also have no ratlines. The American schooner in Petersson's 'Rigging Period Fore-and-Aft Craft' does have ratlines but that is for a larger ship. So what do people think? Thanks, Richard. p.s. I assume the yard would have had foot ropes?
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When I started on the Dallas Cutter (25 years ago) I wasn't aware enough to incorporate two captive nuts into the hull/keel area for the eventual mounting of pedestals. This week I received a base and a pair of pedestals (29mm high, slot 8mm deep x 5mm wide, with a 4mm appx through hole). The pedestals would need a means of fixing to the keel of the Dallas that didn't involve nuts inside the hull. Also, the slope on the keel meant that using two pedestals of the same height caused the deck to slope unnaturally. I turned a wooden 5mm thick spacer (on the right of the pic below) to lift up one of the pedestals to compensate for the keel slope, and stained it to match the wooden base. As for fixing the base to the keel, I threaded the pedestal with a 2 BA tap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Association_screw_threads) to match two suitably long, slotted head, countersunk machine screws. With a 1mm drill in a hand-held Dremel (I don't have a small, high speed pillar drill) I drilled through the pedestals' rears (and partially into the fronts). These 1mm holes are for accepting 1mm dia brass attachment rods - see below. As seen below, the Dallas was then mounted on the pedestals (now screwed onto the base) and using that same 1mm drill (now in a pin vice), I drilled into the keel using the existing pedestal holes as a drill guide. I then dry fitted the brass rod. The drill holes will aways be at the rear of the display so no one will see them. (Note: drill one hole first and then insert the brass rod in to it before drilling the second hole in the keel - to prevent the keel slipping out of position). Although the pic below seems to show there is still a bit of a slope to the deck it's isn't that noticeable in reality. The Dallas deck slopes upwards to the bow and stern, being horizontal only in midships. And the the holes etc will be towards the wall so will not be visible. I will also put a short 90 deg bend on the rods' external ends to give purchase if I ever need to extract the rods. I'll use a small dab of Evostick to hold the rods in position. I'll finish the base off by gluing green felt to the underside. Richard
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I started this build almost 30 years ago. After completing the hull and deck fittings it was packed away (in newspaper dated 1986). I moved from to the US from the UK in 91 and brought it with me. Needing something to do to relax, I decided to restart the build and try my hand at masts and rigging. We'll see how relaxing tying small knots turns out to be! Progress so far: Basic inventory - except for rigging line, everything seems to be there. Damage - one pump handle is broken. Tools - purchased a few obvious hand tools; tweezers, rigging toolset, new x-acto blades, built a small (12"x24") workbench. Reading - as well as this site, I have copies of Ship Modeling Simplified (Frank Mastini) and Model Sailing Ships - Design and Construction (Robert F. Brien). Immediate to-do's: Read the books and plans - I need to get a better handle on terminology and techniques. Decide on any changes to existing hull work. Calculate size and quantities of rigging line - I'm thinking of using line from Syren. Start work on yards and booms. Some pictures: The original box Minor damage after a 3800 mile journey Lots still to do
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Hello all, What a great website. Been reading it for a few weeks - so much to absorb 🙂 I'm halfway through building my first ship (Artesani Latina Dallas 1815 Cutter), and about to commence the masts and rigging...gulp! I actually started the Dallas about 25 yrs ago but a job change etc got in the way so the mostly completed hull + box of parts was tucked away in a safe corner of my attic for a rainy day. With the current quarantine/shielding situation the rainy day has arrived, and I restarted working on the Dallas a few weeks ago and found I really enjoyed it. So much so that I ordered Vanguard Models Fifie for my next project, and it arrived this morning. My background is design engineering and business development. Anyway, I thought I said 'hello', and congratulate the admin and members on one of the best hobbyist sites I've ever seen. All the best, Richard
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I have decided to start a build log of the Artesania Latina kit Dallas. The model is already in an advanced stage. I do however have a few photos of the the process after the hull was planked. Some of the text and a photo or two, I have copied from a previous thread I started on the splash boards that are featured on the three William Doughty revenue cutter plans of 1815. The two paragraphs below are from my earlier thread. I have been Kit bashing the AL Dallas revenue cutter. I have done a lot of research and collected a lot of materials on the Doughty revenue cutters circa 1815. See Chapelle's History of American Sailing Ships, chapter four. By the way, the AL kit is not the Dallas, as it depicts the 79 ton cutter. The Dallas was the 51 ton Doughty cutter. I have also collected the plans of the the Ranger,(a Corel kit) a non existent ship, which is also a Doughty revenue cutter circa 1815. The three Doughty cutters ares 31 ton, 51 tons and 79 tons. Prior to beginning my build I collected a lot of research on Dallas. Then one day I was Reading Don Canney's book US Coast Guard and Revenue Cutters and he stated that Dallas and It's sister Surprise were the 51 ton Daughty design cutter. I was shocked. Chapelle says 80 tons. How could this be? So I called him, told him of my shock and requested his source. A few weeks later he called back and directed me to the David Gelston Papers at Mystic Seaport. Gelston was the collector of revenue in NY City. The papers contain the correspondence From Secretary Dallas that orders and directs its building by Adam and Noah Brown. The papers contain the contract and later the certification of the ships measurements. I began researching more and collected a research partner along the way. YUP 51 tons. No doubt. I am in the process of writing an article or two. I have a very rough draft so far. An other problem is that two vessels were built at the same time. One went to Savannah. The other went to Massachusetts. Not South Carolina. I now call my model the Ship that Is NOT the Dallas. Still looking for data to determine a name for any 80 ton Cutter built to the Daughty large plan. The Ship was contracted for in August of 1815, Launched in Oct 1815, Delivered to its captain in New York City in Dec. 1815 and is reported at Savannah shortly before the end of the year. The ship served until Nov. 1821 when it was sold out by public auction in Charleston SC. I have a complete copy of the Coast Guards Record Of Movements. For the early boats there are a lot of errors and inconsistencies in this work.
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