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  1. Hi folks, the new project. I am not the sole builder of this model which is a club project for the Ship Modelling Society of Victoria. I am coordinating the build, doing the research, drawing the plans and assisting in the build process. I am providing this log as she is an interesting ship and I thought members may be interested. While designed as a warship along the lines of the contemporary Arrow and Vigilant Classes of Gun Dispatch vessels, she was operated in various roles, with only a very short period of active duty as a commissioned ship during the Maori Wars in New Zealand. Her Majesty’s Colonial Screw Sloop (HMCSS) Victoria was built for the defence of the Colony of Victoria during the gold rush era. The above image is a copy of a purchased image from The Illustrated London News which shows her during her Builders Trials. Additionally, as much of the hull construction has already been completed, I will providea summary of this part of the build only. Some questions related to researching this ship have been asked previously in other forums (see following links): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/5574-cat-head-dimensions/?hl=%2Bhmcss+%2Bvictoria http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3754-rigmaiden-patented-lanyard-plates/?hl=%2Bhmcss+%2Bvictoria http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3780-emergency-tiller-for-hmcss-victoria-question/?hl=%2Bhmcss+%2Bvictoria
  2. Hi world! I want to show you my current ship model project: the sloop Mediator. I found the plans of this ship in Howard I. Chapelle book named 'The search for speed under sail, 1700-1855'. I thought it would be an interesting ship for a first scratch work. In the National Museum of American History, Washington, DC, there is a ship model of the Mediator: http://etc.usf.edu/clippix/picture/the-mediator.html And it is my ship model today: Please, let me to show slooooowly the building process step by step. P.S: Apologizes to everyone for my awful English. P.P.S: I put my drawings in this first post. I'll update if any change happens. P.P.S: Add a direct link to all photographs I have about the Mediator buid: https://picasaweb.google.com/113346618105593843079/6058494423241948545?authuser=0&feat=directlink Mediator plans set.pdf
  3. I started this build on www.bottledshipbuilder.com. It fits with the mission of that site but the idea of this build is one I've had for a long time and it began with MSW members in mind so I thought I'd bring it over. To give a little history and the idea of what this build is, it started with a pet peave of mine. Those that have seen me on the forum have probably seen that I have been critical of ship in bottle kit's out there. I have seen a lot of MSW members and members of my local club take interest in ships in bottles then try a kit and end up never wanting to build ships in bottles again. As many of you also know ships in bottles is something I'm passionate about. Probably overly so. I'm not sure I can explain that passion. For me it's something magical. I get a ship into a bottle and I stand back and I'm still amazed that I was able to do it. I know the process but it still amazes me. The other part of that passion is those that helped me get to where I'm at. I feel like I was very lucky I got into ship in bottle building when I did. I found these small groups with cheerful members willing to share their ideas and I learned very quickly. I owe a lot to the members of the Ship in Bottle Association of America. Unfortunately SIBAA closed a couple years ago and www.bottledshipbuilder.com and the Facebook ship in bottle builder group what's left of the organization. Much like ship modeling in general ship in bottle building is a dying art. In an effort to keep it alive and pass on the knowledge that was given to me I like to share ship in bottle building methods and knowledge. So it bugs me a bit when a company puts out a model that is overly difficult and turns people off to building ships in bottles. In my personal opinion there is currently no kit on the market that gives what members of MSW would look for in a ship in bottle kit. The closest one is Amati's but I think they made their ship to tight of a fit which has given a lot of beginning ship in bottle builders trouble. Every other kit is to kiddish to be taken seriously by members of MSW. I had thought for a long time about making my own kit. I've explored that process and found a lot of complications to it. Besides that for a patience bottle builder I'm not very patient. I have a hard time measuring and writing all the details so I decided on a different approach. In an effort to give this information as freely as it was given to me I am posting a how to build log. It will detail all the steps for a simple ship in bottle build. The idea being if I were to make a ship in bottle kit for beginners this is what it would look like. Since I'm not detailing every measurement this also acts as a guide to scratch building. If you can build this ship you can use the same techniques to build others. Also this gives builders the ability to size it up or down as needed. I want this to be a great starting place for those want to try ship in bottle building and I'm hopeful I can present it in such a way that will share the magic of it and have builders wanting to try more.
  4. Hi, I have introduced my self on here . As I said before, after many years, finally I have found some time to enjoy ship model building. Since I'm new in this hobby, I have decided to start with The American Bermuda Sloop "Jamaica". The Bermuda sloop is a type of fore-and-aft rigged sailing vessel developed on the islands of Bermuda in the 17th century. In its purest form, it is single-masted, though some ships with such rigging can be built with as many as three masts, which are also known as Schooners. Its original form had gaff rigging , but evolved to use what is now known as Bermuda rig, which had been used on smaller Bermudian boats since the early 17th century, making it the basis of nearly all modern sailing yachts. Although the Bermuda sloop is often described as a development of the narrower-beamed Jamaica sloop, which dates from the 1670s, the high, raked masts and triangular sails of the Bermuda rig are rooted in a tradition of Bermudian boat design dating from the earliest decades of the 17th century. (Taken from Wikipedia). Here in Serbia, it is quite difficult to find brand name ship model kits, so I have contacted shipbuilder's association "Kormilo" from Kraljevo to buy a kit. Guys, Milos and Marko, has founded the association in 1998 and after many years, decided to make kit completes, so builders from Serbia can find enough material and instructions to enjoy this hobby. Since I'm new and would like to improve my building ability, I will appreciate any comment from experienced builders. BUILD LOG #1 Before I started with a build, I have made building slip. I have improvised the toll using material that I have found at home. The building slip gave me the ability to start the building with the right angle on all axes. I have checked whether all bulkheads fit the keel and after that, each one is glued. Since this is my first wooden model build, I have added balsa support between three first and last bulkheads, which will make it planking easier for me. Also using the template from a ship plan I have made a deck and mount it on a hull. So far so good. Next is planking. Hopefully, I'll be lucky enough to do it well. Regards. M.
  5. Williamo

    Brittany Sloops

    Currently interested in the evolution of the working sloops of Brittany, and finding relevant contemporary drawings.
  6. Williamo

    Newbie

    Hi, My name is Bill. I live in Brittany in France. I am a new member, currently building the Corel Sloop (or Sloup), and researching the history of these work- boats on the south and north coasts of Brittany. They have beautiful lines. I am also interested in developing CNC techniques to improve fairing of frames and planking in a general way for wooden hulls. Happy to hear from anyone with interests in these areas.
  7. After a lot of back and forth between the Fair American and this kit, I decided to go for the AVS. It seems to be a fun and exciting build. I think it would be a great opportunity to get some additional skills for the next build on my shelf: Fair American, HMS Unicorn, ... Let's begin!
  8. Hi all Wondering if anyone may have a copy of " BUILDING THE SWAN CLASS SLOOP PEGASUS 1777. Volume III by Greg Herbert" at a reasonable price. I am after working on the HMS Pegasus model and want to use the book as a means to get information and ideas. The book is available but at a rather hefty peice so I thought i'd see here first. Many thanks Terry
  9. Hi, In Historic Dockyards in Chatham (UK) is preserved HMS Gannet 1878 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Gannet_(1878) Tadeusz
  10. Hello MSW, First off thanks for checking out my inaugural wooden kit build. I will do my best to document my experience bearing in mind that this kit has been discontinued by Constructo. For the record: these are completely uncharted waters for me so I will likely be asking lots of specific questions. I have read a number of build logs on MSW now and done a fair bit of research, but I am looking forward to finally engaging with the community. Without further ado, from Toronto where we have some proper arctic weather (feels like -27°C), here is The Gjøa. For those unfamiliar, The Gjøa was the ship with which Norwegian Explorer/Capt. Roald Amundsen first sailed the Northwest Passage. Below are photos from my first afternoon. The false keel/bulkhead board was thankfully (relatively) warp-free so I jumped right in. I was also happy to see that the false keel was 4mm thick, and rigged up a keel clamp using a couple of camera tripod ballheads, a 4mm thick piece of aluminum (used to offset camera flashes) on a 90° attachment, and some small clamps. Since this kit doesn't allow for a building board/groove this spot was a concern for me, but so far everything seems to have worked out to my eye. FYI I was actually working on an old tripod, and since gluing/taking the photos I have repositioned the clamps to provide more support. First feelings: relief. Constructo's english instructions aren't so bad. The wood seems to be a nice quality/tone (Sapele, Ayous, Manzonia, Mukaly, & Anatolia for masts), and I'm feeling pretty decently prepared for a beginner. I know the hard parts are yet to come. I look forward to feedback. Off to sand her down for the deck, Simon *edited for font size.
  11. Hi All, This is my first Scratch Build Log on MSW. I am currently in the closing stages of my Caldercraft/Jokita HM Mortar Vessel Convulsion build, and needed a break from the tiny bits of the build, so I started this build. Background: Since I was a kid, I've been building, modifying, tweeking, and sailing on sailing boats, from Optimist dinghies to large Swan 65's, but my real ambition in life is to build a sailing boat for myself. About 3 years ago I decided that I would build the Vagabond Keel Sloop designed by the Naval Architect Edwin Monk. Vagabond measures 19'-6" (6.00 metres), and the study plans were available in a book called "How to Build Wooden Boats - With 16 Small-Boat Designs", written by Edwin Monk. The design is for a hard chine hull shape, making it easy to build for the novice boat builder, but my intention for my potential full scale build was to soften up the chines, and make her hull slightly easier on the eyes, and quicker on the water. So why build this model? Firstly, it's is to see what the hull form looks like in reality. I can just about read hull drawings, and understand the sheer lines and profiles, but I'm not a boat builder or Naval Architect, so it's not as simple as reading the lines and putting two and two together. Secondly, I spoke with my mother on Sunday night. She said she wanted me to build her a "little boat" that she "could put on her mantle piece". No matter how many times you say "I don't have the space for another model build", or "I don't have enough materials", you can not say "no" to your mother! So I had a think, and thought about my aspirations with Vagabond a few years earlier, and decided to do it! I decided to build Vagabond as it seemed like an easy build, with a simple rig, and looks pretty! Meets all the criteria! Build Process: The plans are drawn (or have been redrawn) at a scale of 1:20, so I directly transferred the dimensions from the study plan to the model. Having study plans readily available in the book, and having three strips of 1/8 inch Balsa (3mm Think), I started by tracing over the outline of the keel and main bulkheads, four in total, and doubled them up to make them 1/4 inch thick. Using some square stock balsa I had remaining from my Convulsion build, I used that to square up the bulkheads and attach the deck (1/8th Balsa) to the keel. Because this boat is designed with fairly agressive chines (it was designed in the 50's or 60's, so the chines haven't been 'optimised' like modern day performance yachts), I rounded off the corners of the chines and using the study plans measured out the planks on both sides. I ran the planks along the bulkheads and trimmed them to suit, pinning and gluing them down when happy. To give additional strength to the balsa, I squeezed a blob of PVA glue on to the planks, and ran it along all the seams between balsa planks. After the PVA glue had 24 hours to dry, I covered the whole hull in wood filler, to smooth out any areas that may be dipping, and left out any raised areas. I've not taken any photo's at this point as it is has been a "spur of the moment" build, it's only now that I've decided to start a build log. Next Stage of Build: So, my next objectives on the build are to sand the hull smooth, and then plank the hull with the remaining Walnut strips from my Convulsion and President builds. The waterline will be painted white, and the topsides either varnished or oiled. The cockpit and deck will be painted white, and the cockpit coamings and dog house will be planked in walnut as well. I am employing my wonderful Admiral to make sails, as she is a wizard with the needle and thread! I will also build Pushpits and Pullpits from brass for the bow and stern. This is will be the first time I will have soldered brass since Secondary School, so I may be taking a few attempts with this aspect of the build. I also have a fairly limited time scale to complete this build, as my mum wants the model before she goes away on holiday for a few weeks in the middle of April. I'm not sure if I can meet this deadline, but I certainly will try. I will be posting photo's of the build soon. Cheers, Jonny
  12. I kept telling myself that I should finish a model model before starting a new one but I just couldn't resist and started on the Mediator. The model is built using plans from carlosgf and will serve as a practice run for a 1:20 scale radio controled version that I will start on after I finish my Byzantium. Sloop Mediator 1745: Dimensions: Length of Gundeck 61' 4” Length of Keel 44' 0” Breadth 21' 2” Depth in Hold 9' 9” Burthen 104 74/94 Armament: Gundeck 10 British 4-Pounder Gundeck 18 British 1/2-Pound Swivel Service history: 1745........... Purchased at Antigua 1745/03/18. First commissioned 1745/05/09. Arrived at Portsmouth. Valued at £104.15.8d for the hull and £150.15.0d for the masts, yards, furniture and stores. 1745/06/04. Taken by La Naiade 1745/06/10. Refit at a cost of £571.4.11d 1745/07/29. Foundered in Ostend harbour 1745/07/31. Wreck abandoned This build log will hopefully have some more structure then my other logs starting with the index. Index 1. Cutting the bulkheads 2. Fairing the bulkheads 3. Filler blocks 4. Making the keel 5. Planking part I (above the wales) 6. Planking part II (below the wales port) 7. Port Side Paint (with question) Lextin.
  13. Got my AVS today from the Halloween Sale with complimentary paints (except the paints didn't arrive). - Maybe been held up in customs or something. I'm not sure if MS would of placed them in the box or not, but the box had clearly been tampered with when I opened the big package. Here is another one of my babies, singing to me. Now the dilemma to start one or both!
  14. I just took advantage if the Treats13 code on model expo to get the Armed Virginia Sloop and free 8 MS paint set for $160. This is becoming very addictive. I've now got 3 kits and haven't even started one yet. Cheers Rowan
  15. Dear Friends - still awaiting my wolf plans, I leaf through the NMM sites - because I have never been languidly... There have been a lot of sloops named "Rover" - and to be correctly in detail surplus a sub - here a littele view to wikipedia: HMS Rover was a 16-gun sloop, formerly the American Cumberland. The British captured her in 1779, only to lose her temporarily to the French in 1780, before they recaptured her in 1781; she was wrecked later that year. HMS Rover II 1796 was a 16-gun ship-sloop launched in 1796, purchased 1789 and wrecked on 23 June 1798. Length: 104 ft 0 in (31.70 m) (gundeck); 80 ft 1 1⁄2 in (24.422 m) (keel) Beam: 26 ft 1 in (7.95 m) Depth of hold: 16 ft ¼ in (4.883 m) Propulsion: Sails Complement: 80 Armament: 16 x 24-pounder carronades Sail plan: full rigged ship HMS Rover III 1808 was an 18-gun Cruizer-class brig-sloop launched in 1808 and sold in 1828. Type: Brig-sloop Tons burthen: 38241⁄94 (bm) Length: 100 ft (30 m) (overall); 77 ft 3 1⁄2 in (23.559 m) (keel) Beam: 30 ft 6 in (9.30 m) Depth of hold: 12 ft 9 in (3.89 m) Sail plan: Brig Complement: 121 Armament: 2 x 6-pounder bow guns + 16 x 32-pounder carronades So I might be able to use the Wolfs plan and alter it. with your help. HMS Rover IVa 1829 was to have been an 18-gun sloop. She was ordered in 1829, but the design was revised, and she was re-ordered as the next HMS Rover. HMS Rover IVb 1832 was an 18-gun sloop launched in 1832 and broken up in 1845. HMS Rover V was a 16-gun brig launched in 1853 and sold in 1862 to the Prussian Navy.similar to HMS ‘Atalanta’; HMS ‘Camilla’; HMS ‘Hellena’; HMS ‘Jumna’; HMS ‘Mosquito’ Rover: 21. Juni 1853 Vermessung: 310 BRT/194 NRT Length CWL: 34,1 m Length o.a. 40,5 m Br: 10,3 m D: 4,05 - 4,6 m Ordonance (1st prussian): 10 × glatte 24-Pfünder (2nd prussian):10 × 8 cm L/23 Rk Krupp Rigging: Brig Speed: 12 kn HMS Rover VI was an iron screw corvette launched in 1874 and sold in 1893. Famous by the journey of Sir Rober Falcon Scott. Type: Iron screw corvette Displacement: 3,462 long tons (3,518 t) Length: 208 ft (63.4 m) pp Beam: 43 ft 6 in (13.3 m) Draught: 17 ft 6 in (5.33 m) (forward) 22 ft 7 in (6.88 m) (aft) Depth of hold: 23 ft (7.01 m) Installed power: 4,964 ihp (3,702 kW) Propulsion: Single (hoisting) screw 3-cylinder horizontal compound-expansion steam engine 10 cylindrical boilers Sail plan: Ship rig Speed: 14.5 knots (26.9 km/h; 16.7 mph) Under sail 11 knots (20 km/h; 13 mph) Range: 1,840 nmi (3,410 km; 2,120 mi) at 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph) Complement: 315 Armament: 2 × 7-inch rifled muzzle-loading guns 16 × 6.3-inch 64-pounder rifled muzzle-loading guns HMS Rover VII (N 62) was a Rainbow-class submarine launched in 1930 and sold for scrapping in 1946. Displacement: 1,763 long tons (1,791 t) surfaced 2,030 long tons (2,060 t) submerged Length: 287 ft (87 m) Beam: 30 ft (9.1 m) Draught: 16 ft (4.9 m) Propulsion: Diesel-electric 2 × Admiralty diesel engines, 4,640 hp 2 × electric motors, 1,635 hp 2 shafts Speed: 17.5 knots (20.1 mph; 32.4 km/h) surfaced 8.6 kn (9.9 mph; 15.9 km/h) submerged Complement: 53 Armament: • 8 × 21 in (530 mm) torpedo tubes (6 bow, 2 stern) with 14 reloads • 1 × 4.7 in QF Mark IX deck gun HMS Rover of 1852. Today I invested some minutes and collected all the diocuments I could find at the NMM: Listed: Object ID Description Measurements Date made ZAZ4236 lines 500 mm x 1250 mm 1831 ZAZ4237 Inboard profile 310 mm x 835 mm 1831 ZAZ4238 Lower deck plan 315 mm x 835 mm 1831 ZAZ4239 Upper deck plan 315 mm x 835 mm 1831 ZAZ4241 lines 315 mm x 1090 mm 1832 ZAZ4243 Upper deck plan 320 mm x 830 mm 1832 So we have two set of Lines und Upper Deck Plan... what may be the reason for this??? And a very fine model of the hull in high-polish - wearing the proud mumber SLR0740 classicaly scaled in 1:48 Here the description from the NMM side: Scale: 1:48. Full hull model of HMS Rover (1832), an 18 gun sloop. Model is decked and equipped. The lower hull has been painted to depict copper sheathing, whilst above the waterline it is black. The deck is painted and lined to indicate planking, with cream coloured inwales. There are fixtures and fittings: Capstan, bilge pump, chimney for galley stove, windlass on forecastle deck and two deck gratings along the centre line, around which are stored the shot. One support survives for the ships wheel, the wheel itself is missing.The bow is decorated with a half bust figurehead and painted flags on the trail boards. The aftermost gun ports are filled and on the inboard face are painted a series of flags and pendants. The model is mounted on two turned wooden pillars on the keel and supported by two metal rods around the bilge, all of which are secured to a wooden varnished baseboard with bun feet. There are a number of paper labels and inscriptions on both the model and baseboard. File:SLR0740: The "bonnet mascot" File:SLR0740: The sideview shows to us, the Master had his "flat" under the upper deck... or he had a recest balcony on the end of the battery deck??? File:SLR0740a: Very after ther is a "coloum" helmsmans place beside the wheeh (without wheel actually) or the chimney of the galley and so it is the ships cooks place? (I got no idear from the descriptions text) File:SLR0740b: During a race she wears the Number 11.. Faster Master! But I couldn't find anything about the ordonance used eightteen times on board... and other intersting questions - like: Haven't there been any lids? I've got the idea to take the Roveras my next research project... I could show the development of the Soop-Of-War by 6½ modells... Now I'm interested what your ideas are to begin with a row of sloops, Yours Christian

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