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I have always been a fan of tall ships, since childhood in fact. Remember the Navy recruiting poster, sailor holding a kid’s hand in front of Old Ironsides herself? That poster has stuck with me all these years (although ultimately I joined the Marines instead of the Navy). Anyway, stop me if you’ve heard this one before. 2002 Festival of Sail in San Diego, California. Toured something like 14 tall ships from around the world. Walking out of the Berkley I spy the gift shop and some wooden ship model kits, and the Prince de Neufchatel really calls to me. I take her home to our apartment – no “shop”, no tools, no skills. I proceed to get the false keel and frames together (relatively) square, attach the false deck and some fundamental shaping of the bow and stern blocks, and then – nothing. Over two decades, I was able to plank the deck with a new exacto knife in hand. Fitted the plywood bulwarks and transom stern. A couple of false starts planking the hull occurred, neither of which was pretty to watch. And so she sat in “ordinary” (storage) for, as I said, 20 years. Then last month, after a marathon “Pirates of the Carribean” watchfest with the kids, I brought the Prince back out. A little “battle damage” to the bulwarks with busted out gunports, but all in all she aged well. And now I am committed.
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This space is reserved for me to repost/rewrite my build log from when I picked the hobby back up in 2011 and started to fix errors on my Prince de Neufchatel (PdN) that I had stopped working on in 2006. This log will pick up with a completed hull that had gunports in the wrong positions and poorly planked bulwarks.
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Hello, After being distracted with other projects, it’s time to resurrect a previous build log of this shelf queen, Model Shipways (Now not so popular) 1/64 Prince De Neufchatel. Operated as a privateer for the United States during the War of 1812. Started the project back in 2015 as my third build and suffered some analysis paralysis late 2018. Since 2018, it has resided on the shelf in this current state. Hull planking and deck planking (Alaskan Cedar) is completed on its completed base. My daughter was born in 2016, it’d be very sentimental to complete this build considering this picture of her as an infant. I have a better understanding of ship model building since then and am better equipped to get beyond the vague instructions and drawings. I’ve also acquired the Smithsonian Plans which should also assist. Plan to display bare poled, level of rigging is to be determined.
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I will begin by explaining my choice of this kit. As some of you may be aware from my posts in other logs, I have really been taken by the barque Stefano kit from Marisstella. I decided, however, that I am no longer capable of, nor willing to commit to, such a large, complex multi-year build with endless rigging. My age (78) and diminishing dexterity in my hands, just seemed to rule out such a project. When I started Halifax, I had pretty much decided to go with smaller vessels in larger scales, but upon looking around for my next project, I couldn't really find anything that I wanted to do that would fill those criteria. I came across the Prince de Neufchatel (PdN) kit on E-bay (it has been out of production for a number of years), and it seemed to be something of a compromise for my goals. While the model is large and at 1:64 scale, it is a fairly open and straightforward build with a rig that would not be as challenging to me as the Stefano. I bought the kit as brand new in it's original sealed box and was delighted to find that the keel former and bulkheads, although 12+ years old, were straight and true and good to go. I will spare you all from another display of kit contents, as they have been shown in other logs here. I am attaching a copy of the photo from the kit box. I have not fully figured out what I intend to do to enhance the kit, but some things are fairly certain: I will plank the upper hull with boxwood, plank the deck with holly and copper the lower hull. I expect to use boxwood to replace the kit wood for the deck furniture and will certainly use Syren blocks and rope for the rigging. Other changes may be made as well. I've cleared away the debris from the Halifax build, and I'm ready to go. I hope you will join me for the ride. Bob
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I’m taking a break from the Victory and building the Prince de Neufchatel from plans in American Sailing Ships by Howard I. Chapelle. So far I’ve traced the hull lines and resized them to 1/72 scale.
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I picked up this kit second hand and thought it would provide lots of fun and challenge. Although it is no longer available from Model Expo there are 4 or 5 build logs here on MSW. The PdN is also the subject of a book by Philip Reed - Period Ship Modelmaking - An Illustrated Masterclass. I'll dispense with the kit contents photos as you can find them on other build logs. Wish me luck - I think I can use it!
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Hello Everyone, Here begins my build log for my Prince de Neufchatel. I've had this one waiting in the wings for a while, and now its number has come up. It's very early in my build and as you'll see below, my pictures aren't very interesting yet. However I have already encountered some dilemmas. I was never sure why this kit was discontinued as I think it's a particularly beautiful and interesting ship, but I am now beginning to believe that the kit needed a major design overhaul and rather than do that, they simply discontinued it. The instructions suggest that the first layer of planking should go on before the keel, stem pieces and stern piece are installed, and no rabbet be cut. I can’t see how that would work very well. I can't imagine getting a nice edge, particularly at the stem to attach the stem pieces to. And at the deadwood area, if it’s not reduced in thickness, then the first layer of planning would add 1/16” to each side of the 3/16" false keel, plus the thickness of the second layer of planking. That means the keel, stem, stern pieces and the rudder would all have to be double planked as well, which would give a pretty thick result. I decided to reduce the deadwood area, and create a rabbet nevertheless. I’ve also added the stem, keel and stern pieces prior to planking, which brings me to the second anomaly. The false keel and the stem pieces are all 3/16”, but the piece they give you to use for the keel and stern piece is much thinner and it just won’t work. So, I made up keel and stern pieces by laminating some old leftover material. I had to use a combination of basswood and walnut to get the dimensions I needed, so it looks a bit funny, but it works. My intention now is to set the first layer of planking into the rabbet, making it flush with the stern piece, but planking the stem, keel, stem and rudder with the thin second planking along with the hull. Since the bulkheads throughout the centre run of the hull extend all the way to the bottom of the false keel, I've have to reshape them slightly to allow the garboard plank to lay right. I’m hoping this will all work out ok and that I haven’t missed something that should be glaringly obvious. Now, the bulkheads – the false keel is 3/16” which is fine, but the bulkheads are only 1/8” and they are basswood, not plywood. They will be easy to fair, but they are very flimsy. Furthermore, the slots in the false keel are all 3/16”! It’s very difficult to get them positioned and I’m having to shim every one of them. I was worried that if I got them positioned inconsistently I’d never get the false deck to fit, so I did a dry fit and discovered that if I shimmed the bulkheads all in the same direction, I should be ok. We’ll see. I actually need two different sizes of shims, the parts are so poorly milled. I know there is always some tweaking to get the bulkheads to fit nicely, but this is beyond anything I’ve seen before. I’m a little concerned about what further surprises are in store; I think this will be a more challenging build that I first imagined it to be. Adding the bearding line, contrary to instructions My "two-tone" keel and stern post and deadwood area reduced the thickness of the first layer of planking. Some shimmed bulkheads installed. They will definitely need support blocks. I hope the false deck will fit. Gluing in the bulkheads is always a tedious job, so while I wait for each one to dry, I’ve been shaping the masts and yards, which is going very nicely. (Some good news.) I’m always pleasantly surprised by how good a result can be achieved with just a #10 blade and some sandpaper. Sorry this post is so long and contains so much griping. Let’s hope for shorter and cheerier next time. David
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Well then... haven't been on in a couple of months and have found that, well, everything is toast. Sad. But not to beat the already dead horse i'm going to ask you all before reuploading pictures. Should I go back and repost what I have done, or just pick up where i left off? My gut is telling me everything up till now, as to restore some posterity. it's just a coupl of years worth of stuff, and I hope I remeber it all enough to do it justice. With that said, welcome back everybody!
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Hi everyone, new guy here, my name is Joe. I've been lurking for about a month and thought it was time to post the build log of my 95% completed Model Shipways Prince De Neufchatel. This is my fourth wooden ship build, with MS "Elsie", Mamoli "Portsmouth" and Corel "Unicorn" being the others. I started this way back in 2000, and it has languished off and on in my attic while I've built plastic aircraft models and such. I've been re-energized to complete it and have accomplished a lot over the last few months. Since I haven't completed a build since 2000 my wooden ship skills are a bit rusty, but it's slowly coming back. I've made a number of changes, right or wrong to the kit, most obviously changing the kit carronade carriages out for scratch sleds; just think it looks better with carronades, and more likely as well... I see a lot that I would do differently if I were starting over today, but that's all for the next build. Meanwhile, here are some photos of where she stands today. Standing rigging is nearly complete, with a few back-stays, and one side of the topmast ratlines to go. A few running lines are up. I'm really looking forward to being part of what seems like a great group here at MSW.
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