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SMS Emden by RGL - FINISHED - Revell - 1/350 - Complete


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My third build will be the SMS Emden. It has a history for us Aussies I suppose.  I won't go into the history as there is the whole of the internet for that.

 

Revell brought out a twin kit recently which will be good if I stuff up something, as I don't intend on building both it and the Dresden. There are a lot of open source builds on the net for this kit, most of which seem to be strait out of the box.

 

I managed to purchase the last set of draughts in 1/200 on the internet for Peter Huff's 1995 publication. I had a look at the Kagero book and yet again, their research leaves a bit to be desired, as the even the photos don't match.  

 

The kit will need a LOT of bashing. Thus more internet shopping for bits and pieces.  Heaps of work, but that's the joy of it.

 

I got the Eduard Emden photo etch set for a start. A lot of the sprues look like they have been put in  an oven as they just look blurry with very little detail. There will be very little of the original kit used but the hull is nice.

 

I'm thinking six or more months, given my Varyag has a lot more detail but also a lot more commercially available extras. This era is not well represented for after market.

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I have never seen a completed kit of the Emden this should very interesting,  Mind if I pull up a chair?

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Looking forward to watching another of your builds of this era Greg.  This era is very under-represented not only on this forum, but in the modeling world in general, at least the portion of it that I've been exposed to!

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There are some spectacular ones in 1/100 but nearly every 1/350 is straight from the box. Challenge set as I intend on learning from my mistakes in the Varyag. None of the fantastic builds by our contributors on this forum are open to the Internet (which I like) as we have some true artists here. In the plastic realm, Dafi is a master.

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And it starts. there is an imprint of the hull of 1995, so a 20 year old mold. The plastic is very soft so cuts well but does not sand well. I have cut out all the first deck holes for the 10.5cm and 5cm guns as well as the little doors amidships. The upper deck 10.5cm gun amidship is show on the draughts as requires the hull to be reduced.

 

The bow and stern guns have this ridiculous fake barrel attached to the hull which I have cut off and will place the guns internally.

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I have drilled some .02mm holes for the steps on the side of the hull before joining the hull. I will have to make up some anchor points for the prop guard, later. The hull itself is fairly self explanatory. The North Star steps have a little template to make sure everything lines up. There is no reference to the steps in the Revell plans.

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Joining up the hull is somewhat of a nightmare. As the hull homes in 4 pieces, as Revell have made one hul for both then some small pieces for the shafts between the Emden and Dresden kits. They do not line up. At all. I would feel somewhat less than adequate if every other build I had found on the internet did not have the same problem. Its seriously out of kilter.

 

I have braced the interior of the hull with offcut pieces of wood, so as the hull is not so laterally flexible and the joins won't break, as well as allowing for the two brass rods which i will use as stands as well as a painting brace. It also allows me to have a stable internal platform for the under deck guns which I will construct compartments for in styrene.I have run them along the centreline as these compartments will not be attached to the side of the hull because they would just snap off when I have to apply the deck.

 

As the plastic is so soft, sanding marks up the hull very easily. I masked up the joins so I could have attempt one at the putty then a quick light coat of primer to see my sins then attempt 2.

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Looks very interesting its amazing the amount of detail we can put into our 1/350 scale boats :dancetl6:

 

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Have you tried the likes of Master, Flyhawk, Pontos etc?

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I just keep searching  Ebay for bits and pieces sometimes popping in different search words or even just - Boats 1 350 scale, worth a try ;)

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Continuing on with the inside of the hull, I know it looks messy but it's very sturdy and it will be invisible forever. The plans show how there is a remarkable lack of compartmentalization which means I will have to add a fair bit of detail to the inside behind the guns. 

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next are the Bow chaser gun openings. The kit has this silly little representation on a barrel. It took me a fair while to just figure out to put a bit of car behind the triangle at the front and create the angle into the hull with putty. That way the barrel can sit flush within the lines of he ship. Bit of tidy up to do and it will be fine, as there will also be the hatches folded down.

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Hi Greg, another nice build you have going here.  I am almost finished my Endeavour, so will get onto my Vampire (1:350) soon - be watching this log for hints and tips for plastic models :)

 

So, I assume the Sydney next in a nice little diorama?

 

cheers

 

Pat

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If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Greg,

 

I found a Complect Zip resin 1/350 102mm gun at Plastic-hobby.com that might come close to what you are looking for.

 

Here is the link if you want to check them out.

 

http://plastic-hobby.com/product/1-350-102-mm-deck-gun-mount-of-the-obukhov-plant-12-ks:35632/

 

Steve

Current Build: Merit 1/48 Early Eco 80' PT Boat and Imai 1/50 Catalan Ship

Finished:

Revell 1/196 USS Constitution (My oldest son's school project)
Revell 1/72 Hanse Kogge
Revell 1/50 Viking Ship
Revell 1/72 U-Boat
Zvezda 1/72 English Medieval Ship Thomas

Revell 1/90 The Nina

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OK, as promised, it's taken several hours, but my first attempt at the 10.5cm guns. I will make 4 on this pedestal to go below decks as you won't see the bottom bits. I think they will come up OK when painted 9compared to the kit ones) and put in at a later date. Now I know what to do i will be a fair bit quicker. Then there are four 5cm guns to fabricate. I will leave the above decks ones until I'm almost finished.

 

 

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Nice work Greg, they look good; well worth the effort.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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OK, as promised, it's taken several hours, but my first attempt at the 10.5cm guns. I will make 4 on this pedestal to go below decks as you won't see the bottom bits. I think they will come up OK when painted 9compared to the kit ones) and put in at a later date. Now I know what to do i will be a fair bit quicker. Then there are four 5cm guns to fabricate. I will leave the above decks ones until I'm almost finished.

Very nice work,  look at the difference between the plastic one and the one you have detailed :)

 

OC

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I tried to add a bit more detail to the 105mm guns for the remaining 3. There will be below decks to they are acceptable. I just need to paint them up now. I utalised a pedestal from a set of Complect Zip guns which I misordered. When I do the deck guns I will use the kit supplied pedestals which I will bash more than Mike Tyson would.

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The next challenge is the 52mm chaser guns. These are to scale so it shows how much the kit ones are out. Not perfect yet but again they are beneath deck. I have not added a pedestal as they will be able to be put into the hull via the openings once most of it is complete and I will build a little interior ledge on the inside. I will put a bit more effort into the 4 that go onto the deck itself. These really are tiny.

 

I used the 47mm resin guns from the Varyag kit, and 1/700 150mm barrels as well as various offcuts from the photo etch spares box to make up the details. The sighting telescope was somewhat challenging.

 

As they will be interior, if one side looks crap I can face it inboard.

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