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Mercury by SimonV - Amati/Victory Models - Scale 1:64 - 99% scratchbuild


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 Hello all.

After completing Bluenose this will be my 2nd build. This time I wanted something with guns. There is a lot of very tempting kits and finally decided to go with Mercury, which attracted me even when I was buying my first kit.

The first impression is that this kit is of very high quality. Instructions are one of the best I have ever See, especially I like separate plan sheets for rigging which will be quite a job to do.

My plans:

-I like natural finish of wood as seen on NMM Greenwich models. This mean that most of the model is going to be unpainted, and I am going to change A LOT of materials provided in kit. For most of the build I am planning to use pear  wood, maple And some walnut. As Ebony I will stain pear wood. Today I received wood from Germany (2nd picture)  :).

-There will be no coopering on hull, reason is above.

-Deck planking. Laser engraved plywood deck looks good, but not good enough for me. I will most likely use maple, but have pear For backup. As this is my second build and still don't wont to overcomplicate it I am thinking to use "normal" straight Pattern for planking like on brig Syrene for example, instead of curvature shape.

-Armament. From personal aspect I like the look of guns instead of carronades on deck more. Don't ask me why, just like them :D . So I am still in research if there is any possibility that Mercury carried guns before carronades or has sister ship. This can be Seen on HMS Cruizer (guns) vs. HMS Snake (carronade) and Le Cyclope vs. Le Cygne. I have already purchased 6pdr Guns but will wait with that. If anyone could help me with this information I would very appreciate it.

 

-Sails. I am planing to do Mercury with partially set sails

Well, that's it for the moment.

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Some progress has been made.

 

Rabbet was done with proxxon milling attachment. A special template was made to achieve right curve. 

 

To achieve tight fit between ribs and keel I decided to use 10x10mm pieces of wood on ribs. 

 

Next step is making a new stem from pear wood.

 

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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 A new stem is finished. I decided for segment construction, which requires more work, but I like the look when finished  :)

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Interested to see this one develop Simon, you're off to a great start.

Cheers,
 
Jason


"Which it will be ready when it is ready!"
 
In the shipyard:

HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate)

Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700)

Finished:

HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)

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Thank you Jason for nice words  and welcome to my log  :) .

 

After quite a lot of research I was able to get original Russian plans for Brig Mercury in 1:100 scale. There are 4 A3 format sheets and I think that they were base for Chris Watton design. Also some things are different, more detailed, and I decided to go ahead with this plans  regarding details. 

 

This is going to be slow build ( have 2 daughters, 1st is 1month old, 2nd is almost 3 years) so please be patient  :rolleyes: .

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • 2 months later...

Time for update, not much, but it is something...

On stem rabbet was done with special template as guide. 2 M3 nuts were installed into the keel for future secure stand attachment. Also I decided to use reinforcement blocks between ribs to achieve more sturdy construction.

Now  it is time to start with first planking  :) .

 

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This is a beautiful model that I hope to build some day.  Look forward to watching your progress on it.  Looks like a nice start and you have some interesting ideas on changing the kit.  I hope you can find out about the long-guns!

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I decided that I will not use plywood gun port patterns. First reason is that it wasn't possible bend them vertically after several hours of soaking in water. Second reason is that I want gun ports on exact location regarding plans.All that means a little more work  B)

 

 

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hello Simon, you're off to a great start at your Mercury. I will follow along with interest!! :)

 

Kind Regards

Dimitris

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Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale

 

Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Simon:

 

I've always been intrigued by this model - looking forward to seeing it come together - with the wood replacements and extra details you're adding it should prove to be real beauty!

 

One quick question - you mentioned in your first or second post that the kit came with a scribed deck - is there no separate decking supplied with the kit? The reason I ask is that I have Corel's Berlin up on the shelf and it comes with plywood decks that the modeller is meant to scribe - this is different from the common method of supplying a thin plywood sub-deck on which individual planks are laid. If Mercury is like Berlin, I'll be interested to see how you arrange the deck planking.

 

hamilton

current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch)
 
under the bench: Admiralty Echo cross-section; MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

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Dimitris, thank you for nice words and welcome aboard :) .

 

Martin, I will try to explain my set up for stem rabbet.

First I made exact copy of stem from scrap piece of wood (in my example 5mm MDF plate). On that “copy” cutout is made on place where rabbet should be. Width of  cutout must be the same as pin guide on milling machine. After that is complete, template is attached on “real” stem. Alignment is easy, because shape of template is exact same as stem. Now I put this assembly on milling machine facing template upside down. Everything is now formerly laying on guide pin and piece of wood which serves as baseplate (pin should not be longer than depth of cutout in template). Feed rate is controlled by hand. I hope that helps.

 

Hamilton, deck has laser engraved lines . Actually it looks very authentic and with staining  with proper color will look good.

My plan is to use deck as sub-deck on which individual planks will be laid. Where I see real challenge is that planks on this model are not straight, but laid in curvature shape like on real ship. I already get some ideas from  Dr. Mike DVD Model Ship Building Secrets.

 

Thanks again to all of you for stopping by and comments :).

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Simon

 

Makes perfect sense,  I've just had one of those 'why didn't I think of that' moments, so simple when you think about it!  That's going to come in handy for my next intended build, scratch model of Marie Sophie from the Underhill plans, got to finish 'Revenge' first though. Many thanks.

 

Cheers

 

Martin

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  • 5 weeks later...
While finishing first planking, I have decided to break a routine and play a little bit with oils, waxes,... for final finish.

 

On the first picture all used materials could be seen and on second samples on wood. For all finishes 2 coats were used, always rubbed with 0000 steel wool between coats and also on final coat.

 

I tried my best to represent actual colors on picture, but nevertheless all efforts (shoot in RAW, additional flash lightning, manipulation in LightRoom) colors in real looks little different - better. 

 

Final decision will wait a little bit, because I am also trying different methods for aging. Currently I am leaning towards nr. 1. 

 

A little note to "odd" look of nr. 1. and 5. On corners bitumen mix was used for aging and I made mistake rubbing it with steel wool.

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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What a great start to this model. If you don't mind I will pull up a chair and follow this build.

Thanks, Ian

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Simon, that is an interesting ship and I like the way you worked new parts. BTW, are you sponsored by Proxxon? lol

And since I am out of power I wrapped myself in a blanket and found the cozy chair. I like option 2 and 6 as for finish.

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Ian, welcome aboard :)  .
 
@Nirvana. I am slowly preparing my workshop for future fully scratch build project (or more of them). Proxxon tools are great tools for their value. Also I modified almost every one of them and get better and more precise tool. Only sponsor is my wife who allowed me all these toys :)  .
 
Today I made better, more realistic, picture of final finish, using different light source, camera settings and post-production.
 
On sample 1. Hard wax is used to simulate caulking. Nigel described this technique here.

 

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Simon, thanks for sharing this.. I like the No 6 but it's only my opinion!!

 

Regards

Dimitris

Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale

 

Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • 4 weeks later...
First planking is finished and sanded. No wood filler was needed.

 

For correct location of gunports and "oarports" I refer to plans and not kit templates. After numerous times of measure - mark - check, correct (I hope ) locations were marked. After additional checking all gunports are within 0,5mm. 

 

Note: After comparing actual locations transferred from plans and kit templates there are quite a difference. From my opinion templates are not correct.

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Heinz  and others for all likes and comments  :) . 

 

Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Finally working with some pear wood again  :) .

 

Gunports dimensions were done to correct size with templates for vertical and horizontal dimensions. Openings were done bigger, because they are going to be planked with pear wood inside for more authentic look. 

 

Currently I am having a lot of fun planking openings  :) .

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • 1 year later...

After finishing some other projects I finally managed to get back to brig Mercury :)

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Heinz. Yes, It is good to be back  :) and hear from "old friends" here.

 

Best wishes in 2017.

Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Simon,

 

very nice build.

 

If you cut the parts of the components for the stem, you have to look to the grain of the wood. It should be always in the longitudinal direction of the part and not perpendicular as seen on your stem. Take this for the future and don't changeit on your model, after coppering not much will be seen from this.

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

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Thank you for advice Christian. Will remeber that for the future.

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Almost there ... currently working on garboard plank and keel  :) .

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Simon

 

Current build:

Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston by Vanguard Models

Mercury by Victory Models - scale 1:64 - (99% scratchbuild) - on hold

 

Finished: Bluenose by Amati - scale 1:100

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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