HMS Vulture 1776 Cross-section by Dan Vadas - 1:48 scale from TFFM books - FINISHED

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Outstanding Danny!  You're a true craftsman! 

George took the word or my thoughts from my mouth and brain. Take your pick!

Well Danny, amazing work AGAIN mate.

Happymodelling

Greg

[Dan Vadas]

Thank you George, Greg and Robin.

 

I do have a qwere about the fittind of the Stunchions and the trenails ,ok in simplelst form a peg at each end pop one in and then what / easy in a model but how do in real life

 

 

Robin, I used the treenails for ease of fitting. In reality they were mortised the same as the tops of the stanchions, but as this isn't visible I went the easier way .

 

  Danny

[Dan Vadas]

My construction of the Well and Shot Locker differed somewhat from my previous attempt in the full model of Vulture.

 

This time I used the previously made lower deck beams as a reference, which resulted in a better fit all round.

 

First I temporarily fitted the corner posts, spot-gluing the beams above them into position on the deck clamps (no glue between posts and beams or floor). Next I cut and fitted the lower strakes of planking to stabilise the bottom ends of the posts, and also tempoarily glued braces under the beams to get the top ends square :

 

 

 

Then I removed the structure from the hull and completed the planking, removing the upper braces as they got in the way. The lids and hinges were added, and I gave the well a coat of Minwax Wipe-on Poly. Then I permanently mounted the assembly :

 

 

 

 

I left a large cut-out in the aft end of the well to show the pump tubes and mast step :

 

 

 

 

  Danny

[BANYAN]

Well worth the effort Danny, a beautiful piece of joinery that compliments the build very nicely!

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Jim Lad]

Coming along very nicely, Danny!

 

John

[druxey]

Nice looking and well-fitting well!

[Maury S]

Smart showing the cutaway to the well to show the step. 

Maury

[tlevine]

Love the cutaway view.  When you look at the pictures it is difficult to realize just how small a structure the well really is.

[Mirabell61]

My construction of the Well and Shot Locker differed somewhat from my previous attempt in the full model of Vulture.

 

This time I used the previously made lower deck beams as a reference, which resulted in a better fit all round.

 

First I temporarily fitted the corner posts, spot-gluing the beams above them into position on the deck clamps (no glue between posts and beams or floor). Next I cut and fitted the lower strakes of planking to stabilise the bottom ends of the posts, and also tempoarily glued braces under the beams to get the top ends square :

 

Well 001.jpg

 

Well 002.jpg

 

Then I removed the structure from the hull and completed the planking, removing the upper braces as they got in the way. The lids and hinges were added, and I gave the well a coat of Minwax Wipe-on Poly. Then I permanently mounted the assembly :

 

Well 003.jpg

 

Well 004.jpg

 

Well 006.jpg

 

I left a large cut-out in the aft end of the well to show the pump tubes and mast step :

 

Well 007.jpg

 

Well 008.jpg

 

Well 009.jpg

 

  Danny

 

very nice detail Danny,

that cutaway in the rear of the lower pumpwell housing

 

Nils

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Danny

I've got a question, maybe to you it's a dumb one.   You mentioned that the mask step isn't bolted to the keel,  but wedges are use to move the mast fore and aft. Is it only on the main mask or all of them? Also is this practice used on all English ships, no matter what type  etc?

As I've said before, your pictorial log teachers us, or me a hell of a lot! 

Your workmanship is outstanding. 

Havagooday mate and happyozzieday

Greg

[michael mott]

Beautiful work on the mast step and small but important details.

 

Michael

[Dan Vadas]

Thanks all for the comments and Likes .

 

I've got a question, maybe to you it's a dumb one.   You mentioned that the mask step isn't bolted to the keel,  but wedges are use to move the mast fore and aft. Is it only on the main mask or all of them? Also is this practice used on all English ships, no matter what type  etc?

 

 

First off, it's not a dumb question at all - there's no such thing on this site .

 

In answer, Vulture's Main Mast Step is the only one moveable as the positions of the Fore and Mizzen Mast make them impossible to adjust. However many other ships had one or both of them moveable depending on the shape of the frame timbers surrounding them. Some ships had the Mizzen Step on another deck altogether.

 

  Danny

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Thanks Danny for your polite and informative answer. It helps a lot mate.

Havagooday

Greg

[Dan Vadas]

A pic I forgot to add in the last update - the Limber Boards, which cover the limber channels to stop them from getting blocked with ballast etc :

 

 

Now the well is finished it's time to do the lower deck framing, starting with the Hanging Knees. There are only 6 to make for each deck. These need to be individually shaped to fit the internal timbers, even in this relatively straight section of the hull :

 

 

 

The Lodging Knees are of varying shapes and sizes. This is the only one that would be the same as in the rest of the ship :

 

 

 

At the Deadflat, which is one frame aft of the forward part of this model, is a pair of Opposed Lodging Knees. The hanging knees in the forward part of the ship are forward of the beams, whilst those in the after part of the ship are behind them. Therefore the need for a transition from fore to aft with the lodging knees. Because of the area I'm using for the cross-section I can only show half of the forward (upper) knee :

 

 

Next come the Carlings, the longitudinal framing timbers. These are of various widths, depending on their functions. The "standard" ones are 6" wide, those alongside the hatches are 7 1/2". I've notched all the carlings for the Ledges, some of which are already fitted :

 

 

 

Continued in next post .....

[Dan Vadas]

..... continued.

 

An interesting little piece of "iron" work is a pair of Iron Knees, used to brace the Beam Arms. The pics should be self-explanatory :

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Danny

[druxey]

After the full model, you should be able to do the deck framing in your sleep, Dan! Looking good.

[GLakie]

Love all the little details Danny!    You're a God among us all!! 

[BANYAN]

Great attention to detail Danny - are you setting yourself any challenges with this minor build?

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited February 2, 2016 by BANYAN

[albert]

Great work, Danny.

[Maury S]

Danny,

Great work.  It took me a year to get this far on my Echo Section, and it's not as tidy as yours!

Maury

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

After the full model, you should be able to do the deck framing in your sleep, Dan! Looking good.

Great work, Danny.

 

I agree with them, but it's up to your usual extremely high standard that a master shipwright could achieve. Way beyond me or many others, if I may be so bold.

Havagooday mate

Greg

[cookster]

HI Danny, I followed your Vulture build, although I missed the actual completion and had to go back and get caught up. She turned out beautiful!

 

I will now follow your cross section.  Your workmanship is outstanding, and I appreciate the way you show "how you did something", not just what you did.

Edited February 11, 2016 by cookster

[Dan Vadas]

Thank you Druxey, George, Pat, Albert, Maury, Greg and Wes (welcome back) .

 

are you setting yourself any challenges with this minor build?

 

 

Pat, I'm taking far more time and effort in getting every small piece spot-on, as it's a lot more visible than in the full model. I'm also adding a bit more detail.

 

I've made up one of the Chain Pump Sprockets - the other one will be covered by the Cistern Hood and therefore invisible. The bars are silver-soldered into the PE wheels :

 

 

 

I've also made up three lengths of the Chain, again using pieces from the PE set. The longer one will fit over the sprocket at the top, and the two shorter lengths fit into two cut-outs I've made into the lower ends of the pump tubes :

 

 

 

 

  Danny

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Danny 

I've got another question, I'm not calling it dumb this time. Lol. The pump tubes has the chain going through it. Did you open the end of the tube only to show us the chain, or is it the way it should be?

Again  great craftsmanship in every details. 

Havagoodone and a "colddy" for me.

Greg 

[Jim Lad]

More absolutely first class work, Danny!

 

John

[Dan Vadas]

Thanks Greg and John.

 

Did you open the end of the tube only to show us the chain, or is it the way it should be?

 

 

They're open to show the chain Greg. See pics below.

 

I'm half wondering whether I should paint the cuts red to show that they are indeed a cut-away (and the same with the cut-outs in the aft end of the well, also any future cut-aways). Thoughts anybody?

 

I've temporarily fitted the four chain pump tubes to make sure I have all the angles etc correct. They fit quite a bit better than the full model's tubes . :

 

 

 

The outer tubes needed a small cutout in the mast partner to get the distance between the tops correct. I didn't do this on the full model and had a few issues later on. TFFM doesn't specify this :

 

 

  Danny

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Thanks  Danny. 

Just maybe, do a more rough cut so it will be obvious to other people.  Your neatness is somtimes too neat, if you know what I  mean.?

Greg 

[druxey]

The red paint on the cutaway makes it clear that it is, in fact, a cutaway. I think your idea of doing this a good one, Dan.

[dvm27]

Sweet work Danny! I note that my cross-sections seem to be somewhat better than the full version.Perhaps you've upped your game similarly as a result of completing your fully framed model.

[RichardG]

Very good Dan nice touch , paint them No I feel as an unpainted model painting them would confuse best left as is , robin

 

 

The red paint on the cutaway makes it clear that it is, in fact, a cutaway. I think your idea of doing this a good one, Dan.

 

I like both suggestions  .

 

However, maybe the red would be too much (although it is a standard way of indicating a cutaway). Perhaps a light brown, enough to highlight the edge but not too distracting.

 

Whatever you do this is a wonderful example of a cross-section.

 

Richard.