DougM Posted July 2, 2015 Share #1 Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) The hull is built and all 3 masts are up. Now what seems out of sorts is that the standing rigging has not been tarred black. Is correct? Next the fore sail boom and sail are rigged and in place. The parrel roller assembly has not been installed and I can not find any details on how this assembly is attached around the mast to the boom. Does anyone know how this done? Thank you in advance for your time. Doug Edited July 2, 2015 by DougM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted July 2, 2015 Share #2 Posted July 2, 2015 Hi, A picture is worth a thousand words. John DougM, mtaylor and src 3 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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amateur Posted July 2, 2015 Share #6 Posted July 2, 2015 I suggest that you rename uour post: something like Question on rigging a chebec That will attract more attention than a rather vague "need help" I van't answer your question: i have no knowledge of these ships. Btw: the model looks quite well build. Jan robin b and DougM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtaylor Posted July 2, 2015 Share #8 Posted July 2, 2015 Hi Doug, Welcome to MSW. As Robin suggested... Google Chebec and also separately Xebec. Here on MSW, there's only one that got the point of the rigging being completed: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/5126-xebec-160-scale-scratch-build-by-mij/page-3 The pictures might help you out. DougM 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DougM Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark I checked out pictures that you posted the link to. That Xebec was built with using different parral set up. Looking at "The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships" it seems that the rigging for the parrals would hold it against the mast and the go through a couple of blocks and down to a pin rail, but I am not seeing that in the plans that came with the kit. Doug Edited July 2, 2015 by DougM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 2, 2015 Share #11 Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) Ah.... forget anything with English ships. Your's appears to be the French Le Requin. I should have checked.. and yes, you're right... possibly that's the way his instructions say to do it. What do your plans show? My reference (since I don't have the ANCRE monograph) is The Art of Ship Modeling by Frolich and even that doesn't really have much detail as to parrells, etc. It does show the massive halyard blocks at top of the masts. Edited July 3, 2015 by mtaylor DougM 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted July 3, 2015 Share #12 Posted July 3, 2015 This is the parrel set-up of a ship build by a guy on a dutch forum. He knows quite a lot on these mediterranean ships, si I'm inclined to say that this is correct: a simple parrel, with the running part through a dpliced eye on the other end. no blocks at all. Jan DougM and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougM Posted July 3, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted July 3, 2015 Hi Jan Thank you for your reply. It appears that the high side of the parrals is attached to the top of the boom while the free side goes to a block on the low side of the parrals. Next There appears to be a running line from the high side through the block and what I would imagine next would be the line running down the mast to a pin rail. Now that I have an idea of what I am looking for I will see if I can find it in the plans that came with the kit. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fam Posted July 3, 2015 Share #14 Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Hi hope these picture give some indication, they are examples based on: - first three is the French xebec Le Requin (models by Frolic and Roma) - last five is my Genoan Pinco (my personal interpretation based on Le Requin rigging adapted to the Pinco rigging) On my Pinco I tried to encircle the yard and the mast with the parral, but it didn't work. Much better if the parral encircles the halyard where it is tied to the yard (the one showed is the mizzen, main and fore have double halyards but he concept is the same). The xebec is slightly different as there is no single halyard tied to the yard at its middle point, but two lines made fast to the yard ends and passing through the sheaves in the mast head. Bye Fam Edited July 3, 2015 by Fam JerseyCity Frankie and mtaylor 2 Quote Joint building: Brick de 24, 1/48, jointly with Jack Aubrey (POB from Ancre plans) Works in progress: USS Constitution Cross Section, 1:93 (POF bashed from Mamoli kit) Completed models: Santìsima Trinidad, 1/90 (POB heavily modified DeAgostini kit) Genoan Pinco, 1/50 (POB bashed from Euromodel plans - my current avatar) Viking Knarr, 1/72 (POF from Dusek kit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanasis Posted July 4, 2015 Share #15 Posted July 4, 2015 Hi. A German speaking mate may help. Thx docidle, mtaylor and Louie da fly 3 Quote https://www.naftotopos.gr/index.php/el/ There are no bad or good model makers. There are only less or more experienced. In gallery Tsernikoperama - Trechandiri Brachera - Bombarda Sabatiera -Tserniki vessel rigged as Penna - NE Aegean Sea Tserniki -Tserniki of Mykonos Island -Tserniki of Mytilene Island -Trechandiri-schooner rigging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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