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Just received this new book Friday on the Mary Rose. I had pre-ordered mine just a year ago now. Glade that I did. I have all of the Trust books and any other books on the Mary Rose,and this new book is a great addition to my collection and more important to my building of the Caldercraft/Jotika 1/80 Mary Rose kit.

 

It is soft cover paperback  from the Naval Institute Press. around $40.00 with shipping.

 

It covers the history of the Mary Rose and has added details that all of the previuos books have not covered. The Caldercraft kit has just two upper decks above the main gun deck,but this book has drawings showing the Mary Rose in several points in its life with 4 decks above the main gun deck with high forecastle and sterncastle's.

 

It makes it look like it could capsize in any turn.

 

They also include details of the hull and interior including the different guns and rigging.

 

I highly recommend this book to Mary Rose builders and those who like the Mary Rose.

 

I would have photographed the book and details to show here,but do not know if I would get into copyright problems.

 

I do plan to finish my Mary Rose from Jotika as it is,but my 1/48 clone of this kit will be made to show the additional upper decks as it is shown in this new book.

 

Keith

 

 

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Keith,

Generally, "fair use" in copyright means you can so the cover and some of the content in a review.   As long as you're not posting the whole thing, there shouldn't be a problem.

Mark
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It is on my wish list.

 

 

4 decks above the main gun deck with high forecastle and sterncastle's

 

When looking at Cog models  ( which I thick of as an immediate ancestor of Mary Rose )

the construction of the castles brought a concept to mind:  the hull up to the main or upper deck (depending on ship size) was built by shipwrights.  the castles were added on by the craftsmen who built land based castles and other buildings.  The general lack of curves and the general components do not look like a shipwright's work.   Practically, I don't think they needed the particular skills of a shipwright.  Another thought,  if a merchant ship was drafted as a warship when needed, the castles could be a temporary addition.

NRG member 45 years

 

Current:  

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner -  framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner -  timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835  ship - timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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It is on my wish list.

 

When looking at Cog models  ( which I thick of as an immediate ancestor of Mary Rose )

the construction of the castles brought a concept to mind:  the hull up to the main or upper deck (depending on ship size) was built by shipwrights.  the castles were added on by the craftsmen who built land based castles and other buildings.  The general lack of curves and the general components do not look like a shipwright's work.   Practically, I don't think they needed the particular skills of a shipwright.  Another thought,  if a merchant ship was drafted as a warship when needed, the castles could be a temporary addition.

 

Even if it the castles were built by the shipwrights on a military purpose vessel, they were probably of much lighter construction. The recently discovered wreck of the Mars, sunk in 1564 has a relatively preserved stern castle. She was a huge military-purpose vessel and although she was more modern, primarily an artillery ship, she still carried a castle that was built with a much lighter internal construction than the lower hull and clad with thin clinker planking as opposed to the thick carvel hull planking. Not sure how much that can be interpolated backwards in time, as Mars was a big step away from ships designed for primarily boarding towards ships designed for artillery duels, but I figure previous shipwrights would have noticed if the carracks starts flipping every other turn.

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I hadn't head of the Mars discovery. This is very exciting! I can see the mizzen mast, the capstan, some of the chains, as well as a beautifully preserved after part of the hull. Arched gunports on the upper gundeck, a couple of rubbing strakes  . . . oh, glory!

 

Steven

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